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On December 15 2012 07:36 Irre wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 05:41 skyR wrote:On December 15 2012 04:37 Irre wrote:
I am sort of considering a new PC at the moment, but the past 2 that I have bought, I looked hard to find similar spec PC buying individual parts vs getting a good price from a site like Ibuypower, and honestly I cannot see a difference in price... I don't know if I'm just not looking in the right places, but I built a PC on Ibuypower, then went and did the same on 2 sites with individual parts from the PC that were similar or identical and it came out the same price. I normally spend about 1100-1300 for a PC. Is there something about Ibuypower that they cheap out on? I'm very satisfied with my current PC from them.. Well it would help if you actually posted your comparison since you're probably doing it wrong. And ya Ibuypower might be comparable if you want the same individual components that won't make a difference (eg. 2GB on a shitty GTX 560 or 1866MHz memory) in gaming. On December 15 2012 05:00 Patrick2810 wrote:
Hi my budget is around £510 and I wont need an optical drive, monitor, or OS
Is this a good build?
CPU: i5 3570K
GPU :Amd Hd Radeon 7850 That's a quarter of the build but ya your quarter build is good given the lack of information you provided. OK just to give a small example I think I customized on Ibuypower something similar to this compuer http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Paladin_D875Its listed at 1579- can get it down to about 1500 with a few tweaks. I tried to build that on tigerdirect..and could not get any cheaper... Now maybe that is the case with the high end stuff, but unless I did something totally wrong I didn't find "building your own" to be much more effective here. If you can find otherwise, I'd definitely be interested to know!
Well if you are trying to make an identical build than yes it's obviously going to be more expensive as I already mentioned but if you actually optimized the build, it would be less expensive and likely better. One of the advantages of building yourself is selecting the components you actually need / want, that's how you end up saving money.
The C70 Military Green is like $50 more expensive than the standard Black variant. Does colour matter to you? Does how the case look even matter? If not... then you can save lots of money on the case.
That build has an old 3820 and a $250 motherboard. A core i7 3770k is roughly the same price as the 3820 but is going to perform slightly better due to its newer architecture plus the motherboard cost is going to be cut in half.
Are you even going to be doing anything that requires the hyperthreading of the i7?? If you're just going to be gaming than ya, you're throwing away $300 on shit that won't be used. Is there a point to having shit that won't be used besides showing off?
Are you even going to be overclocking? If not then you can save like $150+ on the motherboard and getting rid of the $50+ heatsink.
The EVGA GTX 670 Superclocked is overpriced. You have similar / better cards that are pre-overclocked to the levels of the Superclocked SKU for like $50 less.
There are better / similar power supplies to the NZXT Hale82 for less money (or same) plus you wouldn't need a 650w unit unless you plan on doing SLI.
There are better SSDs than the A-DATA S510 for less / same price.
Do you even use Blu-ray? My guess would be no.
Plus there's all the mail in rebates which would equate to like $50-$100.
So to summarize, if this is a gaming build and/or you won't be overclocking and/or care about aesthetics than a significantly better build can be had for the same price.
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@Irre. Well the ibuypower computer doesn't have the best selection of components for gaming. You can get a computer with just as much performance for less. Maybe not with the exact same parts, but you wouldn't want the exact same parts. The selection below is what you could get now. It's geared for gaming, and for a user who doesn't intend to overclock. In fact, the two main ways it is inferior to the ibuypower computer is that it cannot be overclocked (would cost $120 or so for overclocking capacity) and that it cannot be upgraded to a 2-video card system (would cost $75 or so for dual-video card capacity, not counting the second video card). The ibuypower keyboard may or may not be better. The computer below has a DVD-burner instead of blu-ray player. The mouse I selected is superior to the ibuypower mouse option, however. The configuration below is superior in that it will provide basically the same gaming power and is $453 less (total: $1126 dollars, not counting some rebates). Just over $500 less if you go with a 7950 instead of a 670 for graphics card, which I'd recommend. Yes, that's a lot of savings. Enough for a kick-ass monitor.
