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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 28 2010 20:15 GMT
#261
Half the price? You can get an i7 930 for $200 and a $200 1366 mobo. 1090T is $300 and a decent mobo for $150.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19203 Posts
July 28 2010 20:17 GMT
#262
On July 29 2010 05:05 darkponcho wrote:
Hey everyone,

Almost done with my setup, and I found I could get a AMD 1055T for an extra $20 over the AMD 965BE, do you think it's worth it? I got a GTX 470. Also, should I upgrade my motherboard if I'm going to the 1055T?

Motherboard: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342511
^This motherboard is 9.99 with the either the AMD 1055t or AMD 965BE, so I save $82.

I can get any of these motherboards for $40 off the listed price when combined with 1055t or 965BE:
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?N=4294966996 4294963446 4294957508&sht=Any&prt=NewProduct&

TLDR: 1055t over 965BE for $20 more? Better motherboard (no crossfire planned)?


I'd go with the 1055T. It's better enough to justify the $20. I have an M4A88TD EVO (which you can get new from Newegg for $10 less) with a 1090T, and it's quite a nice combo. In fact, Newegg has a combo of 1055T+M4A88TD EVO for $295 (click). Also, your $9.99 mobo is out of stock.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19203 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 20:20:55
July 28 2010 20:20 GMT
#263
On July 29 2010 05:15 R04R wrote:
Half the price? You can get an i7 930 for $200 and a $200 1366 mobo. 1090T is $300 and a decent mobo for $150.

The i7 930 is 2.8GHz at $290. You'll need to OC a lot (4 cores vs 1090T's 6) to get better performance, which means powerful cooling. You'll need a bigger case for the retarded number of fans and heatsinks or liquid cooling system you'll need to match performance. Thus, much more expensive.
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 20:27:45
July 28 2010 20:23 GMT
#264
It's not out of stock at his microcenter (Virginia). He also gets $40 off so it's still cheaper at microcenter. (with no waiting for shipping)

i7 930 for $200
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19203 Posts
July 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#265
Oh well, was out of stock on the site.

Anyway, it's your choice. I've had bad experiences with Intel over the years so I'm biased towards AMD anyways.

That having been said, Phenom II X6 > i7.
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darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
July 28 2010 20:33 GMT
#266
On July 29 2010 05:23 R04R wrote:
It's not out of stock at his microcenter (Virginia). He also gets $40 off so it's still cheaper at microcenter. (with no waiting for shipping)

i7 930 for $200
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0331303


holy shit thx r04r, now i'm tempted to go intel... and shell out extra money for the mobo. ><
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
July 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#267
I would recommend against it. The i7 930 is a great CPU, but you're just wasting your money if you want it for just the fact that it is $200.

The Phenom II X4 955/965 sells for less and provides about the same performance in just about every title. The Phenom II X6 is a great CPU for multithreaded work, but again if you aren't going to fully use the 6 cores, you end up getting a weaker CPU.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Art.FeeL
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1163 Posts
July 28 2010 20:50 GMT
#268
On July 29 2010 05:41 FragKrag wrote:
I would recommend against it. The i7 930 is a great CPU, but you're just wasting your money if you want it for just the fact that it is $200.

The Phenom II X4 955/965 sells for less and provides about the same performance in just about every title. The Phenom II X6 is a great CPU for multithreaded work, but again if you aren't going to fully use the 6 cores, you end up getting a weaker CPU.


I read some reviews and in the majority of them it was said that Phenom is great but rarely any software uses 6 cores so its 2 more cores are pretty much useless. They all recommend i7 series
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
July 28 2010 20:52 GMT
#269
Does anyone own a sparkle or a palit video card? Any opinions on those companies vs EVGA/MSI/companies that I've actually heard of? newegg is sold out of the EVGA and MSI gtx 460's and bing cash back is ending awfully soon ><

5850 prices seem to be dropping though, plus there's a gtx 470 for $280 right now which is mighty tempting
AHHHH CHOICES
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 28 2010 21:00 GMT
#270
Are you trying to get Bing cashback on Newegg? I just tried to log on to see if it was available, with no luck. Then I found this.
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
July 28 2010 21:00 GMT
#271
On July 29 2010 05:52 KOFgokuon wrote:
Does anyone own a sparkle or a palit video card? Any opinions on those companies vs EVGA/MSI/companies that I've actually heard of? newegg is sold out of the EVGA and MSI gtx 460's and bing cash back is ending awfully soon ><

5850 prices seem to be dropping though, plus there's a gtx 470 for $280 right now which is mighty tempting
AHHHH CHOICES


I think newegg cashback ended like an hour ago ><
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
July 28 2010 21:11 GMT
#272
I know Palit had been a fairly consistent Nvidia partner, but I'm not sure about their quality since a week ago there was some fuss about their cooler being too loud or not cooling enough.

Sparkle on the other hand I have never heard much about. They do offer a lifetime warranty on the reference 1GB though, so I would go with them.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
July 28 2010 21:41 GMT
#273
Hi guys.

I wanna get a new comp that runs SC2 really smoothly and can play some games that the future might hold. My budget is around 800€ so its not very high. I thought about building it myself from parts but I really don't have the patience. I found a comp with these specs online though and I wonder if it's worth the 800€ or if anyone has any critisizm.


