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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 11 2013 05:09 GMT
#27481
It's quite frustrating because I don't really have a way of gauging whether a higher response lag would bother me or not, but I want pretty much all of the other categories.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2013 05:12 GMT
#27482
Just get a U2713HM and return it if you don't like it.
azngamer828
Profile Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
February 11 2013 15:27 GMT
#27483
On February 11 2013 13:51 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 13:19 azngamer828 wrote:
I was wondering if you guys could help me how much watts i need to build a custom desktop.
right now, i am thinking with these:
processor: i5-3570k ivy bridge
motherboard: asus P8 z77 V-pro
RAM: 8gb 1600 speed 2×4gb/stick or 16gb Patriot Viper 3 @ 1866
*** i probably will only need 8gb huh? can you help me decide which is more preferred

for now these are my options:
Kingwin 600watt
OCZ 600 watt
Thermal Take TR2 600 watt
Corsair CX500 watt
Corsair CX750 watt
Corsair GS 800 watt

much appreciation for everyone that helps :D
Thank You~!

Where are you buying from? The list is atrocious so far, as is the list of powersupplies.

EDIT: And you've spent a lot of money on the ability to overclock your cpu but you don't even have a cooler. Are you even going to overclock?


well im sorry that im not as tech savvy as you
the powersupplies that are listed are just those that my friend is giving to me so i was only thinking that i wouldnt have to buy one. also i did not SPEND a lot of money because i was only THINKING about it.
but to answer your question, no im not going to overclock it.
Pew Pew
azngamer828
Profile Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
February 11 2013 15:31 GMT
#27484
On February 11 2013 13:29 skyR wrote:
For gaming, you will only need 2x4gb @ 1600MHz. The ASUS P8Z77-V Pro is also a high-end board that would probably be a total waste of money for you.

Kingwin doesn't have any good 600w units.

OCZ has multiple 600w units, all of which are old and bad by today's standards.

Thermaltake TR2 is bad.

CX500 is shit compared to your motherboard choice. CX750 is overkill. GS is overkill.


the power supplies were going to be given to me by a friend so for now i was going to use one of these and later by a better one.
but in your opinion, which would be a pick if you had to choose?
how much watts do you i think i actually will need if im not going to overclock?
which brand do you recommend for psu?
Thanks for your help :D
Pew Pew
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 17:12:01
February 11 2013 15:38 GMT
#27485
On February 11 2013 13:19 azngamer828 wrote:
I was wondering if you guys could help me how much watts i need to build a custom desktop.
right now, i am thinking with these:
processor: i5-3570k ivy bridge
motherboard: asus P8 z77 V-pro
RAM: 8gb 1600 speed 2×4gb/stick or 16gb Patriot Viper 3 @ 1866
*** i probably will only need 8gb huh? can you help me decide which is more preferred

for now these are my options:
Kingwin 600watt
OCZ 600 watt
Thermal Take TR2 600 watt
Corsair CX500 watt
Corsair CX750 watt
Corsair GS 800 watt

much appreciation for everyone that helps :D
Thank You~!


I'd recommend filling out the questionnaire in the OP when you're ready to buy. As for PSU, what you need depends on what you're planning to build. An Intel system with a single graphics card (including overclocks on both) will do fine with any quality 450w. The issue is that you want a quality PSU.

Can't tell the best choice from your list. There are some decent Kingwins, there are some crap Kingwins. Same with OCZ. Stay away from the Thermaltake. The Corsair CX500 is probably the one you want to use. The other two corrsairs are kind of silly-overpowered. Nevermind. What Myrmidon says below.

P.S. If you're not going to overclock, you really should revamp your planned parts list. It'll save you a bunch of money.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
SoulWager
Profile Joined August 2010
United States464 Posts
February 11 2013 16:41 GMT
#27486
Can't really recommend a PSU unless we know what video card(s) he's using.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 16:49:04
February 11 2013 16:48 GMT
#27487
All of those are enough for the video card, unless maybe it's a dual-GPU model, where the CX500 would be a little on the low side.

CX750 is the best-performing one of the bunch, unless the GS800 is the new version (flat slats fan grille, plastic color piece, 80 plus bronze). It's definitely an upgrade over some CWT DSA for the CX500. Like skyR mentioned earlier, none of the good Kingwins and OCZs are 600W. The Thermaltake could be okay if it's the newer 80 plus bronze model (TR-600P). Massive overkill wattage is not a problem other than (1) cost, (2) too many cables, and (3) relatively bad low-load efficiency. But a few percentage points of efficiency is no big deal, and these are being gotten free, or?
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
February 11 2013 16:52 GMT
#27488
750W enough for a overclocked i5 2500k (4.7ghz) and crossfired 7950s?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 11 2013 16:57 GMT
#27489
On February 12 2013 01:52 RiSkyToss wrote:
750W enough for a overclocked i5 2500k (4.7ghz) and crossfired 7950s?

