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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 22 2013 16:45 GMT
#31841
On July 22 2013 19:54 Womwomwom wrote:
I've also been looking at FM2 motherboards. From what I can see, the only difference between the A55/A75/A85 chipsets are the number of SATA3 and USB3 ports. All of these boards can overclock but I think literally all of them are running 3+1/3+2/4+2 phase VRMs so I wouldn't put a lot of voltage into them.

Regarding your build: the Antec VSK series are no better than bargain bin cases. They might be Antec but they're not better than your piece of shit $20 case. I got one from MSY and you can tell how shit it is because it has the same sharp shiny steel that is common on rubbish cases and there's actual tooling issues regarding motherboard standoffs. Pay a few bucks more for a better case like the NZXT Source 210, find one on eBay/Craigslist or choose a cheaper chassis.

Hmm, that's unfortunate. I'll look at getting a source or other better case.

OC the graphics, to like 1000mhz or something (vs 840 stock), and pump up the voltage on the Ram to 2v (AMD's controller can handle high voltage, they use to make high voltage ram before everybody adopted Intel's 1.65v limit) or something to get 2133mhz hopefully.


Any guides for doing it? I'd be comfortable doing it but my computer illiterate brother certainly would not be.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
July 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#31842
Truthfully I have no idea how to OC AMD systems. However I'm pretty sure for the Graphics you will just need a software untility such as MSI Afterburner. Ram however will be through the BIOS...
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 22 2013 20:49 GMT
#31843
I wouldn't put 2v into random RAM, i hear a lot of kits can take 1.8-1.9v though. It seems silly to do if you don't know exactly what you're doing
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 22 2013 21:08 GMT
#31844
On July 23 2013 05:49 Cyro wrote:
I wouldn't put 2v into random RAM, i hear a lot of kits can take 1.8-1.9v though. It seems silly to do if you don't know exactly what you're doing

My thoughts, tbh. plus if something goes haywire he will have no way to fix it.
snakeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada19 Posts
July 22 2013 22:03 GMT
#31845
I'm looking to purchase a new computer, but my knowledge towards computer building and hardware is not that much. Any help will be appreciated. All hardware parts will be purchased at ncix.ca and also be assembled by them. Purpose of used will be mainly for gaming and streaming. Looking at a price range of $1500-2000 before taxes.

Here is a overview of the specs: Please start looking at Configuration Detail and below for the specs because the summary one on top is incorrect.
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc_print.cfm?uuid=E7FB12E9-B1FD-4E25-A506C227994A66B0-5176354&skulist=70541|1-33130|1-71114|1-59431|1-71705|1-76376|1-75728|1-78303|1-66010|1-78097|1-82953|1-33602|1-33601|1-7842|1-6024|1-70451|1

With the lack of knowledge, I got a few questions.

1) Will all parts be compatible?
2) Will everything fit in the case?
3) Is there enough fan/cooling?
4) Is the power supply enough?

If I missed anything, please feel free to tell me. Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#31846
On July 23 2013 07:03 snakeh wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to purchase a new computer, but my knowledge towards computer building and hardware is not that much. Any help will be appreciated. All hardware parts will be purchased at ncix.ca and also be assembled by them. Purpose of used will be mainly for gaming and streaming. Looking at a price range of $1500-2000 before taxes.

Here is a overview of the specs: Please start looking at Configuration Detail and below for the specs because the summary one on top is incorrect.
http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc_print.cfm?uuid=E7FB12E9-B1FD-4E25-A506C227994A66B0-5176354&skulist=70541|1-33130|1-71114|1-59431|1-71705|1-76376|1-75728|1-78303|1-66010|1-78097|1-82953|1-33602|1-33601|1-7842|1-6024|1-70451|1

With the lack of knowledge, I got a few questions.

1) Will all parts be compatible?
2) Will everything fit in the case?
3) Is there enough fan/cooling?
4) Is the power supply enough?

If I missed anything, please feel free to tell me. Thanks!


You should not be using NCIX's configurator. Instead, you should be adding all the individual components and then adding: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842

That configuration is poorly put together. For us to better help you, you need to provide us answers to the questions that are listed in the OP.

If there are any compatibility issues, NCIX will contact you and a 750w power supply is extreme overkill for most computers, including this one.
rolando
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
July 23 2013 03:09 GMT
#31847
Hi. I want advice on the build that I'm making

Parts supercombo
Monitor Monitor

Total price comes to 960 before rebate and 900 after. Any advice on parts or other sites would be greatly appreciated.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 23 2013 03:26 GMT
#31848
On July 23 2013 12:09 rolando wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hi. I want advice on the build that I'm making

Parts supercombo
Monitor Monitor

Total price comes to 960 before rebate and 900 after. Any advice on parts or other sites would be greatly appreciated


What advice can we give you without any information? Answer the questions in the OP so we can better help you.

