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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
I also replaced my Corsair k60 keyboard with a k70. Both are Cherry MX Reds, but the k70 is much quieter when typing and has a backlight. Mostly I just did it because the other one has ghosting. I might still RMA the other one. | ||
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S3ph
Germany76 Posts
45 € Savu against 17 € Xornet... is a pretty much easy decision. Right? About headset: Id better stick to my old 5.1 system from Logitech and give up on headset. The mousepad is QcK+ and is ok. | ||
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Gortakom
United States17 Posts
His current rig is from 2010ish(?), Alienware Aurora R2 with the following specs (what I can glean from him): Mobo: Alienware Approved Intel P55 MicroATX Motherboard (Standard) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5670 PSU: Alienware 525 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply RAM: 8 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24) His internet connection: ping 11ms, 17 down, 19 up Please let me know if you need any additional information.Thanks for the suggestions. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On June 20 2013 18:41 S3ph wrote: Holy balls, I havent taken Xornet into consideration... 45 € Savu against 17 € Xornet... is a pretty much easy decision. Right? About headset: Id better stick to my old 5.1 system from Logitech and give up on headset. The mousepad is QcK+ and is ok. I heard the Xornet in particular performs better on the puretrak talent (different color) and i was going to be getting one if/one i got an xornet, but i'm not sure if it's a small difference or a really big one, just thought i'd mention it. Xornet seems to be a great cheap mouse, but dont expect flawless (you only have 500/1000/2000dpi selection for example) and there might be some small issues, but it's great for a mouse you can pick up for 17 euro On June 21 2013 00:58 Gortakom wrote: My friend wants to upgrade his PC to improve his stream. He has approximately $400 to spend. He is US and has access to a Microcenter. His current rig is from 2010ish(?), Alienware Aurora R2 with the following specs (what I can glean from him): Mobo: Alienware Approved Intel P55 MicroATX Motherboard (Standard) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5670 PSU: Alienware 525 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply RAM: 8 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24) His internet connection: ping 11ms, 17 down, 19 up Please let me know if you need any additional information.Thanks for the suggestions. Probably wants a locked i5 (4xxx, 3xxx if it's significantly cheaper but i wouldn't go with it for 10% less) with non overclocking motherboard | ||
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S3ph
Germany76 Posts
On June 21 2013 01:41 Cyro wrote: I heard the Xornet in particular performs better on the puretrak talent (different color) and i was going to be getting one if/one i got an xornet, but i'm not sure if it's a small difference or a really big one, just thought i'd mention it. Xornet seems to be a great cheap mouse, but dont expect flawless (you only have 500/1000/2000dpi selection for example) and there might be some small issues, but it's great for a mouse you can pick up for 17 euro. I had today a day off and I spent some hours reading about mice. Unfortunately Xornet is no longer my choice. Except the steppings of already mentioned 500-1000-2000, there are other problems with it. So I'll stick with Savu. Expences are good and nice, but if I wont be able to enjoy the mouse, all the money wont matter at all. About 5.1 system: i have a misc 5.1 sound card, but I might be needing a better one, maybe with amp. We'll see.  | ||
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ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
Uses: SC2 (overkill, I know), New FPS games, CUDA programming. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
As for the 760, the reference design was published Tuesday (no price/release date): http://videocardz.com/43048/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-final-specs-unveiled EVGA detailed their offerings as well: http://videocardz.com/43101/evga-geforce-gtx-760-lineup-detailed The other major brands will probably release their info soon. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
The gigabyte windforce is an awesome model and it's on sale in the UK this week (first i checked, scan had it at ~£329, OCUK threw it up at that price for an entire week) which is great, it's like $55 off, and windforce is one of the best models i think (though not certain how customer support/rma etc is between all of the companies) Look at the cheaper ones, google around for cooler reviews on that card and how good X manufacturer (gigabyte, evga, msi etc) is with RMA's and customer support etc, and if the individual model has any issues. I dont think you have to bother a lot though, most of the cards (especially if you don't just buy the cheapest one) should be completely fine Edit: Sniped But the 760 i think i heard we were getting a 760 and a 760ti, that were slotting in to replace to replace the 660ti and 670, those specs dont seem to match up though. I heard 760 release at the end of this month for a while | ||
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Gortakom
United States17 Posts