Bit Fenix Ghost, a sound dampening case, $80 (the exact one in the ibuypower build would be $40 more, but it wouldn't offer you anything more in terms of performance.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=73006&vpn=BFC-GHO-300-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1285
i5-3470 processor, $185. For gaming this is going to be equal to or superior to the ibuypower processor. Assuming you didn't intend to overclock (costs $50 for a small overclock if you go through ibuypower anyway). If you did intend to overclock, then you'd go with an i5-3570k ($215). Don't get hung up on the difference between i7 & i5 like most new to components - it only indicates hyperthreading, which is not useful for gaming (marginally useful if streaming, maybe).
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&vpn=BX80637I53470&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1285
MSI B75M motherboard, $65. This is cheaper than the motherboard on ibuypower because it cannot overclock & it is smaller. A full sized motherboard that can overclock the i5-3570k (+ an appropriate heatsink) would be about $80 more.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74886&vpn=B75MA-E33&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar
2x4gb 1600mhz Mushkin RAM, $38. This is less than the amount of memory on the ibuypower computer for a simple reason: there's no reason to get more than 8gb unless you think 16gb sounds cooler. Like a hard drive with nothing on it, more memory won't add performance.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=54963&vpn=996776&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced
MSI GTX 670, $360. I picked the same card as the ibuypower computer for reference purposes. Though I'd prefer a Sapphire Radeon 7950 at $300 or a 7970 at $387.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709 600286767 600286740&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon HD 7970 )
PSU: XFX 550w, $60. This is less wattage than the PSU on the ibuypower website, but that one has way more wattage than it needs to. This one is already overkill for the system it will power. And it is of equal or higher quality.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&vpn=P1550SXXB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1285
SSD: Samsung 840, $100. Basically the same thing as the SSD on the ibuypower website.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77210&vpn=MZ-7TD120BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1285
HDD: Seagate 1TB, $68. Basically the same thing as the SSD on the ibuypower website.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1285
DVD-player, $16 No, it's not a blu-ray player. But the only purpose of a blu-ray player is to play blu-ray movies or whatnot from blu-ray discs. And if you already have a library of blu-ray discs, you probably already have a blu-ray player.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&vpn=IHAS124-04&manufacture=Liteon&promoid=1285
Windows 8, $85.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77180&promoid=1285
Keyboard: some cheapo, ~$10
Cheapo Speakers, $11 These are the same speakers as the ibuypower computer, though you might want better.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=32150&vpn=980-000012&manufacture=Logitech
Mionix Naos 3200 mouse, $48
http://www.amazon.com/Mionix-Naos-Wired-LED-optical-Mouse/dp/B0041SPG24/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355530364&sr=8-1&keywords=mionix naos 3200
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What is your budget?
$900 USD (but I would like to spend as little as possible)
What is your resolution?
1920x1080.
What are you using it for?
sc2 planetside2 and possibly streaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
5+ years
When do you plan on building it?
probably next month don't worry about specials general price ranges are fine(ill probly buy parts up till next month as i see parts go on special
Do you plan on overclocking?
YES
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have no local venues so newegg and tiger direct are only places i know of.
I have 800w power supply from my previous comp(yes my first comp i bought was overpriced with parts i didn't need and was amd)
i
I have a hdd with 7200 rpm
I need a
case (as plain as possible less lights the better)
ssd
cpu i am buying the Intel Core i5-3570K from tiger direct for $189(http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2373004&Sku=I69-3570K
GPU
operating system (is it too early to get windows 8?)
Mother board
ram (iam sure i dont need over 8 gb)
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On December 15 2012 09:55 drivec wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
$900 USD (but I would like to spend as little as possible)
What is your resolution?
1920x1080.
What are you using it for?
sc2 planetside2 and possibly streaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
5+ years
When do you plan on building it?
probably next month don't worry about specials general price ranges are fine(ill probly buy parts up till next month as i see parts go on special
Do you plan on overclocking?
YES
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
I have no local venues so newegg and tiger direct are only places i know of.
I have 800w power supply from my previous comp(yes my first comp i bought was overpriced with parts i didn't need and was amd)
i
I have a hdd with 7200 rpm
I need a
case (as plain as possible less lights the better)
ssd
cpu i am buying the Intel Core i5-3570K from tiger direct for $189(http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2373004&Sku=I69-3570K
GPU
operating system (is it too early to get windows 8?)
