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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=757242#info http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=757240 http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=764132#info Especially the differences between the two first since they are almost equally prized. I know the site is in Norwegian, but the product specifications are in English. Thanks in advance  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
3770k and Z77 is for overclocking while the 3770 and b75 is not for overclocking. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
What are you looking for with CPU upgrade? You probably want an i5-4670 or 4670k | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The second has a high-end socket (so expensive motherboard) Core i7 processor using an architecture that's two generations old that offers some platform advantages for certain specific power users and use cases. It can be overclocked. The third is cheaper because it uses a last-gen Core i7 variant that can't be overclocked and then a cheaper motherboard. For almost all everyday tasks and almost every game, Core i7 offers no advantage over Core i5. What are you using the computer for, anyway? Most gamers who want high performance including a moderate CPU overclock would probably best take this with a decent aftermarket heatsink, unless cost is irrelevant, for example: http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=783615 | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On July 21 2013 13:31 Xiphias wrote: So I am going to upgrade my CPU, so I will have to get a new motherboard (the one I got is quite old). I saw that komplett.no has "upgrade packages" and since I only have 4 GB of RAM I might as well get some more of those as well. Now, they have some packages which seems similar but they have slightly different motherboards and some different CPU models. Anyone care to enlighten me on which of these packages are the "best" (or at least some of their main advantages / disadvantages..) http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=757242#info http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=757240 http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=764132#info Especially the differences between the two first since they are almost equally prized. I know the site is in Norwegian, but the product specifications are in English. Thanks in advance Oh and I am upgrading to improve streaming mostly. I have a Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2CPUs) atm, and it's not cutting it. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On July 21 2013 14:06 Xiphias wrote: Oh and I am upgrading to improve streaming mostly. I have a Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2CPUs) atm, and it's not cutting it. Sounds like a job for an overclocked i5. There could be some situations where an i7 might allow for very slightly better quality, but most should probably just save the money there. Going to a quad core would make a huge difference, and going from Core 2 Duo to a modern architecture is another big difference. If you overclock, you can get some significant improvement in clock speeds over all that too, but it's not necessary to have a much better experience. On July 21 2013 14:10 wei2coolman wrote: I know this isn't necessarily the place to ask; but I didn't want to clutter forum with another thread; but how good are the Intel integrated graphics for notebooks? Depends on which you're talking about. They've improved a lot lately in many respects, but it really depends on the model and what you want to do with it. For a laptop that won't play modern 3D games, recent models are probably significantly better than what's needed. For actually trying to run recent AAA games, ,it depends. But performance even on the top HD 5200 model leaves something to be desired for most people, I would think. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
http://www.komplett.no/k/kl.aspx?bn=10297 I only need a new motherboard, CPU and RAM. No graphic card. I want to be able to stream in high quality without lag and also do some amateur video editing with adobe premiere. I am willing to spend 4-5k NOR | ||
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Zadan
Canada64 Posts
I asked about 3570 vs 4570 initially, not about 4670 | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On July 21 2013 15:12 Zadan wrote: I asked about 3570 vs 4570 initially, not about 4670 For some reason, it's i5-3570 = i5-4670 about clock speed, and it's i5-3470 = i5-4570. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On July 21 2013 15:00 wei2coolman wrote: So it's better to get a laptop with a dedicated GPU? I'm looking at a fairly cheap laptop <700 USD; so just wondering what I should be looking for in terms of mobile GPU. I notice quite a few are the HD 4000 integrated; just wondering how they were. If you want to game on the laptop: yes. If you don't want to game on the laptop: no. | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
I have a MSI-560ti graphics card along with the z68 asrock mobo and i5-2500. I have 16GB RAM and a Earthwatts 500w PSU. I would think that I'd mainly need to just upgrade the i5 to an i7? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On July 22 2013 01:42 SleepTech wrote: I have an i5-2500 on a z68 motherboard. I don't know why I never got the 2500k, but anyways, what would I need in order to fraps games for youtube? I want to kind of delve into youtube content but not sure what all is needed. I haven't looked at the newer processors or anything in the past year and a half. I have a MSI-560ti graphics card along with the z68 asrock mobo and i5-2500. I have 16GB RAM and a Earthwatts 500w PSU. I would think that I'd mainly need to just upgrade the i5 to an i7? You should be able to record games for YouTube just fine with your system. Since you're not restricted by your internet bandwidth when making the recording (like you are when you stream), you can record with very little compression, giving large files but with less processor power required. After recording, you can directly upload it to YT or first reencode it to obtain smaller files for faster uploading. Either way, that's something you can do while you're sleeping or something. For a local recording you can use Fraps, but also streaming software like Xsplit and OBS have the option to record directly to your harddisk instead of streaming. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Rabid.wolf
