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Z75 rating seem solid and it's similarly priced to what I was planning on buying, might have to go with that, although the first page looks scary Z77 has less reviews mentioning failure.. ugh decisions decisions..
Stability is pretty important so I come to think of it I can pay about a bill for a motherboard if it's worth the difference
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building new computer from scratch, looking for most bang for buck, thanks in advance
What is your budget?
~$1500 USD with monitor and speaker, willing to pay more if the extra money is worth it
What is your resolution?
1920x1080 single monitor, will consider adding second monitor in the future
What are you using it for?
gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
maybe in 4-5 years
When do you plan on building it?
very soon
Do you plan on overclocking?
willing to try
Do you need an Operating System?
no
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
maybe when upgrading in the future
Where are you buying your parts from?
sites that sell and ship to US
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On July 20 2013 08:12 rebuffering wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 08:05 skyR wrote:On July 20 2013 07:56 rebuffering wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So im almost done picking parts, if anyone can give me any advice, would be very appreciated! Im missing a PSU and RAM, so any suggestions would be nice, since i dont know how much wattage is really necessary. And also the whole thing about RAM and timings is something im not that familiar with. I have a monitor/keyboard/mouse etc. Just missing the PSU, RAM, and SSD. No need for optical drives or HDD's. Intel Core i5 Haswell http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=81327&promoid=1311Asus Motherboard Hero VI Z87 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84529&promoid=1311After Market Cooler Noctua NH-D14, yes i saw Skyr's post about it last page, hehe. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=47090GTX 770 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84048&promoid=1311Corsair Carbide 300R Case http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=66063&promoid=1311Edit:: Just realized i dont have an SSD on there, if anyone knows any good 120gb ones, please let me know. 300R is $65 at Memory Express: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX37031I never mentioned an NH-D14, someone else did because the U14S was OOS but luckily for you, it came back in stock so you can pricematch it at Memory Express with Newegg to get it for $63: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45777 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041You don't need such an expensive motherboard... A ~$140 Z87X-D3H is more than fine for most people: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46023 , pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=84040 Spending so much money on a motherboard is actually the biggest waste of money since you probably aren't going to do liquid, don't know what half the features you are paying for actually do, and it doesn't add to your performance. You can pricematch the GTX 770 at ME to get it for $405: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45835Pricematch a Samsung 840 120gb from Newegg $90: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188 with Memory Express to get it at $85: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340 Thanks very much for saving me some money!
You can pricematch the i5 at Memory Express too to get it for like $233 if you didn't already figure that out since I forgot to mention that.
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On July 20 2013 08:21 iokke wrote:Z75 rating seem solid and it's similarly priced to what I was planning on buying, might have to go with that, although the first page looks scary Z77 has less reviews mentioning failure.. ugh decisions decisions.. Stability is pretty important so I come to think of it I can pay about a bill for a motherboard if it's worth the difference
If you are going with a SSD you have to have Z77, Z75 doesn't have SSD Support (well it does, just not a very important feature that for some reason I can't remember the name of atm).