Mother board
ram (iam sure i dont need over 8 gb)
Corsair 200R @ $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018
Asrock Z77 Pro3 & Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz cas9 @ $121
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1153275
GTX 650 Ti @ $140 ($120 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130839
Samsung 840 120gb @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188
$411.
The 3570k is actually $205 before mail in rebate so this would put the total at $616 + ~$100 for Windows 8 or 7.
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so i DESPERATELY need a new computer. I have been looking for a barebones kit that fits in my price range of about 400. I could go higher but my wife (im 23 lol) would be super pissed if i spent more than that. basically what im looking for is this....
a system that can handle WoL, HotS with almost no lag on medium/high
an easy to upgrade video card (non integrated graphics)
$400 and under
a good and fast cpu
So pretty simple. Thanks guys.
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On December 15 2012 08:15 animus128 wrote:Hey TL guys, at the moment I play Sc2 on my Mac and other games on my Ps3 but with new consoles coming out probably next year I want to switch to pure PC Gaming. The problem is that I haven't looked at hardware in the last years so I'm kind of lost. Your help would be greatly appreciated  Budget: I would like to keep it around 600-700€ Resolution: Because my current monitor (Samsung SyncMaster P2270) I would like 1920 ×1080 Usage: I would use it almost exclusively for gaming with a focus on games like D3, Sc2, Dota 2, CS GO etc. So mostly for not that hardware intense games. Upgrade Cycle: At least 1 year. Better 2 years+ Time: Til next summer Overclocking: No OS: I would probably be abled to get Win7 from friends so no Second GPU for SLI or Crossfire: I guess its not needed for the games I want to play so no (if something of that really makes sense please let me know) Seller: I live in Germany so buy parts from German resellers (you have two in your list above I think). Also if the price doesn't differ to much I will probably buy the PC from alternate (german PC site where you can "build" your own PC's but they send it to you completed). If it is way more expensive there I will build it myself. If you have any further questions just ask me Thanks in advance animus128
Here's a potential build. I didn't shop around, figuring hey, Alternate is an SC2 team sponsor, nice. You can check prices on mindfactory.de or hardwareversand.de if you want to look for better deals. Also, I'm assuming prices include taxes, but I could be wrong.
i5-3470 (170 Euro) A strong quad-core.
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Intel(R)/Core_und_trade_i5-3470/965969/?click_HP=16154
Asus B75m (54)
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/ASUS/P8B75-M_LX_PLUS/1043585/?
2x4gb 1333mhz RAM (29)
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Crucial/DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1333_Kit/1001720/?
Gigabyte Radeon 7870 (230)
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/GIGABYTE/Radeon_HD_7870_OC_GHZ_Edition/995497/?
Sharkoon Vaya Value case (36) The looks of this case are not for everyone.
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sharkoon/Vaya_Value_white/894878/?
XFX 450w (50)
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/XFX/450W_Core_Edition_V2_Full_Wired_(Bronze)/924186/?tk=7&lk=3046
Hitachi 1TB HDD (62)
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/HGST/HDS721010CLA332_1_TB/144626/?
DVD-burner (14)
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sony_Optiarc/DDU1681S-0B/138929/?tk=7&lk=1968
Total: 645 Euro
I skipped an SSD in favor of a more powerful video card, but you could drop down to a 7850 (or an i3-3220) and fit an SSD in. A Crucial m4 128gb is 90 euro.
P.S. Having alternate build the computer rather than just ship it will probably cost more. Dunno how much though.
