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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 03:29:02
December 14 2012 03:28 GMT
#26061
@aldochillbro
You want cheap as you can get? Buying new? Well that's not actually very easy, largely because of the cost of windows. Some cheap prebuilts with the right CPU can actually be the way to go because of the cheap windows. But here's the basics (cpu + mobo) for building a tower on your own

Some relatively cheap dual-core
Pentium g555 - $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116779

A motherboard that can run it - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527

then add roughly:
Some cheap 2x2gb or 2x4gb of RAM - ~$15-30

cheap HDD - ~$60

Bit Fenix Merc Alpha for case - ~$35

DVD-burner - ~$17

Cheap PSU like an Antec Basiq - ~$35

= ~$280
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 14 2012 03:44 GMT
#26062
When's the MacBook Pro from? Models from certain recent years should be better for gaming than the above, honestly.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
December 14 2012 04:04 GMT
#26063
On December 14 2012 12:44 Myrmidon wrote:
When's the MacBook Pro from? Models from certain recent years should be better for gaming than the above, honestly.

From what he said, I got the impression it was overheating, which could make it unplayable.
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Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
December 14 2012 04:10 GMT
#26064
for about 350$

i3-3220
cheapest b75 motherboard
2*2 gb ram
some 500gb 7200 rpm hdd
bitfenix merc alpha
PSU like corsair CX 430
random dvd burner

this will play no problem on low, and later you can add on a GPU for much better graphics
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 14 2012 04:25 GMT
#26065
On December 14 2012 13:04 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 12:44 Myrmidon wrote:
When's the MacBook Pro from? Models from certain recent years should be better for gaming than the above, honestly.

From what he said, I got the impression it was overheating, which could make it unplayable.

Yeah, but by how much? Sometimes people just never have cleaned vents and heatsinks of dust, and that's enough to fix things. Even if it needs repasting and an external cooling pad, that's still a whole lot cheaper than a new system.

A ~2008 MacBook Pro with Core 2 Duo and 8600M GT is not too far off Celeron G555. Mid 2010 is about the same, depending on model. Newer than that is generally slightly better. Of course I'm not expecting mid 2012 Retina MBP with Core i7 and GT 650M, but some of these models should be usable if working properly.


Anyway, if Windows is required, prebuilts in that range are cheaper, even if occasionally you may need to supplement with something like 1 x 2GB RAM or something like that.

Pentium G645 system with Win7 for $350 (before shipping/tax), for example:
here

There are also refurb systems for those who don't care and like to roll the dice.
Nuf
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark145 Posts
December 14 2012 13:50 GMT
#26066
+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry for the horrible english grammar.


Hello! So I am going to build a new computer, as my old one is, well, old. My hardware is outdated and quite worn out.
I am going to answer the questions that you've asked the best I can.

What is my budget?
My budget is around the 1k$ mark.

What is my resolution?
Well, currently I play on highest resolution on my computer, which is 1680x1050. I would however like to play on 1920 × 1080.

What am I using it for?
Entertainment. Gaming mostly. Watching some videos, listening to some music and so on.

What is my upgrade cycle?
I usually have my technology for 3 years+. I know how to take care of it, and how to maintain it. So yeah, my upgrade cycle is 3 years at the bare minimum. (I'm not sure if I understood this question entirely correctly)

When do I plan on building it?
I plan on building it in the early 2013. Jan, Feb, Mar. I'm not saying that I am building it over 3 months, these are just some of the months I am most likely going to build it on.

Do I plan on overclocking?

Nope.

Do I need an OS?
No, I'm in MSDS.

Do I plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I'm not entirely sure. That is for you guys to decide with the budget I have set, kept in mind.

Where am I buying my parts from?
Well, I'm from Denmark. Just north of Germany. Shops are pretty expensive in Denmark, and you are not 100% sure that you can get all the new parts that other countries might have access to, but keep in mind I live close to germany.

Thank you guys for this thread, I see that it has helped lots of people, and you deserve some recognition for your work.

Regards,
Dejan // Nuf
For the Swarm!
aldochillbro
Profile Joined July 2012
187 Posts
December 14 2012 16:16 GMT
#26067
2.3 GHz Intel Core i5, 4gb 1067 MHz DDR3, Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB (I got it like 1.5 years ago) for those who were wondering. And Myrmidon, how would I clean my vents(or anyone else that knows)? By the way, thank you all for replying
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#26068
As Myrmidon posted above, your laptop is likely more powerful than the measly bare-bones system I posted above. For your budget you're probably not going to do much better, except for the overheating problems. What about one of those silly pads that's supposed to cool a laptop sitting on top of it? I can't remember what they're called.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
NoBanMeAgain
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States194 Posts
December 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#26069
here is a link to a bare bones kit that i would like to buy....

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7486631&CatId=332

here is a list of components as well....

•ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ Motherboard - ATX, Socket AM3+, AMD 970 Chipset, AMD FX, 2133MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, CrossFireX Ready
•AMD FD4300WMHKBOX FX-4300 Four-Core 3.8GHz AM3+ Processor - AM3+, Quad-Core, 3.8GHz, 8MB, 95W, Unlocked
•Kingston HyperX KHX16C9B1RK2/8 8GB Memory Module Kit - 1600MHz, DDR3, CL9, DIMM, 2x4
•XFX Radeon HD 6570 HD657XZDF2 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.1, 1x Dual-link DVI-I, 1x VGA, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, CrossfireX
•Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD+R DL 8X, SATA (OEM)
•Kingwin ABT-650MM Maximum Series ATX Power Supply - 650W, 120mm Fan, Single +12V Rail
•Ultra Gladiator Mid-Tower Case - ATX/MicroATX, 3x 5.25" Bays, 3.5" Bays, 1x USB 3.0, 4x USB 2.0, 7x Expansion Slots, Black, Lifetime Warranty with Registration


so how well would this run HotS and WoL? And on what settings?
'Widow mines will split open the earth, releasing the fiery bats of hell. The skies will grow black with the shadows of the medivacs, and they shall see no light but the harsh exhaust of afterburners. MajOr-16:1
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
December 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#26070
FX series CPU's are awful for gaming^.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
NoBanMeAgain
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States194 Posts
December 14 2012 19:19 GMT
#26071
On December 15 2012 04:03 Cyro wrote:
FX series CPU's are awful for gaming^.


so could you be more helpful?
'Widow mines will split open the earth, releasing the fiery bats of hell. The skies will grow black with the shadows of the medivacs, and they shall see no light but the harsh exhaust of afterburners. MajOr-16:1
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
December 14 2012 19:37 GMT
#26072
I am sort of considering a new PC at the moment, but the past 2 that I have bought, I looked hard to find similar spec PC buying individual parts vs getting a good price from a site like Ibuypower, and honestly I cannot see a difference in price... I don't know if I'm just not looking in the right places, but I built a PC on Ibuypower, then went and did the same on 2 sites with individual parts from the PC that were similar or identical and it came out the same price. I normally spend about 1100-1300 for a PC. Is there something about Ibuypower that they cheap out on? I'm very satisfied with my current PC from them..
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 19:51:48
December 14 2012 19:50 GMT
#26073
On December 15 2012 03:58 ImANinjaBich wrote:
here is a link to a bare bones kit that i would like to buy....

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7486631&CatId=332

here is a list of components as well....

•ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ Motherboard - ATX, Socket AM3+, AMD 970 Chipset, AMD FX, 2133MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, CrossFireX Ready
•AMD FD4300WMHKBOX FX-4300 Four-Core 3.8GHz AM3+ Processor - AM3+, Quad-Core, 3.8GHz, 8MB, 95W, Unlocked
•Kingston HyperX KHX16C9B1RK2/8 8GB Memory Module Kit - 1600MHz, DDR3, CL9, DIMM, 2x4
•XFX Radeon HD 6570 HD657XZDF2 Video Card - 1GB, GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.1, 1x Dual-link DVI-I, 1x VGA, 1x HDMI, DirectX 11, CrossfireX
•Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer - DVD+R 24X, DVD-R 24X, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6X, DVD+R DL 8X, SATA (OEM)
•Kingwin ABT-650MM Maximum Series ATX Power Supply - 650W, 120mm Fan, Single +12V Rail
•Ultra Gladiator Mid-Tower Case - ATX/MicroATX, 3x 5.25" Bays, 3.5" Bays, 1x USB 3.0, 4x USB 2.0, 7x Expansion Slots, Black, Lifetime Warranty with Registration


so how well would this run HotS and WoL? And on what settings?

- Fx 2 module cpu is like a dual core with HT (i3) but with far less performance, although it's better in multithreaded things like encoding (not games at all).
- The gpu is complete shit, pretty much a media pc card. Med-high for sc2, low for new games.
- The psu is complete shit too, but it will run.
- "kits" just contain all the worst excess stock a store has that never sells because it sucks.

I'd post an alternative but I'm going to bed now. Maybe in the morning
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Patrick2810
Profile Joined September 2011
35 Posts
December 14 2012 20:00 GMT
#26074
Hi my budget is around £510 and I wont need an optical drive, monitor, or OS

Is this a good build?
CPU: i5 3570K
GPU :Amd Hd Radeon 7850
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 14 2012 20:41 GMT
#26075
On December 15 2012 04:37 Irre wrote:
I am sort of considering a new PC at the moment, but the past 2 that I have bought, I looked hard to find similar spec PC buying individual parts vs getting a good price from a site like Ibuypower, and honestly I cannot see a difference in price... I don't know if I'm just not looking in the right places, but I built a PC on Ibuypower, then went and did the same on 2 sites with individual parts from the PC that were similar or identical and it came out the same price. I normally spend about 1100-1300 for a PC. Is there something about Ibuypower that they cheap out on? I'm very satisfied with my current PC from them..


