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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 19:13 GMT
#24321
On August 29 2012 04:10 Nabutso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 03:53 Medrea wrote:
Its just a side to draw heat out of. No actual components rest on that side.

Yeah I'm just looking for extra ways to cool it down (not that it's really hot, but it's something I'd like to try).

Should I be worried about shorting out anything on the bottom? I have a reference 680 from EVGA.

Another wacky but interesting idea, watercooling with heatspreaders on the tubes? Lol


You won't get any relevant cooling out of it, and whether you short anything depends on a bunch of things, like how you mount them, but I'd say the odds of trouble are better than the odds of accomplishing anything useful.

I suggest adjusting your default fan curve in Precision.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 28 2012 19:44 GMT
#24322
100 percent you will short things. Those pins sticking out on the back are active.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 19:46 GMT
#24323
Nah, if he used non-conductive thermal tape to attach it, it wouldn't be guaranteed to short anymore, it would just go from essentially useless to completely useless. Until he bumped it and the heatsinks fell over, then it would short.

Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
August 28 2012 19:47 GMT
#24324
My fan profile is OK, I reach about 79-80c during Furmark while overclocked 50 core and 250 mem (I got a shitty card, I know), but I was just wondering if I can do some fun tinkering!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 20:04:35
August 28 2012 19:58 GMT
#24325
On August 29 2012 04:47 Nabutso wrote:
My fan profile is OK, I reach about 79-80c during Furmark while overclocked 50 core and 250 mem (I got a shitty card, I know), but I was just wondering if I can do some fun tinkering!


I suggest stealing other people's projects for tinkering, or studying a bit more before trying to make up your own.

That said, EVGA's community forums include lots of things other people have done, complete with build logs and results, which should tend to give you some safe places to start.

We're happy to answer questions, of course, but I really think you've got a bit of a ways to go before you need to be inventing your own mods.

And please don't take this as an insult or condescension, I just don't want to see you accidentally damaging your card by trying to overreach your first time out the gate.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 28 2012 20:20 GMT
#24326
Sometimes there is VRAM on the back side, like for reference GTX 670 I think. Occasionally people will put VRMs there too? I forget if I imagined that or not.

Now that you mention video cards, EVGA, and tinkering, it's got me wondering how many of those ePower boards actually sold...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 28 2012 20:29 GMT
#24327
Well, yes, but he was specifically referring to the PCB, although that may have been an oversight. If it was, it lends credence to the idea that he should be copycatting for now.
PoweredbyYogurt
Profile Joined August 2012
United States13 Posts
August 28 2012 23:29 GMT
#24328
So this is my first time building a new computer. It is intended for gaming, and it would be helpful if you just checked over my list of parts. Thanks.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Mobo: ASRock H77 Pro4-M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit
Optical: SAMSUNG Internal DVD Writer
PSU: I'm not very good with power supplies, so if you could recommend one that'd be great.
HDD (for just storage): Hitachi GST 0A39289 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
SSD (to run the OS): Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F60GB3A-BK 2.5" 60GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive
and I also need a keyboard and monitor so if you could recommend something, that's be good.
Mr.Kool
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 01:06:18
August 29 2012 01:05 GMT
#24329
Hello all mighty TL Tech Masters! I need your help in showing me a build that is cost effective and will be great for a few years. I cant post a thread yet, but Ill keep this simple for now. I have 700$ CAN to build a computer for the biggest bang for my buck.

Got a monitor . REZ 1980 x 1080
OS: I have one, so it wont need to come out of my budget.
Games: I play SC2, LOL ( I would like to play these games at as high as I can and with great FPS)
I also would like to play other games as well, but like I said, overall a computer with the best bang for my buck.
Thank you awesome people.
Reply or PM
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 01:46:58
August 29 2012 01:31 GMT
#24330
On August 29 2012 08:29 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
So this is my first time building a new computer. It is intended for gaming, and it would be helpful if you just checked over my list of parts. Thanks.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Mobo: ASRock H77 Pro4-M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit
Optical: SAMSUNG Internal DVD Writer
PSU: I'm not very good with power supplies, so if you could recommend one that'd be great.
HDD (for just storage): Hitachi GST 0A39289 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
SSD (to run the OS): Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F60GB3A-BK 2.5" 60GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive
and I also need a keyboard and monitor so if you could recommend something, that's be good.

PSU: cheapest Rosewill Capstone; otherwise, some kind of decent budget unit like Antec Earthwatts / Neo Eco / High Current Gamer, Corsair CX400 (still $30 at us.ncix.com)

SSD: try an Intel 330, Crucial M4, or Samsung 830 instead. There are others, but Corsair Force 3 is one of the less-preferred options though most likely would do fine.

Case: also check out Antec One Hundred, Cooler Master HAF 912, maybe even Corsair 300R; there are plenty of options, though modern-revision Antec 300 is probably okay

Motherboard: some cheaper B75 or H77 option is probably okay, but you won't save an extraordinary amount down from a H77 Pro4-M


As for keyboards, different people prefer different things (mechanical Cherry MX switches and which specific type, buckling spring, scissor switches, rubber dome, etc.), different layouts, different numbers of keys, backlighting vs. not, so it's hard to say.

For monitors, cheapest reasonable option is Asus VS229H-P, or try a modern Dell Ultrasharp like U2312HM. However, if you play very fast-moving games primarily and/or are sensitive to ghosting / motion issues, get a good TN panel monitor, maybe even a 120 Hz model (check the monitor thread for ideas and don't get the cheapest 120 Hz option available).