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On July 20 2013 09:03 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 08:12 rebuffering wrote:On July 20 2013 08:05 skyR wrote:On July 20 2013 07:56 rebuffering wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So im almost done picking parts, if anyone can give me any advice, would be very appreciated! Im missing a PSU and RAM, so any suggestions would be nice, since i dont know how much wattage is really necessary. And also the whole thing about RAM and timings is something im not that familiar with. I have a monitor/keyboard/mouse etc. Just missing the PSU, RAM, and SSD. No need for optical drives or HDD's. Intel Core i5 Haswell http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=81327&promoid=1311Asus Motherboard Hero VI Z87 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84529&promoid=1311After Market Cooler Noctua NH-D14, yes i saw Skyr's post about it last page, hehe. http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=47090GTX 770 http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=84048&promoid=1311Corsair Carbide 300R Case http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=66063&promoid=1311Edit:: Just realized i dont have an SSD on there, if anyone knows any good 120gb ones, please let me know. 300R is $65 at Memory Express: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX37031I never mentioned an NH-D14, someone else did because the U14S was OOS but luckily for you, it came back in stock so you can pricematch it at Memory Express with Newegg to get it for $63: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45777 , http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041You don't need such an expensive motherboard... A ~$140 Z87X-D3H is more than fine for most people: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX46023 , pricematch with http://ncix.com/products/?sku=84040 Spending so much money on a motherboard is actually the biggest waste of money since you probably aren't going to do liquid, don't know what half the features you are paying for actually do, and it doesn't add to your performance. You can pricematch the GTX 770 at ME to get it for $405: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45835Pricematch a Samsung 840 120gb from Newegg $90: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188 with Memory Express to get it at $85: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43340 Thanks very much for saving me some money! You can pricematch the i5 at Memory Express too to get it for like $233 if you didn't already figure that out since I forgot to mention that.
Did not notice that actually, thanks. Do you have any thoughts on the 770 i chose? theres so many variations, just going on reviews alone it seems like a decent choice, but im sure im missing something.
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I chose the same one after looking at some reviews etc (though i read the reviews before in the interest of buying a 770, then the giga one got a good offer on for a few uk sites, so i instabought), it's ridiculously quiet and dynamic underclocking when you are playing a lot of games gives you insane temperatures, like sc2 max settings 45c
Under full load with 20c ambient and good-ish (not ideal but not bad) case airflow, in games like Crysis 3 with high OC'd cpu also loaded, it only takes 65% fanspeed to level it off at 70c after a long time of case heating up etc with a light overclock on it which is so low temp it's probably bet to lower fan speed further
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Any of the big three (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte) and EVGA are good choices if you don't particularly care about anything. I don't pay much attention to GPU PCBs so can't really tell you which has the better PCB. But all three of their cooling solutions are good.
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On July 20 2013 09:52 Cyro wrote:
I chose the same one after looking at some reviews etc, it's ridiculously quiet and dynamic underclocking when you are playing a lot of games gives you insane temperatures, like sc2 max settings 45c
Under full load with 20c ambient and good-ish (not ideal but not bad) case airflow, in games like Crysis 3 with high OC'd cpu also loaded, it only takes 65% fanspeed to level it off at 70c after a long time of case heating up etc with a light overclock on it which is so low temp it's probably bet to lower fan speed further
Well im sold lol. Thanks very much. Honestly TL needs to pay you guys for giving such quick/great responses. Ownage. Thanks again all.
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We do get paid. In TL+ dollars 
np always
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ASUS RMAs have been ridiculously slow in my experience, FWIW. You definitely want to cross-ship if you are eligible and able.
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On July 19 2013 22:09 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 11:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:
What is your budget?
Around $600 I can go up a bit if it'll be a nice boost in performance
What is your resolution?
1680 x 1050 currently, planning to move up to 1920 x 1080 and stay there
What are you using it for?
Bioshock, Half Life 2, Crysis, a little bit of SC2
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 - 5 years
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next couple of weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No sir.
Do you need an Operating System?
I have one ^.^
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't plan to do that.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a nearby Frys and Newegg are my resources.
Also if possible I was wondering if the HDD could be forfeit in favor of a SSD, I have an external and a spare harddrive with me so if a 128+ GB SSD can find itself in the budget I would appreciate it but if it competes with performance too much then let me know. Thanks in advance fellas. Barring deals: DVD: Asus DVD thing $3 off @ $16 with promo code EMCXNWM68: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Case: Antec New Solution VSK-3000@ $29.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129186 or a Fractal Design Core 3000 for ~$34.49: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 & promo EMCXNWP226 PSU: Corsair CX430M @ $49.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 which is only like $5 more than the non modular version, so why not. RAM: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193Mobo: Asrock B75M @$50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157362CPU: i3-3220 @ $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @ $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $185: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025Total: $599.92 with Antec, + $5 with the Fractal Design case There may be deals around that I haven't found, but this will certainly work. I think the i3-3220 with hyperthreading should prevent any CPU bound scenarios with games of that caliber (except SC2, but that's not your focus) so it should be fine. Oh, and double post oops
Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it.
