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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
On July 24 2013 02:00 Rachnar wrote: 4ghz is a bad oc, basicly every cpu can reach 4.4 at the very least yea...just mine cant  well it can but who would oc 4.4 at 1.38vc? | ||
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rolando
United States82 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128592 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693 price is the same. I'll be doing some overclocking but this is my first build so I'm not going to be overclocking like crazy. Help choosing the board willbe greatly appreciated. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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rolando
United States82 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
On July 24 2013 05:23 rolando wrote: The gigabyte has 2 bioss' which seems to be the only big difference in my eyes. Is this nice to have when overclocking? You can usually (always?) reset the BIOS on the motherboard and you're only going to be changing a small number of things (often singular), so keeping track of what worked vs what didn't is pretty straight-forward. | ||
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Madoga
Netherlands471 Posts
- The gigabyte has a superior VRM (8 true phases vs 4 and the gigabyte uses better components). The gigabyte allso uses slightly more copper in the pcb for better heat dissipation. If you're not overclocking above ~4.5ghz you probably wont notice a real difference beside the gigabyte running slightly cooler. - The msi uses ALC 1150 and the gigabyte alc898. ALC1150 has superior two channel audio(Headphone jack) but ALC898 has superior audio on all other channels. The differences are really small and both are fine for 99.99999% of the people. - The msi has a NIC with some gimmick features you most likely wont ever use. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
People who buy these boards a bit more informed than your odd consumer and for people who know their NICs, Intel and Broadcom should still be the gold standards. Gigabyte chose Intel for the GA-Z87X-UD3H probably because its extremely well supported, has great performance and its a differentiating feature that isn't completely stupid. Personally, I can't think of any reason to choose the MSI board over the Gigabyte. Onboard audio is still onboard audio and you can get better results with a $20 PCIe sound card. | ||
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Big Monkey
United Kingdom473 Posts
Radeon x1600/1650 2x sata II 250gb each Intel pendium 2.66 Ghz 3.25gb of Ram 1x NEC DVD_RW ND-3550 Creative SB X-FI sound card My current resolution is 1280x960 tho it would be nice to hook it up to the 46 inch led hd tv now and again. I dont know what the motherboard is but its 8 years old so lets assume its also defunct and needs replacing. I have been looking at replacing this with this proposed build: i would expect this to last me up to 4 years i would of thought AMD Bulldozer FX 4130 Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 4.0Ghz 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM AMD / ATi HD 6450 Graphics Card With 2GB Dedicated DDR3 Graphics Memory 1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive CD / DVD-RW Optical Disc Drive MSI 760GM-P21-(FX) uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here) 500W Quiet Power Supply featuring large 120mm fan High Quality Vantage BLUE Desktop PC Gaming Case Fast Ethernet 10 / 100 LAN Port 6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back PLUS Additional 2 Ports On Top of Case 8 Channel HD Audio 4 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports 1 X PCI Express X16 Slot 1 X PCI Express X1 Slot 1 X PCI Slot 2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse) 1 X VGA Port 1 X DVI Port 1 x HDMI Port (With Audio) Dual Monitor Support Includes UK Mains Power Cable Includes All Relevant Driver Discs & Manuals I know nothing about computers but but i have managed to find out is the graphics card looks cheap spec. My budget is about £400 and wondering should I upgrade the components on my current build and work with case and fans ive got? Go for the proposed build and upgrade the graphics card. Totally start from scratch and enlist a friend or recommended pc builder to help me build a new spec. My proposed sources to get parts from would be ebuyer, ebay and amazon. I am in the Uk Also my budget doesnt include operating system. I currently use XP but planning on buying windows 7 as ive tried 8 on a laptop and cant get on with it. Many thanks in advance | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:28 Big Monkey wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ive been playing eve online now for a number of years and 8 years