Yes, with room to spare if the "750W" can properly do 750W.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 16:59:31
February 11 2013 16:58 GMT
#27490
750W is way more than enough, yes. Even under heavy load you're looking at maybe 500w of power demand max with that setup; this would stress the rating efficiency of, say, the CX500, but you're nowhere near your limits with a 750.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
February 11 2013 17:00 GMT
#27491
It's an OCZ 750W, dont remember exactly the model.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 11 2013 17:03 GMT
#27492
Whether it's OCZ ZS, ZT, or Fatal1ty, it's fine. They don't have another 750W. These are all significantly better than the possible models that could have been 600W above.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 17:08:59
February 11 2013 17:07 GMT
#27493
Awesome, thanks for the help, idk whether this is the correct place but i've been having some recent driver problems with my 7950, if i even overclock it a tiny bit it just becomes unstable, even when the temperatures never go above 60.

Is there any way of fixing this other than just sitting and waiting for AMD to release some decent drivers? ( i have updated them, fyi, it normally becomes unstable when watching multiple streams or even just a youtube video.. )
azngamer828
Profile Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
February 11 2013 17:10 GMT
#27494
On February 12 2013 01:41 SoulWager wrote:
Can't really recommend a PSU unless we know what video card(s) he's using.


sorry about that, guess i forgot to add that haha
i was thinking of using an MSI/Gigabyte gtx 650 2gb gddr5
Pew Pew
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 21:19:17
February 11 2013 21:17 GMT
#27495
double sorry
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 20:51:30
February 11 2013 21:18 GMT
#27496
So my Bday is coming up and I haven't bought a new setup in a while. I am just currently using a laptop. I want to make my on CPU (no experience but I am pretty tech savy in general).

Budget- Around 1k might not even need that much because I just play on playing games at high-max quality with high FPS.
Resolution- 1920x1080 and upgrade to 2560x1440 later on.
Mostly for high end gaming.
Upgrade cycle- My last 2 laptops lasted about 3 years. So I would say about 3 years full overhaul buying and upgrading some parts here and there.
When? A week to a month depending on how easy this is
Overclocking? Not sure. If it's recommended than sure. If I can get max performance on most games without it than there is no need.
OS- Might be able to get college discount.
Xfire/SLI - No idea what that is lol.
Where am I buying? I plan to get most from newegg unless I can find better deals somewhere else.

I have been looking at upperbounds setup and stole a few parts I liked from that. Remember I am completely new at this so I need a lot of help. I honestly just want to be able to play most games at max settings with great FPS. I also will upgrade to 120hz (maybe some 3d movies but not too much 3d gaming) monitor later so keep that in mind. I am mostly looking for my best bang for my buck while being ready to upgrade to newer parts easily.

So far I got this

Case- Cooler Master HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 (59$)
CPU- Intel Core i5-3570K(219$)
Mobo- GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H (149$)
RAM - Kingston HyperX KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX 8GB Desktop Memory Kit(44$)
SSD- or HDD?Kingston SH103S3/120G HyperX 120GB Solid State Drive and Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB Serial ATA Hard Drive
Video Card-
Heatsink- Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-GP Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler30$
PSU- Ultra LSP750 750-Watt Power Supply64$

895$ so far without checking for best deals yet
Thanks a lot for all the help. Sorry but I am new at this. :D
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
February 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#27497
On February 12 2013 02:10 azngamer828 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 01:41 SoulWager wrote:
Can't really recommend a PSU unless we know what video card(s) he's using.


sorry about that, guess i forgot to add that haha
i was thinking of using an MSI/Gigabyte gtx 650 2gb gddr5


dont get a gtx 650 2gb

it costs more then the 1gb variant for nothing

for a bit more then that you could even get an hd7850 1gb
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 11 2013 21:26 GMT
#27498
On February 12 2013 06:18 Beardedclam wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So my Bday is coming up and I haven't bought a new setup in a while. I am just currently using a laptop. I want to make my on CPU (no experience but I am pretty tech savy in general).

Budget- Around 1k might not even need that much because I just play on playing games at high-max quality with high FPS.
Resolution- 1920x1080 and upgrade to 2560x1440 later on.
Mostly for high end gaming.
Upgrade cycle- My last 2 laptops lasted about 3 years. So I would say about 3 years full overhaul buying and upgrading some parts here and there.
When? A week to a month depending on how easy this is
Overclocking? Not sure. If it's recommended than sure. If I can get max performance on most games without it than there is no need.
OS- Might be able to get college discount.
Xfire/SLI - No idea what that is lol.
Where am I buying? I plan to get most from newegg unless I can find better deals somewhere else.

