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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
August 01 2010 03:52 GMT
#381
For about 100 USD, you can get either the GTS 250 or the Radeon 5770. Either one would be MORE than enough to play on high even at 1920x1200.

btw, fan of Jin Yong novels?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 03:53:06
August 01 2010 03:52 GMT
#382
what resolution? can't give a recommendation without that information

5770 costs way more than $100, you'd also need a new PSU to go with that
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 01 2010 04:26 GMT
#383
What system are you considering that has those parts listed? If you're going to have to add in a graphics card, and probably replace the PSU, and maybe even replace the CPU...you might as well get something that's ready to go in the first place.

I haven't really checked the prices of configured and prebuilt systems, but this doesn't look too overpriced for what's in it: Athlon II X4 630, HD 5670, 4 GB DDR3, 500 GB 7200 rpm, 600W supply (according to the label), Win7 Home Premium 64-bit, keyboard, mouse. I won't straight-up recommend it for your purposes though.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 04:58:22
August 01 2010 04:57 GMT
#384
On August 01 2010 06:50 FragKrag wrote:
it's not an AM3 motherboard

it's an AM2 motherboard

Oh well if he has an Athlon II he can get a phenom II. That was the idea. Didn't look at his motherboard, just his Cpu.

edit: took a look at his second post nvm
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 05:19:09
August 01 2010 04:57 GMT
#385
On August 01 2010 11:22 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2010 10:34 johanngrunt wrote:
On August 01 2010 08:33 Condor Hero wrote:
would a computer with these specifications be able to run sc2 on ultra?

Processor - Intel Pentium E5400(2.7GHz)
Memory - 4GB DDR2
Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce 7050 Integrated Graphics
Power Supply - 250W

or do i need to upgrade the graphics card or something?


In addition to what FragKrag said, might want to beef up the PSU as well when adding a graphics card.


can you recommend a graphics card?
im not so obsessed with playing on ultra as much as playing at least on high without any lag during big battles

how about an ati hd 4650 or 4670?
im a lot more concerned about lag and fps than ultra settings over just high settings
please let me know, im leaning towards buying one from ibuypower

also i think i need a new monitor so im not sure what resolution
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 01 2010 05:12 GMT
#386
Read all of the posts
What's your resolution
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 01 2010 05:20 GMT
#387
On August 01 2010 14:12 KOFgokuon wrote:
Read all of the posts
What's your resolution

sorry i edited my post
s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
August 01 2010 07:28 GMT
#388
Question:
I got a new desktop (i7 quadcore, windows 7, 8gb ram DELL desktop)
currently, really low end graphics card so i bought a new one a couple days ago:
Radeon HD4870. I'm having trouble installing it I'm not even sure if I can even use it right now cause here's my problem:
the hd4870 has 2 ports for molex adapters, but my power supply only has one. The graphics card came with 2 spare adapters but i don't see any way to connect the spare adapter from the card to the power supply. So my question is:
Can I not use this graphics card right now?
a. If so, is there another high end card i could get that could run on one molex adapter?
b. should i get a new power supply? if so, what kind do i buy (link me to one)?

P.S. If someone can help me with this, please PM me so I know someone responded to this. Thankyou
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 01 2010 07:46 GMT
#389
uh I think you have it confused. Here is how it works.

The HD 4870 requires 2 Six pin connectors.

The GPU came with two 2 molex to 1 six pin connectors. You connect the two molex to the six pin and then the six pin to the graphics card along with the six pin on your power supply.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 01 2010 08:01 GMT
#390
after doing some research i have a few questions:

1. how big a difference is there between dual core and quad core?
(specifically the AMD Athlon II X2 240(2.8GHz) and the AMD Athlon II X4 630(2.8GHz))

2. as i understand it, the ATI hd 5670 is superior to the GT240 but how big a difference is there with the memory difference?
(specifically between the ATI Radeon HD 5670 512MB and
NVIDIA GeForce GT240 1GB graphics cards)
in other words, if the 5670 is superior to the 240 other things equal does the memory difference matter a lot?

thanks for your help, still trying to learn all i can
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 01 2010 08:02 GMT
#391
So, just as a confirmation, will GTX460 786mb max ultra on 1920x1080?
Rillanon.au
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 01 2010 08:06 GMT
#392
1. Depends on what you are doing. For SC2 there might be a medium/small sized difference, but if you do encoding or anything heavily multithreaded, you'll see roughly twice the performance with a quadcore processor. I wouldn't buy a dual core at the moment.

2. The HD 5670 is indeed superior to the GT 240. In general, it is fairly significant if I remember correctly. Make sure when you buy the GT 240 that you get the 512MB GDDR5 version. The 1GB GDDR3 version is inferior to the 512MB GDDR5 version. The size of the memory doesn't matter because the GDDR5 is twice as fast as the GDDR3.

The Size of the memory only matters when you start to apply AA, do triple buffering, or go to high resolutions.

haduken: I don't see a problem with it. If you really are concerned, get the 1GB.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 01 2010 09:28 GMT
#393
1GB is like a $100 AUD more
Rillanon.au
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
August 01 2010 09:46 GMT
#394
On August 01 2010 18:28 haduken wrote:
1GB is like a $100 AUD more



Wow, that's really excessive, there's only supposed to be a 30 USD price delta.

must be because of demand?

but for 1920x1200. 768 MB should work. only when it gets to 2560X1600 do you need the 1GB frame buffer.
check out hardwarecanucks review.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51691 Posts
August 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#395
nah prices of computer hardware are overpriced by like 15% in australia (compared to prices in america)
Commentator
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
August 01 2010 11:07 GMT
#396
Same here in Hong Kong T.T

Weird.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 01 2010 12:13 GMT
#397
Wholesale buy price is like $250ish, add on top the profit and shipping yeah it sucks.

Thank god for stores like MSY.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 01 2010 12:19 GMT
#398
On August 01 2010 20:07 johanngrunt wrote:
Same here in Hong Kong T.T

Weird.


It's not weird at all. The problem is that countries with a small market have no bargaining leverage on the big suppliers.

USA is a mature market with good customer base and the run rates means that companies like newegg can sell to the mass and still make money on tiny margins. They probably sell their bundles at a loss to attract customers.

I wouldn't be surprised if HK market is monopolized by one or two suppliers and the retailers are dumped with prices.


Rillanon.au
krynis
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada43 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 16:30:31
August 01 2010 16:27 GMT
#399
On August 01 2010 10:01 FragKrag wrote:
krynis: A better upgrade would just to buy a motherboard and save the money for a better setup. That setup shouldn't have any problem with high. I don't see any reason to upgrade it and gain minimal performance increases..


I'd like to remind you that while SC2 is a big part of my gaming life right now I do play a lot of other more demanding games, also the cpu upgrade is not minimal at all, my current has ZERO L3 cache and the one I linked has 8mb thats actually pretty big, also while it wont help with SC2 it also has hyperthreading which is very nice in games/programs that support it, the overall speed is also faster, especially when you take the Turbo mode into accout, it automaticly OCs the cores depending on which ones are being used, higher over clock the less the other cores are used. (yay 2 core in sc2)
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 01 2010 16:32 GMT
#400
remind? more like inform

keep in mind we're mostly building towards sc2 specs. you probably should have mentioned this was for more than sc2 in your original post if you didn't want flak on the overspec'd new pc you're building.
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