United States17 Posts
On July 20 2013 23:21 skyR wrote: That's a Fractal Design Core 1000 that you linked. The Fractal Design Core 3000 is like $60. Just stick with the Fractal Design Core 1000 for ~$34 unless you no longer are sticking to budget and want to move up then get a Fractal Design Define R4 for $80. Mail in rebates aren't instant discounts that are counted in your check-out total, just so you know that. If you're going by mail in rebates, it's going to be much more expensive at check-out but you'll (or may) get your money back eventually over the span of six months. If you want to do mail in rebates than the Corsair TX650 is better with EMCXNWPP33 promo code, at $60 after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 If not doing mail in rebates than the Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better at $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 No reason to get a core i5 3570 at $209 when Newegg has the 4670 for $210 with promo code, get the 4670 with 7870 in this bundle and apply promo code COMPNTSAL23 for $380 ($365 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355700 Get the MSI B85M-G43 for $72 with promo code EMCXNWP229: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130700 The Samsung 840 120gb is cheaper at Amazon. Awesome, I made all the changes you suggested. Thank you for all the help. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
That's what my brother went with. What do you guys think. PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1j9bB Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1j9bB/by_merchant/ Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1j9bB/benchmarks/ CPU: AMD A10-6800K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ Newegg) Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N250PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.95 @ Amazon) Case: Antec VSK-3000 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($21.48 @ Newegg) Total: $328.38 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-21 19:03 EDT-0400) This + existing ripjaws 4gb ddr3 1600 9 | ||
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Lifan
United States73 Posts
 Anyways though, I went to micro-center today (my mom wanted an external hard drive), and I asked a guy for a build, and he gave me this MSI Z87-G45 GAMING 1150 ATX ($99.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693 INTEL BOX INTEL CORE I5-4670K ($199.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899 CRUCIAL 8GB 4X2 D3 1600 DIMM ($69.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544 IPSG LG 24X DVDRW SATA OEM ($15.99) http://www.microcenter.com/product/407512/24x_Super_Multi_Internal_SATA_DVDRW_DL_Drive_-_Bare_Drive MSI GT650TIBOOST OC 2GB PCIE ($169.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127728 COSAIR 600W CXMOD 80+BRZ ATX ($64.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027 COSAIR CARBIDE SERIES 300R C ($69.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011 TOSHOEM TOS 3.5" 1TB 7200 HDD ($59.99) http://www.microcenter.com/product/400847/1TB_7,200_RPM_SATA_60Gb-s_35_Internal_Hard_Drive_DT01ACA100_-_Bare_Drive Total: $750.92 ($795.98 with tax). Btw, the two I linked to micro-center were out of stock or discontinued on newegg, also, it seems to me that the micro-center prices seem a fair bit lower, but it might just be me. Is this a good build? The fellow said that it would be-able to run starcraft at high settings along with handling most modern games. Here is my original post if anyone is curious + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2013 08:45 Lifan wrote: What is your budget? $700-800; although there is a small wiggle room. What is your resolution? I plan on using a monitor that is 1680 x 1050, the Viewsonic VA2226w, although if there is a significant improvement, I'm open to get a new one. http://www.hk.viewsonic.com/en/products/productspecs.php?id=327 What are you using it for? Starcraft II mostly, although I'd like ideally to be able to play Rome II when it comes out. The Fifa titles too What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years When do you plan on building it? About 2-4 weeks from now Do you plan on overclocking? Not really Do you need an Operating System? nope Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? nope Where are you buying your parts from? Online I'd suppose, although there is a microcenter near-by Thanks in advance. Edit 2: Nevermind, looked up some of the stuff, and the bundle was no longer available and one of the parts was discontinued + Show Spoiler + mITX: i5-4430 & Slim DVD Burner $203.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1360008 ASRock B85M-ITX $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157390 Samsung 840 120GB $109.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147185 SilverStone Sugo SG05 w/450w PSU $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163208 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 & MSI HD7770 $167.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1377356 Win7 $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Total: $776.92 Although it does include a windows 7 as part of it which I don't need, not sure how that affects the rest of the parts | ||
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