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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 25 2013 03:21 GMT
#31881
Say, in a week.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 04:05:31
July 25 2013 03:45 GMT
#31882
On July 25 2013 12:21 neobowman wrote:
Say, in a week.


$560 before mail in rebates, taxes, shipping, and other applicable fees. If its over budget then remove the SSD and re-use your old HDD. Also, I assume you're using the 7950 so I did not include a GPU.

Core i5 4570 @ $201 (pricematch with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8037042 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45431

G.Skill RipjawsX 2x4gb 2133MHz @ $70
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251

H87M-G43 @ $90
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45785

Corsair Carbide 200R @ $46 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC4558 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41599

XFX Core Edition 550 @ $58
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1275

Samsung 840 120gb @ $95 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR4393 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340
Rafterman
Profile Joined July 2013
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 03:51:35
July 25 2013 03:50 GMT
#31883
Can someone with computer knowledge pm me if this laptop is any good. I don't know jack about computers so trying to find a cheap one that isn't garbage is proving rather difficult. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393060,00.asp

$600 is right about where my budget is with a little flex if anyone knows of something better.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 25 2013 04:00 GMT
#31884
Not garbage at what?

Build quality, materials, battery life, display quality, keyboard quality, trackpad quality, overheating, chassis temperatures on load, noise levels, games performance (which games), application performance (which applications)? And in what priorities?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
July 25 2013 04:03 GMT
#31885
On July 25 2013 12:45 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 12:21 neobowman wrote:
Say, in a week.


$600 before mail in rebates, taxes, shipping, and other applicable fees. If its over budget then remove the SSD and re-use your old HDD. Also, I assume you're using the 7950 so I did not include a GPU.

Core i5 4570 @ $201 (pricematch with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8037042 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45431

Fractal Design Core 1000 @ $40
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX37327

G.Skill RipjawsX 2x4gb 2133MHz @ $70
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251

H87M-G43 @ $90
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45785

Corsair Carbide 200R @ $46 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC4558 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41599

XFX Core Edition 550 @ $58
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1275

Samsung 840 120gb @ $95 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR4393 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340

2 Cases
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 25 2013 04:05 GMT
#31886
Ops =p
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 25 2013 04:08 GMT
#31887
Thank you so much. <3.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 04:47:34
July 25 2013 04:46 GMT
#31888
On July 25 2013 12:45 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 12:21 neobowman wrote:
Say, in a week.


$560 before mail in rebates, taxes, shipping, and other applicable fees. If its over budget then remove the SSD and re-use your old HDD. Also, I assume you're using the 7950 so I did not include a GPU.

Core i5 4570 @ $201 (pricematch with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8037042 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45431

G.Skill RipjawsX 2x4gb 2133MHz @ $70
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX34251

H87M-G43 @ $90
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45785

Corsair Carbide 200R @ $46 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC4558 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41599

XFX Core Edition 550 @ $58
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1275

Samsung 840 120gb @ $95 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR4393 )
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340

Sorry bout double post. Real quick question. Already have this. Do I still need the RAM or can I just use that?

Edit: I also have a Kingston HyperX Fan. I assume it's compatible.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 25 2013 05:33 GMT
#31889
You can use those.

You don't need a fan over your memory, don't bother installing it.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
July 25 2013 06:36 GMT
#31890
On July 25 2013 07:03 Gumbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 02:42 Blaec wrote:
On July 25 2013 02:28 Big Monkey wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ive been playing eve online now for a number of years and 8 years ago i bought a custom built pc with these main componenets i can find out:

Radeon x1600/1650
2x sata II 250gb each
Intel pendium 2.66 Ghz
3.25gb of Ram
1x NEC DVD_RW ND-3550
Creative SB X-FI sound card
My current resolution is 1280x960 tho it would be nice to hook it up to the 46 inch led hd tv now and again.
I dont know what the motherboard is but its 8 years old so lets assume its also defunct and needs replacing.
I have been looking at replacing this with this proposed build: i would expect this to last me up to 4 years i would of thought


AMD Bulldozer FX 4130 Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 4.0Ghz
16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
AMD / ATi HD 6450 Graphics Card With 2GB Dedicated DDR3 Graphics Memory
1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
CD / DVD-RW Optical Disc Drive
MSI 760GM-P21-(FX) uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here)
500W Quiet Power Supply featuring large 120mm fan
High Quality Vantage BLUE Desktop PC Gaming Case
Fast Ethernet 10 / 100 LAN Port
6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back PLUS Additional 2 Ports On Top of Case
8 Channel HD Audio
4 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports
1 X PCI Express X16 Slot
1 X PCI Express X1 Slot
1 X PCI Slot
2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse)
1 X VGA Port
1 X DVI Port
1 x HDMI Port (With Audio)
Dual Monitor Support
Includes UK Mains Power Cable
Includes All Relevant Driver Discs & Manuals
I know nothing about computers but but i have managed to find out is the graphics card looks cheap spec.