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On December 15 2012 11:29 MisterFred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 08:15 animus128 wrote:Hey TL guys, at the moment I play Sc2 on my Mac and other games on my Ps3 but with new consoles coming out probably next year I want to switch to pure PC Gaming. The problem is that I haven't looked at hardware in the last years so I'm kind of lost. Your help would be greatly appreciated Budget: I would like to keep it around 600-700€ Resolution: Because my current monitor (Samsung SyncMaster P2270) I would like 1920 ×1080 Usage: I would use it almost exclusively for gaming with a focus on games like D3, Sc2, Dota 2, CS GO etc. So mostly for not that hardware intense games. Upgrade Cycle: At least 1 year. Better 2 years+ Time: Til next summer Overclocking: No OS: I would probably be abled to get Win7 from friends so no Second GPU for SLI or Crossfire: I guess its not needed for the games I want to play so no (if something of that really makes sense please let me know) Seller: I live in Germany so buy parts from German resellers (you have two in your list above I think). Also if the price doesn't differ to much I will probably buy the PC from alternate (german PC site where you can "build" your own PC's but they send it to you completed). If it is way more expensive there I will build it myself. If you have any further questions just ask me Thanks in advance animus128 Here's a potential build. I didn't shop around, figuring hey, Alternate is an SC2 team sponsor, nice. You can check prices on mindfactory.de or hardwareversand.de if you want to look for better deals. Also, I'm assuming prices include taxes, but I could be wrong. i5-3470 (170 Euro) A strong quad-core. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Intel(R)/Core_und_trade_i5-3470/965969/?click_HP=16154Asus B75m (54) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/ASUS/P8B75-M_LX_PLUS/1043585/?2x4gb 1333mhz RAM (29) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Crucial/DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1333_Kit/1001720/?Gigabyte Radeon 7870 (230) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/GIGABYTE/Radeon_HD_7870_OC_GHZ_Edition/995497/?Sharkoon Vaya Value case (36) The looks of this case are not for everyone. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sharkoon/Vaya_Value_white/894878/?XFX 450w (50) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/XFX/450W_Core_Edition_V2_Full_Wired_(Bronze)/924186/?tk=7&lk=3046Hitachi 1TB HDD (62) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/HGST/HDS721010CLA332_1_TB/144626/?DVD-burner (14) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sony_Optiarc/DDU1681S-0B/138929/?tk=7&lk=1968Total: 645 Euro I skipped an SSD in favor of a more powerful video card, but you could drop down to a 7850 (or an i3-3220) and fit an SSD in. A Crucial m4 128gb is 90 euro. P.S. Having alternate build the computer rather than just ship it will probably cost more. Dunno how much though.
Thanks sounds really good. I thought about an SSD but I think its really not needed. It mostly helps with office stuff and I want to keep my office stuff on Mac so yeah. Anyway I will check out the different prices now
Edit: And do I need to add a cooler for my CPU with this build?
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On December 15 2012 20:16 animus128 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 11:29 MisterFred wrote:On December 15 2012 08:15 animus128 wrote:Hey TL guys, at the moment I play Sc2 on my Mac and other games on my Ps3 but with new consoles coming out probably next year I want to switch to pure PC Gaming. The problem is that I haven't looked at hardware in the last years so I'm kind of lost. Your help would be greatly appreciated Budget: I would like to keep it around 600-700€ Resolution: Because my current monitor (Samsung SyncMaster P2270) I would like 1920 ×1080 Usage: I would use it almost exclusively for gaming with a focus on games like D3, Sc2, Dota 2, CS GO etc. So mostly for not that hardware intense games. Upgrade Cycle: At least 1 year. Better 2 years+ Time: Til next summer Overclocking: No OS: I would probably be abled to get Win7 from friends so no Second GPU for SLI or Crossfire: I guess its not needed for the games I want to play so no (if something of that really makes sense please let me know) Seller: I live in Germany so buy parts from German resellers (you have two in your list above I think). Also if the price doesn't differ to much I will probably buy the PC from alternate (german PC site where you can "build" your own PC's but they send it to you completed). If it is way more expensive there I will build it myself. If you have any further questions just ask me Thanks in advance animus128 Here's a potential build. I didn't shop around, figuring hey, Alternate is an SC2 team sponsor, nice. You can check prices on mindfactory.de or hardwareversand.de if you want to look for better deals. Also, I'm assuming prices include taxes, but I could be wrong. i5-3470 (170 Euro) A strong quad-core. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Intel(R)/Core_und_trade_i5-3470/965969/?click_HP=16154Asus B75m (54) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/ASUS/P8B75-M_LX_PLUS/1043585/?2x4gb 1333mhz RAM (29) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Crucial/DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1333_Kit/1001720/?Gigabyte Radeon 7870 (230) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/GIGABYTE/Radeon_HD_7870_OC_GHZ_Edition/995497/?Sharkoon Vaya Value case (36) The looks of this case are not for everyone. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sharkoon/Vaya_Value_white/894878/?XFX 450w (50) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/XFX/450W_Core_Edition_V2_Full_Wired_(Bronze)/924186/?tk=7&lk=3046Hitachi 1TB HDD (62) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/HGST/HDS721010CLA332_1_TB/144626/?DVD-burner (14) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sony_Optiarc/DDU1681S-0B/138929/?tk=7&lk=1968Total: 645 Euro I skipped an SSD in favor of a more powerful video card, but you could drop down to a 7850 (or an i3-3220) and fit an SSD in. A Crucial m4 128gb is 90 euro. P.S. Having alternate build the computer rather than just ship it will probably cost more. Dunno how much though. Thanks sounds really good. I thought about an SSD but I think its really not needed. It mostly helps with office stuff and I want to keep my office stuff on Mac so yeah. Anyway I will check out the different prices now Edit: And do I need to add a cooler for my CPU with this build?