Well it would help if you actually posted your comparison since you're probably doing it wrong. And ya Ibuypower might be comparable if you want the same individual components that won't make a difference (eg. 2GB on a shitty GTX 560 or 1866MHz memory) in gaming.

On December 15 2012 05:00 Patrick2810 wrote:
Hi my budget is around £510 and I wont need an optical drive, monitor, or OS

Is this a good build?
CPU: i5 3570K
GPU :Amd Hd Radeon 7850


That's a quarter of the build but ya your quarter build is good given the lack of information you provided.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 21:06:14
December 14 2012 21:00 GMT
#26076
hey guys my brother has a cheap pc he bought a while ago wants to build a new one. i cant find out whatb the motherboard is but i think its pretty shitty. this is a budget build cuz i dont think my mom wants to spend a lot on him. i guess im just going to reuse his cd drive & hdd, and replace everything else. he wants a good computer for gaming, wants to be able to record his xbox 360 gameplay and make videos, hell most likely eventually get an avermedia cap card or something. dont need a monitor or os either.

kinda want to future proof at the same time as not spend a lot. right now i have these components, should i change anything? can i save money somewhere?

i5-3470 cpu
MSI Z77A-G41
EVGA SSC 01G-P4-3652-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti gpu
rosewill capstone 450w
cooler master hyper 212 cooler
cooler master haf 912 case
some random 8gb ram

im at about $573 right now, without really checking for price differences just doing a quick put together
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 14 2012 21:03 GMT
#26077
You realize you need a new processor if you are going to replace the motherboard?
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
December 14 2012 21:04 GMT
#26078
On December 15 2012 06:03 skyR wrote:
You realize you need a new processor if you are going to replace the motherboard?


no i did not realize that, edited.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
December 14 2012 22:36 GMT
#26079
On December 15 2012 05:41 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 04:37 Irre wrote:
I am sort of considering a new PC at the moment, but the past 2 that I have bought, I looked hard to find similar spec PC buying individual parts vs getting a good price from a site like Ibuypower, and honestly I cannot see a difference in price... I don't know if I'm just not looking in the right places, but I built a PC on Ibuypower, then went and did the same on 2 sites with individual parts from the PC that were similar or identical and it came out the same price. I normally spend about 1100-1300 for a PC. Is there something about Ibuypower that they cheap out on? I'm very satisfied with my current PC from them..


Well it would help if you actually posted your comparison since you're probably doing it wrong. And ya Ibuypower might be comparable if you want the same individual components that won't make a difference (eg. 2GB on a shitty GTX 560 or 1866MHz memory) in gaming.

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 05:00 Patrick2810 wrote:
Hi my budget is around £510 and I wont need an optical drive, monitor, or OS

Is this a good build?
CPU: i5 3570K
GPU :Amd Hd Radeon 7850


That's a quarter of the build but ya your quarter build is good given the lack of information you provided.



OK just to give a small example I think I customized on Ibuypower something similar to this compuer

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gamer_Paladin_D875

Its listed at 1579- can get it down to about 1500 with a few tweaks.

I tried to build that on tigerdirect..and could not get any cheaper... Now maybe that is the case with the high end stuff, but unless I did something totally wrong I didn't find "building your own" to be much more effective here. If you can find otherwise, I'd definitely be interested to know!

animus128
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 23:19:11
December 14 2012 23:15 GMT
#26080
Hey TL guys,

at the moment I play Sc2 on my Mac and other games on my Ps3 but with new consoles coming out probably next year I want to switch to pure PC Gaming. The problem is that I haven't looked at hardware in the last years so I'm kind of lost. Your help would be greatly appreciated

Budget:
I would like to keep it around 600-700€

Resolution:
Because my current monitor (Samsung SyncMaster P2270) I would like 1920 ×1080

Usage:
I would use it almost exclusively for gaming with a focus on games like D3, Sc2, Dota 2, CS GO etc. So mostly for not that hardware intense games.

Upgrade Cycle:
At least 1 year. Better 2 years+

Time:
Til next summer

Overclocking:
No

OS:
I would probably be abled to get Win7 from friends so no

Second GPU for SLI or Crossfire:
I guess its not needed for the games I want to play so no (if something of that really makes sense please let me know)

Seller:
I live in Germany so buy parts from German resellers (you have two in your list above I think). Also if the price doesn't differ to much I will probably buy the PC from alternate (german PC site where you can "build" your own PC's but they send it to you completed). If it is way more expensive there I will build it myself.

If you have any further questions just ask me

Thanks in advance
animus128
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