I was thinking I would remove the dvd drive because I honestly don't remember the last time I used one on my current pc. I was also wondering if it would be ok to swap out the RAM you suggested:
G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
For these instead:
G.Skill 1600 8GB (2x4) @$72: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
I know I'm going a bit over budget with that but I think it'll be worth it. I don't think it affects any component choices but my housemate has convinced me to start up on DOTA 2 as well. Thanks again for helping me out and if you have any more suggestions I would like to hear them.
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On July 20 2013 09:57 Cyro wrote:We do get paid. In TL+ dollars np always
Yes... you have to buy us 6 months of TL+ for every informative post we make... that's right...
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On July 20 2013 12:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2013 22:09 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 11:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:
What is your budget?
Around $600 I can go up a bit if it'll be a nice boost in performance
What is your resolution?
1680 x 1050 currently, planning to move up to 1920 x 1080 and stay there
What are you using it for?
Bioshock, Half Life 2, Crysis, a little bit of SC2
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 - 5 years
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next couple of weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No sir.
Do you need an Operating System?
I have one ^.^
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't plan to do that.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a nearby Frys and Newegg are my resources.
Also if possible I was wondering if the HDD could be forfeit in favor of a SSD, I have an external and a spare harddrive with me so if a 128+ GB SSD can find itself in the budget I would appreciate it but if it competes with performance too much then let me know. Thanks in advance fellas. Barring deals: DVD: Asus DVD thing $3 off @ $16 with promo code EMCXNWM68: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Case: Antec New Solution VSK-3000@ $29.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129186 or a Fractal Design Core 3000 for ~$34.49: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 & promo EMCXNWP226 PSU: Corsair CX430M @ $49.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 which is only like $5 more than the non modular version, so why not. RAM: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193Mobo: Asrock B75M @$50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157362CPU: i3-3220 @ $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @ $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $185: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025Total: $599.92 with Antec, + $5 with the Fractal Design case There may be deals around that I haven't found, but this will certainly work. I think the i3-3220 with hyperthreading should prevent any CPU bound scenarios with games of that caliber (except SC2, but that's not your focus) so it should be fine. Oh, and double post oops Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it. I was thinking I would remove the dvd drive because I honestly don't remember the last time I used one on my current pc. I was also wondering if it would be ok to swap out the RAM you suggested: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193For these instead: G.Skill 1600 8GB (2x4) @$72: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428I know I'm going a bit over budget with that but I think it'll be worth it. I don't think it affects any component choices but my housemate has convinced me to start up on DOTA 2 as well. Thanks again for helping me out and if you have any more suggestions I would like to hear them.
If you want to go over budget than you should probably consider a core i5 since iirc, Bioshock and Crysis does make use of quad cores.
And the 7870 requires two PCIe connectors while the CX430 only has one so you're going to have to use an adapter which sort of eliminates the point of having a modular unit.
If you want 8gb, get these instead for ~$64 with promo code GSKILLSAVE10: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666
Get the CPU in a combo with something, typically motherboard or GPU.
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On July 20 2013 12:49 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 12:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2013 22:09 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 11:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:
What is your budget?
Around $600 I can go up a bit if it'll be a nice boost in performance
What is your resolution?
1680 x 1050 currently, planning to move up to 1920 x 1080 and stay there
What are you using it for?
Bioshock, Half Life 2, Crysis, a little bit of SC2
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 - 5 years
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next couple of weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No sir.
Do you need an Operating System?
I have one ^.^
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't plan to do that.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a nearby Frys and Newegg are my resources.