My budget is about £400 and wondering should I upgrade the components on my current build and work with case and fans ive got?
Go for the proposed build and upgrade the graphics card.
Totally start from scratch and enlist a friend or recommended pc builder to help me build a new spec.
My proposed sources to get parts from would be ebuyer, ebay and amazon.
I am in the Uk
Also my budget doesnt include operating system. I currently use XP but planning on buying windows 7 as ive tried 8 on a laptop and cant get on with it.
Many thanks in advance


Assuming nothing is broken or dying you can reuse case, optical drive, hdd and powersupply (depends if its decent) .
New case really only gives you usb3 ports on the front.
If you want a new hdd might as well get a solid state for games and use your hdds for storage.

edit: Actually hdd did use sata 8 years ago didn't they?
If your hdd or optical have the thick tape connectors then you cant use them.

Dont need 16g of RAM, 8 is great and you can get by on 4 if you really want to save money. 1600mhz is standard these days.

AMD isn't competitive on processors these days, might be justifiable on a really cheap build, I dunno UK prices. Look for an i5 and H87 or B85 mobo.

HD6450 is a pile, integrated graphics probably give it a run for its money.

edit: Somehow I missed your question, enlist a friend to build a computer using as many of your old parts as necessary to get under the budget.

AMD CPUs offer fantastic value. An 8320 + mobo + Hyper 212 for as little as 230 euro at 4.5ghz? Yes, please. It depends on budget etc. but AMD CPUs are well priced in their respective brackets.


The prices seem amazing, but I never found out exactly where they fit. Is the FX series an option if you can only stretch the budget to an i3, or are they more in the pentium range?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 25 2013 06:47 GMT
#31891
FX6300 over i3 if you're overclocking. FX8320 if you want an octo core rather than hex core. The rest don't really make sense, especially the $1000 FX lol.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 25 2013 07:44 GMT
#31892
AMD is good value on the lower end with APU's and then 4, 6 and for some uses 8 core piledrivers, they don't get really obliterated until you get to i5 overclocking
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 13:12:02
July 25 2013 13:06 GMT
#31893
The problem I find with the FX series is that finding a good cheapass motherboard in Australia is extremely difficult, especially if you're looking for an mATX motherboard. This is irrational but I don't really trust low end motherboards with an overclocked 4 module processor since the power draw on those things are insane.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 15:00:26
July 25 2013 14:57 GMT
#31894
Could someone tell me if this setup is any good? Perhaps I could skimp on some parts of it? I know that the cooling and PSU are quite over the top for it, but I plan to upgrade it in the future when I have some more dough flowing in (switching CPU and Mobo and getting another GPU and some SSD in it).

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE, 3.4GHz
Cooling: be quiet! Shadow Rock Pro SR1
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme4
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x4GB 1600MHz CL9, Non-ECC, XMP
GPU: ASUS HD7870-DC2TG-2GD5-V2
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB, 64MB Cache
PSU: be quiet! Straight Power BQT E9-600W
Case: Corsair Carbide 500R white

I'll be getting it at the beginning of next week (need it before next thursday).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 25 2013 15:30 GMT
#31895
Do you have a particular reason to go AMD? Intel can be better in many ways.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 15:52:47
July 25 2013 15:44 GMT
#31896
I want cheap cpu + mobo that can handle stuff well for the moment as I'm planning to exchange them for intel stuff later on. It lets me get other stuff that will be able to handle i5 or i7 when I get the cash to upgrade.

My brother is running the older version of this (x4 830 be or something) and only just recently he found games that he can't run on ultra settings smoothly (and that's with 260GT geforce).

I also need 4 cores to help with huge database manipulation (work work work).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 25 2013 15:46 GMT
#31897
Hey guys, I built my computer (with a lot of friend help... to the point I was just trying to let them work while I hold my dog back), I love it . Thank you guys for all the help!
User was warned for too many mimes.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 25 2013 15:47 GMT
#31898
With a cheaper motherboard, stock cooler, cheaper case, cheaper power supply (though not by too much), cheaper hard drive (likewise, not all that much to save here), and possibly slightly cheaper RAM, you could afford a Haswell i5 and motherboard?

Go for B85 / non-k i5 if you have to and forget about a later upgrade. Or skimp on graphics now and make that your later upgrade.

Anyway, I have trouble understanding why you'd want to buy Phenom II X4 unless you're getting it for really cheap and absolutely are going minimal on the rest of the build.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 16:09:26
July 25 2013 15:56 GMT
#31899
On July 26 2013 00:47 Myrmidon wrote:
With a cheaper motherboard, stock cooler, cheaper case, cheaper power supply (though not by too much), cheaper hard drive (likewise, not all that much to save here), and possibly slightly cheaper RAM, you could afford a Haswell i5 and motherboard?

Go for B85 / non-k i5 if you have to and forget about a later upgrade. Or skimp on graphics now and make that your later upgrade.

Anyway, I have trouble understanding why you'd want to buy Phenom II X4 unless you're getting it for really cheap and absolutely are going minimal on the rest of the build.


Haswell i5 (just the cpu) is 25% more expensive than x4 + mobo where I'm getting it. B85 mobo is going to be only slightly cheaper than 970 extreme4. In total, it would be 33% more expensive (cpu + mobo). In theory I could make it if I stuck with stock cpu cooling, dropped RAM to 2x2GB and downgrading something else (HDD or PSU)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 16:10:20
July 25 2013 16:08 GMT
#31900
Don't forget that you can take out the cooler if you go haswell. That will probably negate a lot of that 33%, and you'd get significantly higher performance. You can (like they said) always just use HD4400 for now and get a new GPU in a few weeks, and you wil have a much better overall machine.
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