Like most system bundles on Newegg, it's bad but the combo discounts takes care of the badness (sort of). So if you don't care about a good build then it's okay. You'll also need to add an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking.
rolando
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 04:10:33
July 23 2013 04:07 GMT
#31849
sorry. Money isn't too big of an issue but I'd like it to come out under 1000. Will be playing primarilty starcraft and league at 1080p resolution but want it to be able to play newer games at decent graphics. I don't need an OS and I plan on OC'ing both the GPU and CPU. I will be using this computer primarily in college and want it to look nice. What could I do to make the combo less bad? and also I would lke some help choosing out and aftermarket heatsink. Thanks for any help.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 23 2013 04:32 GMT
#31850
On July 23 2013 13:07 rolando wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
sorry. Money isn't too big of an issue but I'd like it to come out under 1000. Will be playing primarilty starcraft and league at 1080p resolution but want it to be able to play newer games at decent graphics. I don't need an OS and I plan on OC'ing both the GPU and CPU. I will be using this computer primarily in college and want it to look nice. What could I do to make the combo less bad? and also I would lke some help choosing out and aftermarket heatsink. Thanks for any help.


$904 total before mail in rebates, shipping, taxes, and other applicable fees. Better in every aspect for the same price as your system combo. If you want an SSD, add a Samsung 840 250gb for $165: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&promoid=1311

Core i5 4670k & Gigabyte Z87X-D3H @ $365
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355051

Noctua NH-U14S @ $75
http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U14S-Sockets-Heatpipe-Cooling/dp/B00C9FLSLY

Sapphire Radeon HD7870 @ $185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz @ $63 (w/ promo code GSKILLSAVE10, ends 7/31 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Fractal Design Define R4 Titanium @ $80 *black, white, and windowed variants also available for ~$10 more at Amazon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352022

Western Digital Blue 1TB & DVD Burner @ $76
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1385084
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 23 2013 04:39 GMT
#31851
@rolando

Well first off I'm going to get you a nice monitor to start the build. A BenQ gw2450 for $160 is a great price for a good 24" 1920x1080 monitor. http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=81705 Next we'll deal with the basics you need. A cheap, roomy case (has a blue LED fan) for $35 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57909&vpn=Z9&manufacture=ZALMAN TECH&promoid=1311, a decent power supply for $56 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1311, some RAM for $51 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=78509&vpn=BLT2KIT4G3D1337DT1TX0&manufacture=CRUCIAL TECHNOLOGY, and a hard drive for $60 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&vpn=WD10EZEX&manufacture=Western Digital WD&promoid=1311 . That should still leave us plenty of budget for a high-end CPU, like the i5-4670k for $235 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=81327&vpn=BX80646I54670K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1311 . You seem to be into overclocking, so we'll need a good mobo for $138 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=84040&vpn=GA-Z87X-D3H&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1311 . Then of course a heatsink. An HR-02 Macho is quality for $53 http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Macho-Support-Socket-Driver/dp/B009MS326U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374554102&sr=8-1&keywords=hr-02 macho . We're running out of money so we better stick in a GPU, like a 7870 for $185 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025 . That's a darn good build for $943, which should leave you $50 or so for saving for an SSD, getting a better mouse, or whatever. Oh, and an optical drive. I left out a DVD-burner. Enjoy!
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
rolando
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
July 23 2013 05:17 GMT
#31852
Thanks for the help everybody.

Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147160

Core i5 4670k & Gigabyte Z87X-D3H http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355051

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4gb 2400MHz @ $63 (w/ promo code GSKILLSAVE10, ends 7/31 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666

Western Digital Blue 1TB & DVD Burner @ $76
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1385084

and for Power supplies I am tryin to decide between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 23 2013 05:23 GMT
#31853
If you want to be cheap than get the CX430. Otherwise get the significantly better Capstone.
rolando
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
July 23 2013 05:30 GMT
#31854
ok. Thanks a lot for your help. For an aftermarket cooler I was thinking this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146025 but I was wondering if I need to by some thermal paste as well.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 05:45:03
July 23 2013 05:37 GMT
#31855
heatsinks come with their own thermal paste pre applied (for all of those i've mounted, so i guess at least most of them?)

that one though is bad (read a couple of reviews, goes up to 77° on a 4.0GHZ i5-2500k, not really good)

the cheapest you would want to go really would be this
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 23 2013 06:05 GMT
#31856
Haswell puts out a lot of heat so skimping so hard on a heatsink is rather stupid. You might as well just save your money and not overclock because you won't get very far with that garbage.
rolando
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 08:32:33
July 23 2013 08:13 GMT
#31857
would this heatsink get the job done
also is This RAM and This Mobo compatible because the RAM speed is not listed under the speeds that are compatible.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 23 2013 09:27 GMT
#31858
Yes compatible (everything)

Why would you want a significantly worse heatsink though? Look at the u12s, u14s or other higher end air
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
rolando
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
July 23 2013 09:46 GMT
#31859
would This be good enough to get to 4ghz on the 4670k?
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 09:57:23
July 23 2013 09:52 GMT
#31860
On July 23 2013 17:13 rolando wrote:
would this heatsink get the job done
also is This RAM and This Mobo compatible because the RAM speed is not listed under the speeds that are compatible.


On July 23 2013 18:46 rolando wrote:
would This be good enough to get to 4ghz on the 4670k?


You are looking at products that are too weak.

This one has good performance, but those $60 are definitely overpriced: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118133&Tpk=zalman cnps14x&IsVirtualParent=1

This has similar performance and the fan is more quiet... It's probably the very best choice if you want to save money: http://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-BW-Support-Socket-Driver/dp/B008YTUN38

Of the very best air coolers, what you might want to look at is the Noctua U14S. That's the only one I can seem to find at a good price in the US.

EDIT: Here's the CNPS14x for $40: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=2222127739&vpn=CNPS14X&manufacture=Zalman&catid=10
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