Also if possible I was wondering if the HDD could be forfeit in favor of a SSD, I have an external and a spare harddrive with me so if a 128+ GB SSD can find itself in the budget I would appreciate it but if it competes with performance too much then let me know. Thanks in advance fellas. Barring deals: DVD: Asus DVD thing $3 off @ $16 with promo code EMCXNWM68: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Case: Antec New Solution VSK-3000@ $29.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129186 or a Fractal Design Core 3000 for ~$34.49: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 & promo EMCXNWP226 PSU: Corsair CX430M @ $49.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 which is only like $5 more than the non modular version, so why not. RAM: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193Mobo: Asrock B75M @$50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157362CPU: i3-3220 @ $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @ $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $185: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025Total: $599.92 with Antec, + $5 with the Fractal Design case There may be deals around that I haven't found, but this will certainly work. I think the i3-3220 with hyperthreading should prevent any CPU bound scenarios with games of that caliber (except SC2, but that's not your focus) so it should be fine. Oh, and double post oops Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it. I was thinking I would remove the dvd drive because I honestly don't remember the last time I used one on my current pc. I was also wondering if it would be ok to swap out the RAM you suggested: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193For these instead: G.Skill 1600 8GB (2x4) @$72: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428I know I'm going a bit over budget with that but I think it'll be worth it. I don't think it affects any component choices but my housemate has convinced me to start up on DOTA 2 as well. Thanks again for helping me out and if you have any more suggestions I would like to hear them. If you want to go over budget than you should probably consider a core i5 since iirc, Bioshock and Crysis does make use of quad cores. And the 7870 requires two PCIe connectors while the CX430 only has one so you're going to have to use an adapter which sort of eliminates the point of having a modular unit. If you want 8gb, get these instead for ~$64 with promo code GSKILLSAVE10: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666Get the CPU in a combo with something, typically motherboard or GPU.
Oh, those are important things to know. As far as tips go, listen to Skyr. He's much smarter than me
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On July 20 2013 12:49 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 12:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2013 22:09 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 11:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:
What is your budget?
Around $600 I can go up a bit if it'll be a nice boost in performance
What is your resolution?
1680 x 1050 currently, planning to move up to 1920 x 1080 and stay there
What are you using it for?
Bioshock, Half Life 2, Crysis, a little bit of SC2
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 - 5 years
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next couple of weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No sir.
Do you need an Operating System?
I have one ^.^
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't plan to do that.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a nearby Frys and Newegg are my resources.
Also if possible I was wondering if the HDD could be forfeit in favor of a SSD, I have an external and a spare harddrive with me so if a 128+ GB SSD can find itself in the budget I would appreciate it but if it competes with performance too much then let me know. Thanks in advance fellas. Barring deals: DVD: Asus DVD thing $3 off @ $16 with promo code EMCXNWM68: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Case: Antec New Solution VSK-3000@ $29.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129186 or a Fractal Design Core 3000 for ~$34.49: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 & promo EMCXNWP226 PSU: Corsair CX430M @ $49.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 which is only like $5 more than the non modular version, so why not. RAM: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193Mobo: Asrock B75M @$50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157362CPU: i3-3220 @ $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @ $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $185: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025Total: $599.92 with Antec, + $5 with the Fractal Design case There may be deals around that I haven't found, but this will certainly work. I think the i3-3220 with hyperthreading should prevent any CPU bound scenarios with games of that caliber (except SC2, but that's not your focus) so it should be fine. Oh, and double post oops Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it. I was thinking I would remove the dvd drive because I honestly don't remember the last time I used one on my current pc. I was also wondering if it would be ok to swap out the RAM you suggested: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193For these instead: G.Skill 1600 8GB (2x4) @$72: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428I know I'm going a bit over budget with that but I think it'll be worth it. I don't think it affects any component choices but my housemate has convinced me to start up on DOTA 2 as well. Thanks again for helping me out and if you have any more suggestions I would like to hear them. If you want to go over budget than you should probably consider a core i5 since iirc, Bioshock and Crysis does make use of quad cores. And the 7870 requires two PCIe connectors while the CX430 only has one so you're going to have to use an adapter which sort of eliminates the point of having a modular unit. If you want 8gb, get these instead for ~$64 with promo code GSKILLSAVE10: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666Get the CPU in a combo with something, typically motherboard or GPU.
