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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 16:52:08
July 25 2013 16:10 GMT
#31901
Yes, but I don't need this cooler just yet. Got some spare cash for that but ultimately I want it for when I save for some k i5 and OC it.

I'll think on it some more and see what I can scrap up.

Edit: What processors and mobos I have available in this price range (help me choose the best combination) from what I could get at the store (have to be this store) by the end of next week:

CPU

Intel Core i5-4570S, Quad Core, 2.90GHz, 6MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 65W, VGA, TRAY
Intel Core i5-4570T, Dual Core, 2.90GHz, 4MB, LGA1150, 22mm, 35W, VGA, TRAY
Intel Core i5-4570, Quad Core, 3.20GHz, 6MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 84W, VGA, BOX
Intel Core i5-4570, Quad Core, 3.20GHz, 6MB, LGA1150, 22nm, 84W, VGA, TRAY

Mobo

ASRock B85M PRO4
ASRock B85 PRO4
ASRock Z87 PRO3 (more expensive)
Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3
Gigabyte GA-Z87M-HD3 (more expensive)
MSI B85-G41 PC MATE
MSI B85-G43
MSI B85M-P33

Also, what would be the minimum safe PSU output to run this with single HD7870 at full load? I think I can cut some corners on the PSU and just sell it later and get a better one when I'll be getting another gpu.

Edit: @Ropid (below): I'll keep that in mind
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 16:43:22
July 25 2013 16:41 GMT
#31902
@Manit0u:

Please look at a different cooler. The Shadow Rock Pro SR1 looks good on paper, but it's inexplicably falling behind similar coolers in practice. This makes it a pretty bad choice with its rather high price.

You might get Zalman CNPS14x or Thermalright HR-02 Macho for cheaper. Both would be quite a bit stronger, good enough to make any upgrade not worth it when you go Intel and overclock in the future.

If you want to stay 120mm fan size, you could look at Thermalright True Spirit 120 or True Spirit 120M or Macho 120, Zalman CNPS10x Optima or Performa, CM Hyper 212 + or Evo, Scythe Mugen. All of those are cheaper than the Dark Rock Pro while still being better, I'm pretty sure. Some might be loud.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17665 Posts
July 25 2013 17:07 GMT
#31903
Intel Core i5-4570T, Dual Core, 2.90GHz, 4MB, LGA1150, 22mm, 35W, VGA, TRAY
Arctic-Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2
Gigabyte GA-B85M-HD3
Patriot 2 X 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM kit with Heatsink
Western Digital Caviar Black, 3.5'', 1TB, SATA/600, 7200RPM, 64MB cache
ASUS HD7870-DC2TG-2GD5-V2 Radeon HD 7870, 2GB DDR5 (256 Bit), HDMI
be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER BQT E9-400W
Carbide Series™ 300R Case

Managed to get this setup around the same price. Any other suggested tweaks?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 17:14:46
July 25 2013 17:13 GMT
#31904
the i5-4570T sucks, its basicly an i3 (2cores and hyperthreading)
best go with an i5-4570

edit : and if you really want a setup to OC later on, why not get a G2020 and Z87 motherboard? that way you only have to change cpu and cooler, will cost you less
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 25 2013 17:16 GMT
#31905
On July 26 2013 02:13 Rachnar wrote:
edit : and if you really want a setup to OC later on, why not get a G2020 and Z87 motherboard? that way you only have to change cpu and cooler, will cost you less


None of the pentiums are compatible with the 1150 socket motherboards yet.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Risljaninasim
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands228 Posts
July 25 2013 17:29 GMT
#31906
Hey there,

Any recommendations for an SSD? I'd like 256gb (or higher if possible). My budget is 200 euros. I don't really know which SSD's are good so i'm asking here, I want to get the best of what's available in my budget. Thanks!
;;
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 17:34:10
July 25 2013 17:31 GMT
#31907
True true my bad, forgot...how stupid can i be sometimes, won't be here before september

Sorry if this has already been mentionned then, but why not get the k and Z87, use integrated for now, and get a dedicated gpu later on? It'll save you money in the longrun, or you could spend more later on a more powerfull gpu then you originally intended if you want to play more demanding games or w/e



For SSD, Crucial M4(older)/M500, Samsung Series 840/830(older), Intel, OCZ agility 4/vertex 4, Plextor

only take the older models if they're significantly cheaper (like 15% cheaper or more)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 18:41:29
July 25 2013 18:24 GMT
#31908
Hi again,
Sorry for bugging you once more, but I'm having a hard time deciding on a motherboard for i5-3570k (mid tower atx case, need usb 3.0, decent onboard sound is a +; 1600mhz ram) in $100 price range.
So far I think about going for this one @ $106:
ASUS P8Z77-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Amazon reviews were good but then i looked at newegg and they aren't so hot, so I'm not sure anymore..