ago i bought a custom built pc with these main componenets i can find out: Radeon x1600/1650 2x sata II 250gb each Intel pendium 2.66 Ghz 3.25gb of Ram 1x NEC DVD_RW ND-3550 Creative SB X-FI sound card My current resolution is 1280x960 tho it would be nice to hook it up to the 46 inch led hd tv now and again. I dont know what the motherboard is but its 8 years old so lets assume its also defunct and needs replacing. I have been looking at replacing this with this proposed build: i would expect this to last me up to 4 years i would of thought AMD Bulldozer FX 4130 Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 4.0Ghz 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM AMD / ATi HD 6450 Graphics Card With 2GB Dedicated DDR3 Graphics Memory 1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive CD / DVD-RW Optical Disc Drive MSI 760GM-P21-(FX) uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here) 500W Quiet Power Supply featuring large 120mm fan High Quality Vantage BLUE Desktop PC Gaming Case Fast Ethernet 10 / 100 LAN Port 6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back PLUS Additional 2 Ports On Top of Case 8 Channel HD Audio 4 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports 1 X PCI Express X16 Slot 1 X PCI Express X1 Slot 1 X PCI Slot 2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse) 1 X VGA Port 1 X DVI Port 1 x HDMI Port (With Audio) Dual Monitor Support Includes UK Mains Power Cable Includes All Relevant Driver Discs & Manuals I know nothing about computers but but i have managed to find out is the graphics card looks cheap spec. My budget is about £400 and wondering should I upgrade the components on my current build and work with case and fans ive got? Go for the proposed build and upgrade the graphics card. Totally start from scratch and enlist a friend or recommended pc builder to help me build a new spec. My proposed sources to get parts from would be ebuyer, ebay and amazon. I am in the Uk Also my budget doesnt include operating system. I currently use XP but planning on buying windows 7 as ive tried 8 on a laptop and cant get on with it. Many thanks in advance Assuming nothing is broken or dying you can reuse case, optical drive, hdd and powersupply (depends if its decent) . New case really only gives you usb3 ports on the front. If you want a new hdd might as well get a solid state for games and use your hdds for storage. edit: Actually hdd did use sata 8 years ago didn't they? If your hdd or optical have the thick tape connectors then you cant use them. Dont need 16g of RAM, 8 is great and you can get by on 4 if you really want to save money. 1600mhz is standard these days. AMD isn't competitive on processors these days, might be justifiable on a really cheap build, I dunno UK prices. Look for an i5 and H87 or B85 mobo. HD6450 is a pile, integrated graphics probably give it a run for its money. edit: Somehow I missed your question, enlist a friend to build a computer using as many of your old parts as necessary to get under the budget. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Even though this build (aria.co.uk superspecial prebuilt, 1 left) is skimping, especially on the power supply, at £300 it's a good value. The CPU is a dual core and at a lower clock speed, but for most tasks it's somewhat faster than the FX-4130. It has a HD 7770, which is what, something like five times faster than an HD 6450? http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming Range/Clearance Gaming PCs/Gladiator G2020-HD7770 Intel 2.90GHz Dual-Core Next Day Gaming PC ?productId=54929 I wouldn't particularly trust the old build's power supply, the case probably sucks, the RAM and mobo are compatible with nothing, the optical drive is IDE/PATA and not compatible with modern mobos, etc. You can scavenge the old hard drives if you want (case too if you really wanted), but old and slow models are meh, and something old might not be too far from problems and death anyway. edit: tbh if you'd need help or some small effort to build yourself, I'd just look into getting the above. It's cheaper than cost of individual components, though not by a staggering amount. Somebody else double-check and make sure I'm not brain farting on the price and components. Considering it's a special where there's only one left, you might want to get on it quickly. | ||
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Big Monkey