Thanks a lot for the suggestions; how about this setup:
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 @$40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032
PSU: Corsair CX500M @$60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050
RAM: G.Skill 2400 (2x4) @$63 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666
MOBO: MSI Z77A LGA 1155 @$95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 @$207 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-3570-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B0087EVHTE/
SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @$100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188
GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $170: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025
Totals to $735
I think at this point my concerns are that a 500W PSU is too much, and that the motherboard correctly fits the case. Heat shouldn't be a problem since I'm not overclocking anything right? Thanks again for your input Alryk and skyR.
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On July 20 2013 08:37 poor newb wrote:building new computer from scratch, looking for most bang for buck, thanks in advance What is your budget?~$1500 USD with monitor and speaker, willing to pay more if the extra money is worth it + Show Spoiler +What is your resolution?
1920x1080 single monitor, will consider adding second monitor in the future
What are you using it for?
gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
maybe in 4-5 years
When do you plan on building it?
very soon
Do you plan on overclocking?
willing to try
Do you need an Operating System?
no
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
maybe when upgrading in the future
Where are you buying your parts from?
sites that sell and ship to US
i5-4670k - $235
Gigabyte z87x-d3h - $137
HR-02 Macho - $53
Sapphire 7950 - $270
Kingston HyperX Black 2x4gb - $57
Bit Fenix Ghost - $70
XFX Core 550w - $56
Samsung 840 256gb - $165
Seagate Barracuda 2TB - $90
DVD-burner - $15
SubTotal: $1150
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You might notice there's a ton of sales above. Next week the same configuration might be a bit more expensive. Continuing on the theme, us.ncix.com has a pretty good deal for a Benq xl2420t monitor right now @ $300. The xl2420t is a 24" 1920x1080 120hz monitor (w/o speakers if I remember correctly). Alternatively you could go for one of the best 1920x1080 60hz options: the ASUS mx239h @ $228. A 23" 1920x1080 IPS monitor (w/speakers), the mx239h is going to have an excellent display but isn't capable of 120hz. Then again, if you were planning on getting a bigger, seriously expensive monitor later (not sure what you meant by considering adding a second monitor in the future) or just didn't want to spend as much money, you can still get a high-quality screen an a BenQ gw2450hm $160. A 24" 1920x1080 A-MVA (similar to IPS in that it's better than your average cheap TN monitor) 60hz monitor w/speakers.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66305&vpn=XL2420T&manufacture=BenQ&promoid=1311
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236310
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=69380&vpn=GW2450HM&manufacture=BenQ&promoid=1311
Totals:
w/BenQ xl2420t: $1450 (no speakers in this build)
w/ASUS mx239h: $1380 (speakers in monitor)
w/BenQ gw2450hm: $1310 (speakers in monitor)
The processor is basically as good as it gets for gaming. I selected the overclocking version (with associated motherboard & CPU cooler), so you can get the extra performance if you want to put in the time to do so (basically $100 extra cost). Because of your budget I've chosen fairly high quality components (you could go cheaper with a bit less luxury but no real loss in basic functionality). You could get a stronger video card (a 7970 should be $350), but a 7950 is already quite high-end and I wanted to make sure you had room for quality monitor & speakers.
The only reason I see you might want to go over your budget is to fit in a 27" 2560x1440 monitor, but for that you'd have to go over by more than a little bit.
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On July 20 2013 19:12 Rabid.wolf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 20 2013 12:49 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 12:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 19 2013 22:09 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2013 11:34 Rabid.wolf wrote:
What is your budget?
Around $600 I can go up a bit if it'll be a nice boost in performance
What is your resolution?