You're not overclocking, so that will be unnecessary, unless you want a CPU cooler for the sake of having one.
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On December 15 2012 22:22 Blisse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 20:16 animus128 wrote:On December 15 2012 11:29 MisterFred wrote:On December 15 2012 08:15 animus128 wrote:Hey TL guys, at the moment I play Sc2 on my Mac and other games on my Ps3 but with new consoles coming out probably next year I want to switch to pure PC Gaming. The problem is that I haven't looked at hardware in the last years so I'm kind of lost. Your help would be greatly appreciated Budget: I would like to keep it around 600-700€ Resolution: Because my current monitor (Samsung SyncMaster P2270) I would like 1920 ×1080 Usage: I would use it almost exclusively for gaming with a focus on games like D3, Sc2, Dota 2, CS GO etc. So mostly for not that hardware intense games. Upgrade Cycle: At least 1 year. Better 2 years+ Time: Til next summer Overclocking: No OS: I would probably be abled to get Win7 from friends so no Second GPU for SLI or Crossfire: I guess its not needed for the games I want to play so no (if something of that really makes sense please let me know) Seller: I live in Germany so buy parts from German resellers (you have two in your list above I think). Also if the price doesn't differ to much I will probably buy the PC from alternate (german PC site where you can "build" your own PC's but they send it to you completed). If it is way more expensive there I will build it myself. If you have any further questions just ask me Thanks in advance animus128 Here's a potential build. I didn't shop around, figuring hey, Alternate is an SC2 team sponsor, nice. You can check prices on mindfactory.de or hardwareversand.de if you want to look for better deals. Also, I'm assuming prices include taxes, but I could be wrong. i5-3470 (170 Euro) A strong quad-core. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Intel(R)/Core_und_trade_i5-3470/965969/?click_HP=16154Asus B75m (54) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/ASUS/P8B75-M_LX_PLUS/1043585/?2x4gb 1333mhz RAM (29) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Crucial/DIMM_8_GB_DDR3-1333_Kit/1001720/?Gigabyte Radeon 7870 (230) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/GIGABYTE/Radeon_HD_7870_OC_GHZ_Edition/995497/?Sharkoon Vaya Value case (36) The looks of this case are not for everyone. http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sharkoon/Vaya_Value_white/894878/?XFX 450w (50) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/XFX/450W_Core_Edition_V2_Full_Wired_(Bronze)/924186/?tk=7&lk=3046Hitachi 1TB HDD (62) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/HGST/HDS721010CLA332_1_TB/144626/?DVD-burner (14) http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Sony_Optiarc/DDU1681S-0B/138929/?tk=7&lk=1968Total: 645 Euro I skipped an SSD in favor of a more powerful video card, but you could drop down to a 7850 (or an i3-3220) and fit an SSD in. A Crucial m4 128gb is 90 euro. P.S. Having alternate build the computer rather than just ship it will probably cost more. Dunno how much though. Thanks sounds really good. I thought about an SSD but I think its really not needed. It mostly helps with office stuff and I want to keep my office stuff on Mac so yeah. Anyway I will check out the different prices now Edit: And do I need to add a cooler for my CPU with this build? You're not overclocking, so that will be unnecessary, unless you want a CPU cooler for the sake of having one.
