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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
OC'ing should help you for both of those games, but if you do so, you'll also need a heatsink (the 260$ combo of i5-4570k and msi Z87-G41 at mc would be good). If you do not OC, just getting a i5-4570 and the cheapest b85 would be fine. for memory this And bad psu at that price point too, the Rosewill capstonne 450 is cheaper and much much better. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 22 2013 08:07 Lifan wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I filled out a form a few pages back, but no-one answered  Anyways though, I went to micro-center today (my mom wanted an external hard drive), and I asked a guy for a build, and he gave me this MSI Z87-G45 GAMING 1150 ATX ($99.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693 INTEL BOX INTEL CORE I5-4670K ($199.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899 CRUCIAL 8GB 4X2 D3 1600 DIMM ($69.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544 IPSG LG 24X DVDRW SATA OEM ($15.99) http://www.microcenter.com/product/407512/24x_Super_Multi_Internal_SATA_DVDRW_DL_Drive_-_Bare_Drive MSI GT650TIBOOST OC 2GB PCIE ($169.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127728 COSAIR 600W CXMOD 80+BRZ ATX ($64.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027 COSAIR CARBIDE SERIES 300R C ($69.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011 TOSHOEM TOS 3.5" 1TB 7200 HDD ($59.99) http://www.microcenter.com/product/400847/1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_60Gb-s_35_Internal_Hard_Drive_DT01ACA100_-_Bare_Drive Total: $750.92 ($795.98 with tax). Btw, the two I linked to micro-center were out of stock or discontinued on newegg, also, it seems to me that the micro-center prices seem a fair bit lower, but it might just be me. Is this a good build? The fellow said that it would be-able to run starcraft at high settings along with handling most modern games. Here is my original post if anyone is curious + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2013 08:45 Lifan wrote: What is your budget? $700-800; although there is a small wiggle room. What is your resolution? I plan on using a monitor that is 1680 x 1050, the Viewsonic VA2226w, although if there is a significant improvement, I'm open to get a new one. http://www.hk.viewsonic.com/en/products/productspecs.php?id=327 What are you using it for? Starcraft II mostly, although I'd like ideally to be able to play Rome II when it comes out. The Fifa titles too What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years When do you plan on building it? About 2-4 weeks from now Do you plan on overclocking? Not really Do you need an Operating System? nope Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? nope Where are you buying your parts from? Online I'd suppose, although there is a microcenter near-by Thanks in advance.  Edit 2: Nevermind, looked up some of the stuff, and the bundle was no longer available and one of the parts was discontinued + Show Spoiler + mITX: i5-4430 & Slim DVD Burner $203.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1360008 ASRock B85M-ITX $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157390 Samsung 840 120GB $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147185 SilverStone Sugo SG05 w/450w PSU $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163208 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 & MSI HD7770 $167.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1377356 Win7 $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Total: $776.92 Although it does include a windows 7 as part of it which I don't need, not sure how that affects the rest of the parts Yes, that build can run Starcraft II at max settings and can handle most games reasonably well. The list is okay except: Z series boards and K suffix processors are for overclocking but you said you're not going to overclock. But the 4670k bundle at Microcenter is just too good to pass up on overclocking. So you should consider looking into overclocking at some point in time if you end up purchasing that. Both Starcraft II and Total War are CPU heavy so it is recommended. You don't need a 600w power supply for this configuration and the Rosewill Capstone 450 for $5 less is significantly better than the Corsair CX600: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Keep in mind if you plan on buying all your parts from Microcenter than they won't have the Capstone. You'll want 2x4gb rather than 4x2gb. G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4gb 2400MHz for $63 (w/ promo code GSKILLSAVE10, ends 7/31 ): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666 Simply amazing deal, the best kit in the US right now. GTX 650 Ti Boost for $160 is expensive when both the Radeon HD7870 and GTX 660 are better for only ~$20 more. And there's a GTX 650 Ti Boost right now for $125 (w/ promo code COMPNTSAL45, ends 7/29): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127731 For $10 more, you might want to consider a Fractal Design Define R4 which is a sound dampening case and slightly nicer than the Corsair 300R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352022 There's also black and white versions and windowed versions available for slightly more. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