# Silver Power SP-SS500 500W PSU
# ASUS P7H55-M PRO, H55, Socket-1156
# Intel Core™ i3 Dual Processor i3-540
# Gainward GeForce GTS250 1GB PhysX CUDA
# Lite-On DVD+RW burner IHAS124-19
# USB2 3.5"
# Corsair Value S. DDR3 1333MHz 2GB CL9
# Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA2
# Microsoft® OEM Wired Desktop 400 MP
# Creative SBS A40
# Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 28 2010 21:52 GMT
#274
You can get better parts if you build it yourself obviously, but that looks decent. If you built it yourself, you could have 2gb more ram, 1tb hard drive, and a better graphics card (5770 or so)
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14910 Posts
July 28 2010 21:55 GMT
#275
On July 29 2010 06:00 Myrmidon wrote:
Are you trying to get Bing cashback on Newegg? I just tried to log on to see if it was available, with no luck. Then I found this.


wtf that lasted like a day
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
July 28 2010 22:14 GMT
#276
From what I've read, Palit and Sparkle (FYI, Sparkle is a reference design) run pretty hot and loud if you try to overclock them too much (>800 core). So if you're planning to overclock, I'd just wait for a EVGA/Gigabyte/MSI one to be available. Also, keep in mind that most of the benchmarks you can find on online reviews are for Palit Platinum version--which Newegg doesn't have yet (I think).
Genovi
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden388 Posts
July 28 2010 22:24 GMT
#277
On July 29 2010 06:52 R04R wrote:
You can get better parts if you build it yourself obviously, but that looks decent. If you built it yourself, you could have 2gb more ram, 1tb hard drive, and a better graphics card (5770 or so)


I had a look at their site and I can easily get the 5770 for just a little bit more. What worries me is the RAM 2 gb sound a bit low. Do i need DDR3?
We fucking lost team - RTZ
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
July 28 2010 23:08 GMT
#278
On July 29 2010 07:14 gchan wrote:
From what I've read, Palit and Sparkle (FYI, Sparkle is a reference design) run pretty hot and loud if you try to overclock them too much (>800 core). So if you're planning to overclock, I'd just wait for a EVGA/Gigabyte/MSI one to be available. Also, keep in mind that most of the benchmarks you can find on online reviews are for Palit Platinum version--which Newegg doesn't have yet (I think).


hm? the Sparkle card uses the reference design
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TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
July 28 2010 23:10 GMT
#279
I am planning on buying a new computer. So I'll ask for some advice from the nice folks at TL :D.
Answers to questions in OP:
My budget is 800 dollars.
I'm not sure about this question. I'm not good with technology :/
I'm probably going to use it for the internet and gaming only.
I won't upgrade. This computer should be only temporary for me.
I plan to build it ASAP of course
I will most likely not overclock it.
I don't need an OS.
I'm not sure what a GPU is, so I cant' answer this question.
I can buy it from anywhere as long as it follows my budget.

Any advice would be appreciated Thanks in advance.
coLCruncher fighting!
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 23:52:58
July 28 2010 23:45 GMT
#280
On July 29 2010 08:10 TitleRug wrote:
I am planning on buying a new computer. So I'll ask for some advice from the nice folks at TL :D.
Answers to questions in OP:
My budget is 800 dollars.
I'm not sure about this question. I'm not good with technology :/
I'm probably going to use it for the internet and gaming only.
I won't upgrade. This computer should be only temporary for me.
I plan to build it ASAP of course
I will most likely not overclock it.
I don't need an OS.
I'm not sure what a GPU is, so I cant' answer this question.
I can buy it from anywhere as long as it follows my budget.

Any advice would be appreciated Thanks in advance.


Here's what I got:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhPPlAuzvAQZdGItMmFWQV90UW9FVVFWWUhlbHdqZFE&hl=en&authkey=COzKp78D

The total actually came to be ~800 dollars, but that's after Mail-in rebates and bing cashback, assuming it goes through. Everything except for rows 2, and 5-7 are from newegg. 5-6 are from a microcenter, and I highly encourage you take advantage of their amd cpu+mobo offer if you have one near you. I also highly recommend you taking advantage of the SC2+thermaltake case bundle offer on newegg. 7 is for a set of headphones, which I needed. 2 was just because there was a hdmi cable for 0.99 shipped....

I included the promo codes I used, I think 1-2 expired today, but rest should be good till july 31. Same with the mail-in rebates. Also there's no more bing cash back on newegg, so that's about +$100, but you could always downgrade the graphics card and save 100 dollars. IMO this is an excellent system that I got for the price I did.

Following the spreadsheet, you'll get the comp + 1 hdmi cable, 1 copy of sc2, 1 copy of sc2 trial key, and 1 pair of Ultimate Ear 700 earbuds lol.

BTW like every single newegg customer support rep I talked to had an American first name and Asian last name. Outsourcing!

EDIT- damn, I had hyperlinks so you could click the item and it'd take you to product page, but those got lost when I uploaded it to google. Lemme know if you want the original spreadsheet :D

EDIT2- Also big thanks to everyone who helped me pick parts, I actually upgraded several of the parts that you suggested, r04r, because bing cashback and promos and mail in rebates saved me a lot more than I expected.
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