Ok thanks for the info! I read on many pages about people who have heat problems with their CPU so I just wanted to make sure.
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I found a Music backup that my brother made 5 years ago. Its 3GB of MPEG4 files on a DVD. However half way through the copy the DVD burner spins down and my transfer rate plummets (from ~10mb/s to 250kb/s), then the transfer precedes to stall. Anybody know why this is happening and how I can fix it?
I don't think the DVD burner is bad, I can still install games and watch movies on it fine.
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Just bumping my post, since it seems to have gotten lost and forgotten ^^
On December 14 2012 22:50 Nuf wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sorry for the horrible english grammar. Hello! So I am going to build a new computer, as my old one is, well, old. My hardware is outdated and quite worn out. I am going to answer the questions that you've asked the best I can. What is my budget?My budget is around the 1k$ mark. What is my resolution?Well, currently I play on highest resolution on my computer, which is 1680x1050. I would however like to play on 1920 × 1080.What am I using it for?Entertainment. Gaming mostly. Watching some videos, listening to some music and so on. What is my upgrade cycle?I usually have my technology for 3 years+. I know how to take care of it, and how to maintain it. So yeah, my upgrade cycle is 3 years at the bare minimum. (I'm not sure if I understood this question entirely correctly) When do I plan on building it?I plan on building it in the early 2013. Jan, Feb, Mar. I'm not saying that I am building it over 3 months, these are just some of the months I am most likely going to build it on.
Do I plan on overclocking?Nope. Do I need an OS?No, I'm in MSDS. Do I plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?I'm not entirely sure. That is for you guys to decide with the budget I have set, kept in mind. Where am I buying my parts from?Well, I'm from Denmark. Just north of Germany. Shops are pretty expensive in Denmark, and you are not 100% sure that you can get all the new parts that other countries might have access to, but keep in mind I live close to germany. Thank you guys for this thread, I see that it has helped lots of people, and you deserve some recognition for your work. Regards, Dejan // Nuf
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I think people were unhype to respond because the build date was so imprecise. We always like to post current good deals to get people better prices. Sales change from week to week, so unless you're actually buying soon, there's not too much point in posting suggestions.
Plenty of German shops ship across Europe and have decent prices. Would you be interested in that? I forget what the best retailer in Denmark is, but I'm sure it was worse anyway.
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On December 16 2012 00:38 Myrmidon wrote:
I think people were unhype to respond because the build date was so imprecise. We always like to post current good deals to get people better prices. Sales change from week to week, so unless you're actually buying soon, there's not too much point in posting suggestions.
Plenty of German shops ship across Europe and have decent prices. Would you be interested in that? I forget what the best retailer in Denmark is, but I'm sure it was worse anyway.
Hi mate, thanks for the reply.
Yes, I am 100% sure that german retailers would almost always be cheaper than the danish one.
If you could give me a good idea of a build, given the current details - you know, a good basic foundation.
It's very thoughtful of you to take my "planning to buy" time in to consideration, but I will most likely get it at January, or when they do that shift in technology early next year.
So if I were to buy it in January, less than a month from now, I guess that would be an acceptable time frame?
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Well, sale pricing in Europe is often not as extreme, so a build now should work (or just need minor tweaks later). New technology may be coming April or something like that, so not around January.
If you were to buy from Germany, how many Euros would be budget be? Or Danish Krone?
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Well pricing in europe is actually fairly good if you know where to look and hunt for deals
i know amazon has really good sales from time to time, but don't really advertize them
and for france (dunno for other countrys), we have awesome sales twice a year (just as an example, a year ago we had like gtx560ti go down to 120€ , Bequiet! straigth power i think 400w go down to 40, etc...)
just did a build for a friend for 520€ was able to get a 7950 in it with an i3 and an SSD
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Well, I'm looking to spend around 1000$
Looking forward to answers/builds
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How good is the GTX 560 Ti?
I just bought it and am wondering what sort of FPS it will get.
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It depends of the game? For SC2, it will play it on ultra no problem at 1080p, your cpu will be limiting FPS factor
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What about other games? how will it do?
e.g Far Cry 3, BF3, other new games I dont know yet 
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