1680 x 1050 currently, planning to move up to 1920 x 1080 and stay there
What are you using it for?
Bioshock, Half Life 2, Crysis, a little bit of SC2
What is your upgrade cycle?
4 - 5 years
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next couple of weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No sir.
Do you need an Operating System?
I have one ^.^
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't plan to do that.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have a nearby Frys and Newegg are my resources.
Also if possible I was wondering if the HDD could be forfeit in favor of a SSD, I have an external and a spare harddrive with me so if a 128+ GB SSD can find itself in the budget I would appreciate it but if it competes with performance too much then let me know. Thanks in advance fellas. Barring deals: DVD: Asus DVD thing $3 off @ $16 with promo code EMCXNWM68: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 Case: Antec New Solution VSK-3000@ $29.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129186 or a Fractal Design Core 3000 for ~$34.49: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032 & promo EMCXNWP226 PSU: Corsair CX430M @ $49.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 which is only like $5 more than the non modular version, so why not. RAM: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193Mobo: Asrock B75M @$50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157362CPU: i3-3220 @ $130: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @ $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $185: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025Total: $599.92 with Antec, + $5 with the Fractal Design case There may be deals around that I haven't found, but this will certainly work. I think the i3-3220 with hyperthreading should prevent any CPU bound scenarios with games of that caliber (except SC2, but that's not your focus) so it should be fine. Oh, and double post oops Thanks a lot for the help I really appreciate it. I was thinking I would remove the dvd drive because I honestly don't remember the last time I used one on my current pc. I was also wondering if it would be ok to swap out the RAM you suggested: G.Skill 1600 4GB (2x2) @ $37: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193For these instead: G.Skill 1600 8GB (2x4) @$72: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428I know I'm going a bit over budget with that but I think it'll be worth it. I don't think it affects any component choices but my housemate has convinced me to start up on DOTA 2 as well. Thanks again for helping me out and if you have any more suggestions I would like to hear them. If you want to go over budget than you should probably consider a core i5 since iirc, Bioshock and Crysis does make use of quad cores. And the 7870 requires two PCIe connectors while the CX430 only has one so you're going to have to use an adapter which sort of eliminates the point of having a modular unit. If you want 8gb, get these instead for ~$64 with promo code GSKILLSAVE10: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666Get the CPU in a combo with something, typically motherboard or GPU. Thanks a lot for the suggestions; how about this setup: Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 @$40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352032PSU: Corsair CX500M @$60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050RAM: G.Skill 2400 (2x4) @$63 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666MOBO: MSI Z77A LGA 1155 @$95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 @$207 http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-3570-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B0087EVHTE/SSD: Samsung 840 120GB @$100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188GPU: Sapphire 7870 @ $170: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202025Totals to $735 I think at this point my concerns are that a 500W PSU is too much, and that the motherboard correctly fits the case. Heat shouldn't be a problem since I'm not overclocking anything right? Thanks again for your input Alryk and skyR.
That's a Fractal Design Core 1000 that you linked. The Fractal Design Core 3000 is like $60. Just stick with the Fractal Design Core 1000 for ~$34 unless you no longer are sticking to budget and want to move up then get a Fractal Design Define R4 for $80.
Mail in rebates aren't instant discounts that are counted in your check-out total, just so you know that. If you're going by mail in rebates, it's going to be much more expensive at check-out but you'll (or may) get your money back eventually over the span of six months.
If you want to do mail in rebates than the Corsair TX650 is better with EMCXNWPP33 promo code, at $60 after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 If not doing mail in rebates than the Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better at $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
No reason to get a core i5 3570 at $209 when Newegg has the 4670 for $210 with promo code, get the 4670 with 7870 in this bundle and apply promo code COMPNTSAL23 for $380 ($365 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1355700
Get the MSI B85M-G43 for $72 with promo code EMCXNWP229: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130700
The Samsung 840 120gb is cheaper at Amazon.
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Why a 660 when 770's are the same price and better?
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