My friend wants to upgrade his PC to improve his stream. He has approximately $400 to spend. He is US and has access to a Microcenter. His current rig is from 2010ish(?), Alienware Aurora R2 with the following specs (what I can glean from him): Mobo: Alienware Approved Intel P55 MicroATX Motherboard (Standard) CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5670 PSU: Alienware 525 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply RAM: 8 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24) His internet connection: ping 11ms, 17 down, 19 up Please let me know if you need any additional information.Thanks for the suggestions. On June 21 2013 01:41 Cyro wrote: Probably wants a locked i5 (4xxx, 3xxx if it's significantly cheaper but i wouldn't go with it for 10% less) with non overclocking motherboard Thanks for responding Cyro, Just to be completely clear, you mean something like: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz http://www.microcenter.com/product/413255/Intel_Core_i5-4570_32GHz_Boxed_Processor Also, would you (or anyone else) mind suggesting any specific CPU / Mobo combinations that would be compatible with his other parts, provide the best "bang for his buck," and fall within his price range (~$400)? Much appreciated, thanks again. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
So any socket 1150 mATX motherboard. MiniITX is okay too, but that's more expensive for something with less features. At MC that means one of these, seeing as the others are more expensive: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414949/H87M_Pro4_Socket_LGA_1150_mATX_Intel_Motherboard http://www.microcenter.com/product/414769/B85M-E-CSM_Socket_LGA_1150_B85_mATX_Intel_Motherboard Does he have a Windows license that can be used? I forget how it works with new motherboards these days if you get a system from an OEM. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
edit: Sniped http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18521571 ^H100 pretty much a steal for anyone in UK. I think you usually have longer warranty though? And stay away from the h60/h80 i think. I totally didn't steal this from Gumbi though. H100i is of course a bit better, probably comes with longer warranty and has the software, but it costs 2.6x as much. Yknow what's better than one h100i? + Show Spoiler + Three h100's | ||
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Niten
United States598 Posts
Case: Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gunmetal Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard PCU: Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770 Storage: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) * Plus the HDD in my current desktop Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL ODD: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM Video Card: EVGA SuperClocked 03G-P4-2666-KR GeForce GTX 660 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Power Supply: XFX Core Edition PRO850W (P1-850S-NLB9) 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply I have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and a copy of MS Windows Budget: $1,250 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
So there's a hardcore competitive overclocking benchmark-type of motherboard with a processor that can't be more than marginally overclocked. And for that matter, a last-generation processor. Why? And why an i7? What's "general" mean? Most things people do don't benefit from a desktop i7 over an i5. 16 GB of RAM is way more than necessary (as in, provides zero benefit other than more profits to the manufacturer) for gaming as well as for most "general" tasks unless that means something like running a bunch of virtual machines for something or heavy video editing. Factory OC version of a video card usually costs more without too much benefit. You can overclock graphics cards yourself. I forget—is it possible to 3x SLI GTX 660s? I don't think so? (And you wouldn't want to anyway.) Even if you had three, you wouldn't come close to the capacity of the power supply, so why do you want that one? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 21 2013 11:29 Niten wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hey guys, I'd like to see if you guys have any advice for a build I'm planning. I've put the parts below in a good manner I hope. This currently perfectly fits the budget I have. I only had the goal of building a strong general/gaming desktop. I had advice on building it from a fiend and want to see if you guys see anything out-of-place. Thanks! Case: Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gunmetal Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard PCU: Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770 Storage: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) * Plus the HDD in my current desktop Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBXL ODD: LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) - OEM Video Card: EVGA SuperClocked 03G-P4-2666-KR GeForce GTX 660 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Power Supply: XFX Core Edition PRO850W (P1-850S-NLB9) 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply I have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and a copy of MS Windows Budget: $1,250 Games don't utilize hyperthreading so getting a core i7 over a core i5 is a waste of money. It is unclear whether you will be overclocking or not as you have a non-K suffix processor paired with a Z77 motherboard. Non-K suffix processors don't have an unlocked multiplier for overclocking so they should be paired with H or B series boards that do not allow for overclocking. A K suffix processor is required for overclocking and should be paired with Z series boards. 16gb of memory is unnecessary for gaming. A 850w power supply is unnecessary for a mid-range SLI configuration and even more unnecessary for a mid-range single card system. You never mentioned the games you intend to play or the resolution you will be playing at. But for the most part, a GTX 660 3gb is a waste of money. All in all, your friend gave poor advice. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