Also what's the difference between i5-3570k and i5-4570k
nm read that 4570k is on a different socket, not sure if it is worth it because I doubt that processor will be upgraded in next 3years. My budget for mobo + cpu is about $330, any recommendations?
Sorry and thanks again, wanna make sure I make a good choice
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 18:41:55
July 25 2013 18:41 GMT
#31909
There is no such thing as a 4570k, you either mean the 4570 or 4670k.

There is also no such thing as being more futureproof since LGA1150 will be dead soon.

For the 3570k, get the Asrock Z77 Extreme3 from Newegg for $85. If you want to do mail in rebates than there's the Gigabyte Z77 HD3, HD4, and MSI Z77 G45 for all under $110 before mail in rebates.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 18:53:26
July 25 2013 18:42 GMT
#31910
4670k, see why I need help? they might be overclocking later after all, but that's not a must have. Looking for a price efficient/stable i5 + mobo combo, whichever i5 you think is best.

I can afford the $110 options, if they are more reliable +$25 is no biggie. Which one would you recommend out of those choices? I'll be buying as soon as we settle on something so shouldn't bug you for much longer:D
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 25 2013 19:03 GMT
#31911
I would just get the Asrock Z77 Extreme3 unless you're worried about their warranty. Otherwise I'd get Gigabyte. Though I would suggest just spending $30 more for a 4670k and Z87.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
July 25 2013 19:19 GMT
#31912
Which Z87 board would you suggest?
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Big Monkey
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom473 Posts
July 25 2013 19:23 GMT
#31913
On July 25 2013 03:13 Myrmidon wrote:
aria.co.uk is one of the okay e-tailers in UK as far as I know. They have an okay selection of components for normal builds going piece by piece, and special prices are decent. To be honest, I've heard of complaints about ebuyer and scan, which are a bit larger I think, so I have no idea really.

I gave the wrong link earlier... or rather, you need to click the special web-only price part to get the £300 (inc. VAT).
http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other products/Gladiator G2020-HD7770 Intel 2.90GHz Dual-Core Next Day Gaming PC ?productId=54929


Thanks for the link, i bought it this morning. Hopefully arrives tomorrow

Thanks again for all the helps
I smell revival, dead bones coming alive again
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 25 2013 19:27 GMT
#31914
On July 26 2013 04:19 iokke wrote:
Which Z87 board would you suggest?


Probably the Gigabyte Z87-HD3 or Z87M-D3H.

Are you just buying motherboard and processor, or every other component as well?
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 19:55:26
July 25 2013 19:34 GMT
#31915
Everything but we already picked out & I ordered other components a few pages ago:

Case $50 - Rosewell U3 Midtower Case
OEM 1TB HD + DVD Burner Combo $77 - WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" + Asus drw
RAM $70 - Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (single stick)
PSU $42 ($20AR) - CORSAIR Builder Series CX430m 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC

Bought it all for around $230 iirc

my price for i3570k + ASRock z77 extreme 3 = $311 shipped
Price for i4670k + Gigabyte GA-Z87M-D3H = $355 shipped (didn't account earlier for stupid amazon taxes). I'll read some reviews for both but I think I'll go with i3570k for $45 cheaper after all. Thank you again for everything skyR
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 25 2013 19:54 GMT
#31916
You bought a single 8 GB stick (send it back before you open it).

A 2x4GB kit enables "dual channel" mode and doubles memory bandwidth.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 20:05:23
July 25 2013 19:57 GMT
#31917
On July 26 2013 04:54 Ropid wrote:
You bought a single 8 GB stick (send it back before you open it).

A 2x4GB kit enables "dual channel" mode and doubles memory bandwidth.


oh I bought it so they can later upgrade by adding another 8gb stick. Nothing was opened yet and since I doubt they will upgrade anytime soon should I get 2x4GB? crap
they have this one on sale for $65. will make up for cost of return shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-145-345
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 25 2013 20:09 GMT
#31918
This is better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231666
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 25 2013 20:10 GMT
#31919
The kit will only use half the slots as there's four slots on a normal board so you can still upgrade later.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-25 20:42:41
July 25 2013 20:14 GMT
#31920
Will do thanks guys.
Edit: just ordered everything, I'll let you know how it goes
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
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