United Kingdom473 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:55 Myrmidon wrote: How much does that system cost? If it's close to £400, it's way too much. Even though this build (aria.co.uk superspecial prebuilt, 1 left) is skimping, especially on the power supply, at £300 it's a good value. The CPU is a dual core and at a lower clock speed, but for most tasks it's somewhat faster than the FX-4130. It has a HD 7770, which is what, something like five times faster than an HD 6450? http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming Range/Clearance Gaming PCs/Gladiator G2020-HD7770 Intel 2.90GHz Dual-Core Next Day Gaming PC ?productId=54929 I wouldn't particularly trust the old build's power supply, the case probably sucks, the RAM and mobo are compatible with nothing, the optical drive is IDE/PATA and not compatible with modern mobos, etc. You can scavenge the old hard drives if you want (case too if you really wanted), but old and slow models are meh, and something old might not be too far from problems and death anyway. edit: tbh if you'd need help or some small effort to build yourself, I'd just look into getting the above. It's cheaper than cost of individual components, though not by a staggering amount. Somebody else double-check and make sure I'm not brain farting on the price and components. Considering it's a special where there's only one left, you might want to get on it quickly. The cost is £359, too much? | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:55 Myrmidon wrote: + Show Spoiler + How much does that system cost? If it's close to £400, it's way too much. Even though this build (aria.co.uk superspecial prebuilt, 1 left) is skimping, especially on the power supply, at £300 it's a good value. The CPU is a dual core and at a lower clock speed, but for most tasks it's somewhat faster than the FX-4130. It has a HD 7770, which is what, something like five times faster than an HD 6450? http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming Range/Clearance Gaming PCs/Gladiator G2020-HD7770 Intel 2.90GHz Dual-Core Next Day Gaming PC ?productId=54929 I wouldn't particularly trust the old build's power supply, the case probably sucks, the RAM and mobo are compatible with nothing, the optical drive is IDE/PATA and not compatible with modern mobos, etc. You can scavenge the old hard drives if you want (case too if you really wanted), but old and slow models are meh, and something old might not be too far from problems and death anyway. edit: tbh if you'd need help or some small effort to build yourself, I'd just look into getting the above. It's cheaper than cost of individual components, though not by a staggering amount. Somebody else double-check and make sure I'm not brain farting on the price and components. Considering it's a special where there's only one left, you might want to get on it quickly. I would check up on the company's reputation, but the price seems great for a year warranty and tech support. Doesn't come with an OS, but for the price that isn't so bad. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I gave the wrong link earlier... or rather, you need to click the special web-only price part to get the £300 (inc. VAT). http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other products/Gladiator G2020-HD7770 Intel 2.90GHz Dual-Core Next Day Gaming PC ?productId=54929 | ||
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Big Monkey
United Kingdom473 Posts
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:42 Blaec wrote: Assuming nothing is broken or dying you can reuse case, optical drive, hdd and powersupply (depends if its decent) . New case really only gives you usb3 ports on the front. If you want a new hdd might as well get a solid state for games and use your hdds for storage. edit: Actually hdd did use sata 8 years ago didn't they? If your hdd or optical have the thick tape connectors then you cant use them. Dont need 16g of RAM, 8 is great and you can get by on 4 if you really want to save money. 1600mhz is standard these days. AMD isn't competitive on processors these days, might be justifiable on a really cheap build, I dunno UK prices. Look for an i5 and H87 or B85 mobo. HD6450 is a pile, integrated graphics probably give it a run for its money. edit: Somehow I missed your question, enlist a friend to build a computer using as many of your old parts as necessary to get under the budget. AMD CPUs offer fantastic value. An 8320 + mobo + Hyper 212 for as little as 230 euro at 4.5ghz? Yes, please. It depends on budget etc. but AMD CPUs are well priced in their respective brackets. | ||
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neobowman
Canada3324 Posts
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not sure what a second GPU would do. If it helps performance a lot while still keeping cost low, sure. I have a nearby Canada Computers I can go to for parts. Otherwise, I can go online for stuff. In Toronto so it shouldn't be hard to ship. I'd like to keep the case of omy old computer if it cuts down on costs, but it's probably crappy and incompatible with new parts | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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