A overclocking motherboard with a locked processor? Wasted money. Even funnier is that it's an i7, especially since I bet you don't know what the difference between i7 and i5 is (hint hint its HT, and it does nothing for gaming) 16GB of ram is 2x too much A 850w psu for a system that might pull 250w, yeah waste. Case is meh. Your friend is very misinformed unfortunately and he's wasting your money. Answer the questionnaire in the OP and we'll happily put together a much better list. + Show Spoiler [The Questionnaire] + Important questions you should ask yourself If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered. What is your budget? This should be an obvious one, you should determine a price range that best describes how much you want to spend on your build. It makes it easier for people to make recommendations. What is your resolution? This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming? Some gaming with video encoding mixed in? Photoshop? Streaming? All this matters, you can end up spending a lot of money and not be able to do anything you wanted to or you can spend a lot of money on stuff you don't even want to do. What is your upgrade cycle? Knowing the answer to this question makes it easier for people to recommend CPU sockets and GPUs so you get the most for your money. A person with a longer upgrade (2+ years) cycle will probably end up spending more initially but end up saving more at the expense of some performance. On the other hand a person with a shorter upgrade cycle (1 - 2 years) wants to spend less initially so they can put more money toward their next build. When do you plan on building it? Computer parts shift in prices often. With the release of new products, exist prices may drop further. Even without the release of new prices, changes in supply can affect the price of a specific part. The HD 5850 was supposed to retail at the $260 mark, but in a mere 4-5 months after its release it climbed to top $300 for basic reference models. Do you plan on overclocking? If you plan on overclocking, the motherboard choice and heatsink choice will be affected. Enthusiast overclocking requires enthusiast heatsinks and at least a stable motherboard. A simple budget Foxconn motherboard will not be adequate for your overclocking needs! Do you need an Operating System? An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components. Where are you buying your parts from? If you have a nearby Fry's or Microcenter you can utilize their deals. If you're in Europe you obviously cannot use Newegg/Fry's/Microcenter so we need to know where you are from to put together a list of parts from a website or area you can actually buy from. If you can't answer these questions, make sure you can answer them before you ask us to help you put together a list of parts for you. Every single question affects the build we will put together for you greatly so make sure you can answer them accurately! edit: gah I'm slow. | ||
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Niten
United States598 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Niten
United States598 Posts
My budget has a hard cap of $1,250. Thankfully, I don't need a monitor, keyboard/mouse, or an OS as I own a copy of Windows7 professional. My goal is to get as much computing power as I can for my budget. This is my first time building a PC, so I hope you'll bear with my ignorance. Resolution: 1900 by 1080 (am I answering right?) PC Usage: I'll be using for both work and fun. I'll try here to list diverse and demanding activities I might do: photo editing, gaming, some video editing, MS office activities, and streaming. For gaming, because I suppose I should say more here, I'm not all-out bonkers for ULTRA everything - for me it's about the smooth and chill gaming experience (the jack/coke gaming exp, I suppose  ) That said, I would downplay graphics to keep the game as responsive as possible. Sample of recent games: SC2, Civ5, Witcher2, Remember Me, Tomb RaiderUpgrade Cycle: 2002 (laptop), 2008 (laptop), 2013 (PC).... 5-6 years, I suppose. Build Time: I have the money and time this summer. I think at the latest I want to have built the PC by mid-July as I'm moving and my wife will need my current PC for work. Overclocking: I've never had a machine to OC with. This is my first time venturing out of pre-built PCs (Dell, HP, Toshiba). Maybe not initially (bc I don't know how), but down the line I think so. Operating System: I already have a Win7 Pro from years ago grad school. SLI/Crossfire Plans: I don't know that I need it for my purposes or that it fits within my budget. It sounds cool tho! Part Buying: I was planning to buy parts all off of Newegg. I live in New York City. Thanks for your help! | ||
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sechkie
United States334 Posts
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