I have been looking at upperbounds setup and stole a few parts I liked from that. Remember I am completely new at this so I need a lot of help. I honestly just want to be able to play most games at max settings with great FPS. I also will upgrade to 120hz (maybe some 3d movies but not too much 3d gaming) monitor later so keep that in mind. I am mostly looking for my best bang for my buck while being ready to upgrade to newer parts easily.

So far I got

Case-COOLER MASTER HAF 912
CPU- Not sure what I need. I have an i7 on my laptop but I know desktops are much stronger.
Mobo- Again not sure
RAM - Not sure
SSD- or HDD?
Video Card- + Show Spoiler + But sold out. Any other suggestions?
Heatsink- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212Do I need this?
PSU- Not sure

Thanks a lot for all the help. Sorry but I am new at this. :D


Keep in mind that there are no 120Hz 2560x1440 monitors.

For gaming, you will be looking at either the core i5 3570 and a B75 / H77 motherboard if you will not be overclocking or the core i5 3570k and Z77 motherboard if you are.

2x4gb 1600MHz memory.

An appropriate size SSD (~120gb or ~250gb) depending on how much games / software you want to have on your primary drive and a secondary HDD for storage purposes.

Not sure what video card you were going to link but you'd probably want a 7870 or 7950 for 2560x1440 or 120Hz.

You don't need an aftermarket heatsink like the Hyper 212 if you aren't overclocking.

Power supply will be the Rosewill Capstone 450.
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
February 11 2013 21:41 GMT
#27499
On February 12 2013 06:26 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 06:18 Beardedclam wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So my Bday is coming up and I haven't bought a new setup in a while. I am just currently using a laptop. I want to make my on CPU (no experience but I am pretty tech savy in general).

Budget- Around 1k might not even need that much because I just play on playing games at high-max quality with high FPS.
Resolution- 1920x1080 and upgrade to 2560x1440 later on.
Mostly for high end gaming.
Upgrade cycle- My last 2 laptops lasted about 3 years. So I would say about 3 years full overhaul buying and upgrading some parts here and there.
When? A week to a month depending on how easy this is
Overclocking? Not sure. If it's recommended than sure. If I can get max performance on most games without it than there is no need.
OS- Might be able to get college discount.
Xfire/SLI - No idea what that is lol.
Where am I buying? I plan to get most from newegg unless I can find better deals somewhere else.

I have been looking at upperbounds setup and stole a few parts I liked from that. Remember I am completely new at this so I need a lot of help. I honestly just want to be able to play most games at max settings with great FPS. I also will upgrade to 120hz (maybe some 3d movies but not too much 3d gaming) monitor later so keep that in mind. I am mostly looking for my best bang for my buck while being ready to upgrade to newer parts easily.

So far I got

Case-COOLER MASTER HAF 912
CPU- Not sure what I need. I have an i7 on my laptop but I know desktops are much stronger.
Mobo- Again not sure
RAM - Not sure
SSD- or HDD?
Video Card- + Show Spoiler + But sold out. Any other suggestions?
Heatsink- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212Do I need this?
PSU- Not sure

Thanks a lot for all the help. Sorry but I am new at this. :D


Keep in mind that there are no 120Hz 2560x1440 monitors.

For gaming, you will be looking at either the core i5 3570 and a B75 / H77 motherboard if you will not be overclocking or the core i5 3570k and Z77 motherboard if you are.

2x4gb 1600MHz memory.

An appropriate size SSD (~120gb or ~250gb) depending on how much games / software you want to have on your primary drive and a secondary HDD for storage purposes.

Not sure what video card you were going to link but you'd probably want a 7870 or 7950 for 2560x1440 or 120Hz.

You don't need an aftermarket heatsink like the Hyper 212 if you aren't overclocking.

Power supply will be the Rosewill Capstone 450.


Thanks for the help. Would you recommend overclocking for what I am looking for? Is it worth the extra money for the extra performance or will I not need that much power anyways?
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
azngamer828
Profile Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
February 11 2013 21:57 GMT
#27500
On February 12 2013 06:20 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 02:10 azngamer828 wrote:
On February 12 2013 01:41 SoulWager wrote:
Can't really recommend a PSU unless we know what video card(s) he's using.


sorry about that, guess i forgot to add that haha
i was thinking of using an MSI/Gigabyte gtx 650 2gb gddr5


dont get a gtx 650 2gb

it costs more then the 1gb variant for nothing

for a bit more then that you could even get an hd7850 1gb


this cant really be helped, my friend is giving that to me
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