The guy gave you a good overclocking build nothing terribly weak about it, though you might prefer spending less on overclocking & more on GPU for Rome II. Also, what SkyR & rachnar said. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
From Micro-Center pick up an i5-4570 for $160 and a DVD Burner for $16. ASRock H87 Pro4 $78 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157383 MSI GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB $125 w/promo code COMPNTSAL45, ends 7/29 ($15MIR) $75 in in game coupons http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127731 NZXT Source 210 $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075 Samsung 840 250GB $175 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147189 Corsair CX430M $42.50 w/promo code EMCXNWL32, ends 7/22 ($20MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v c9 $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544 Total: $705 And get a 1080p monitor (Asus vs229h-p is $130) instead of that 1680x1050 one (unless you already bought it). And am I ninja'd? | ||
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Lifan
United States73 Posts
) and I ended up with thishard drive: TOSHOEM TOS 3.5" 1TB 7200 HDD for $59.99 motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 GAMING 1150 ATX for 99.99 processor: INTEL BOX INTEL CORE I5-4670K for 199.99 case: Fractal Design Define R4 for 79.99 graphics card: GTX 650 Ti Boost for $125 memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4gb 2400MHz for $63 power supply: Rosewill Capstone 450 for $59.99 dvd drive: IPSG LG 24X DVDRW SATA OEM for $15.99 look into overclocking (apparently I need a heatsink? Not sure how that fits in) for a total of 702.95 Or should I just follow iTzSnypah's build to the letter? Not really sure what's the difference. Edit: Looked a little more carefully and realized that there's a solid state drive in iTzSnypah's build. Not sure if it's a huge difference or not, no one I know has a ssd so.... | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
For an overclockable build, you'd need an aftermarket heatsink. A Noctua NH-U14S for $60 is recommended: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=82802&promoid=1413 But you can just use the Intel stock heatsink for now and add this later if you don't have sufficient funds right now or don't plan on overclocking until a later date. | ||
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Lifan
United States73 Posts
But overall, the parts I listed look good? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Lifan
United States73 Posts
Just one last question, is there like a place I could go to like a forum or something to learn how to build a computer, I literally have no idea how, and since this is my first computer I"m going to build, I'm pretty nervous about messing up | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Quick tips: cases usually come with standoffs you screw into the case itself before situating the motherboard. These serve to separate the mobo from the metal case, and are easily forgotten. You should end up plugging two power cords into the motherboard. A large 20 (or 20+4) pin main power connection and a smaller 4 (or 4+4) CPU power connection. Many people forget the CPU power connection. Yes, you really do need to shove those RAM sticks in. Perhaps the thing to be most careful with is placing the CPU in the CPU socket. Bent pins = bad. But in general, just watch the Hardware Canucks video. And don't worry too much about static shock unless you live in a super-dry area where you always shock yourself getting into your car. Though don't build wearing socks on carpet and moonwalking. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
If you're counting mail in rebates than there's probably a better case. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On July 22 2013 12:19 iTzSnypah wrote: A55 doesn't have either USB3.0 or SATA 3...It's been forever since I looked at AMD's offerings. So I might me wrong. Also you can OC on all AMD boards right? Or do you need A85X? Gah I'm too tired to look it up. Eh, for him I'm just trying to keep costs as low as I can while meeting his needs. I'll check other case offerings. The DVD is a MIR with the CPU for 11 off. So that's why I went for it. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Regarding your build: the Antec VSK series are no better than bargain bin cases. They might be Antec but they're not better than your piece of shit $20 case. I got one from MSY and you can tell how shit it is because it has the same sharp shiny steel that is common on rubbish cases and there's actual tooling issues regarding motherboard standoffs. Pay a few bucks more for a better case like the NZXT Source 210, find one on eBay/Craigslist or choose a cheaper chassis. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
That should make way better frame rates. I don't know about OCing the CPU though, as you will only get a handful of Mhz. | ||
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