On August 29 2012 10:05 Mr.Kool wrote:
Hello all mighty TL Tech Masters! I need your help in showing me a build that is cost effective and will be great for a few years. I cant post a thread yet, but Ill keep this simple for now. I have 700$ CAN to build a computer for the biggest bang for my buck.

Got a monitor . REZ 1980 x 1080
OS: I have one, so it wont need to come out of my budget.
Games: I play SC2, LOL ( I would like to play these games at as high as I can and with great FPS)
I also would like to play other games as well, but like I said, overall a computer with the best bang for my buck.
Thank you awesome people.
Reply or PM


This is keeping well in budget, hopefully still so after taxes/shipping (NOTE: deals all end this Wednesday, so at least put this stuff in the cart ASAP; that said, the new deals for the new week are probably not going to be much worse if at all):

Intel Core i5-3450 - $180
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70543&promoid=1088

Gigabyte B75M-D3H - $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1360

G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM - $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1088

Sapphire HD 7850 - $210
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75620&promoid=1405

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $65
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1088

Asus CD / DVD burner - $19
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1088

Corsair CX400 - $30
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=33357&promoid=1088

BitFenix Merc Beta - $30
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63257&promoid=1088

If you can find the budget to add an SSD, I would recommend doing so.
Mr.Kool
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada3 Posts
August 29 2012 03:55 GMT
#24331
Thanks a lot, about to order in you I trust.
Mr.Kool
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada3 Posts
August 29 2012 04:07 GMT
#24332
Wait dont I need a Fan?
Slic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 05:56:28
August 29 2012 05:55 GMT
#24333
I want to get a new video card and I setteled on the Radeon HD 7850 (thanks for the suggestion Rollin). Any suggestions for the brand of card? I am thinking of going with one of these two.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999

Is there any reason I shouldn't get the cheaper one and just OC it myself?

Also, I'm wondering if I need to get a new powersupply for this card. This is the one I have now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Thanks!
Fog-of-War
Profile Joined November 2009
United States103 Posts
August 29 2012 11:03 GMT
#24334
So I was thinking about building my own computer. I already have a computer however that I just bought a new hard drive for(since the last one died on me) and since it would be my first build and I really don't need a super computer, I was hoping I could just upgrade the one I have now.

I have an ASUS essentio cg1330 with a couple upgrades. The power supply is an Antec earthwatts 650w. And I just bought a hitachi deskstar with 1 terabyte,7200 rpm, 32MB cache, SATA 3GB/s

I have $1000 budget

I have a 1600x900 720p monitor right now, but am planning to upgrade to 1920x1080 1080p

I mainly play sc2 with a few others mixed in like dark souls, D3. I'd like to be able to play those on higher settings no problem and be able to stream sc2 on at least low settings no problem.

I upgrade probably about every two years, but possibly sooner If I want to build a more powerful custom rig.

Overclocking might be fun to play with and I know I'd get better performance, though it would be another first for me

crossfire I'm not sure about, I want to use my 720p monitor now, as well as the new one I get but i doubt I'll do dual games. Just to help me with streaming.

My operating system I have now should be fine.

I'd love to do these upgrades as soon as possible. I should be replacing my hdd today.

If this doesn't seem possible I'd love to know what custom rig I should build for about 1200 since I'd sell my old computer.
Thank you.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 29 2012 11:08 GMT
#24335
On August 29 2012 13:07 Mr.Kool wrote:
Wait dont I need a Fan?


Case comes with fans, GPU and CPu comes with relevant cooling hardware too. You have a fairly low powered system so you don't need a wind tunnel inside it.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
August 29 2012 12:30 GMT
#24336
On August 29 2012 14:55 Slic wrote:
I want to get a new video card and I setteled on the Radeon HD 7850 (thanks for the suggestion Rollin). Any suggestions for the brand of card? I am thinking of going with one of these two.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999

Is there any reason I shouldn't get the cheaper one and just OC it myself?

Also, I'm wondering if I need to get a new powersupply for this card. This is the one I have now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Thanks!

That powersupply is fine. There is no reason to pay more for a "factory overclocked" card, they're rarely binned any differently at all, and the overclocks are almost always modest. This can be done with any basic overclocking utility, amd's catalyst control centre (I have no experience with it) or MSI afterburner are both take about 2 minutes to achieve the same thing with. Things that are worth extra money are differing fan designs, but seeing as they are identical, it makes no difference. Just don't adjust the card voltage if you don't know what you're doing and you won't do any damage.

Glad to be of service
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Slic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States22 Posts
August 29 2012 14:47 GMT
#24337
On August 29 2012 21:30 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 14:55 Slic wrote:
I want to get a new video card and I setteled on the Radeon HD 7850 (thanks for the suggestion Rollin). Any suggestions for the brand of card? I am thinking of going with one of these two.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102999

Is there any reason I shouldn't get the cheaper one and just OC it myself?

Also, I'm wondering if I need to get a new powersupply for this card. This is the one I have now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Thanks!

That powersupply is fine. There is no reason to pay more for a "factory overclocked" card, they're rarely binned any differently at all, and the overclocks are almost always modest. This can be done with any basic overclocking utility, amd's catalyst control centre (I have no experience with it) or MSI afterburner are both take about 2 minutes to achieve the same thing with. Things that are worth extra money are differing fan designs, but seeing as they are identical, it makes no difference. Just don't adjust the card voltage if you don't know what you're doing and you won't do any damage.

Glad to be of service


Ok, thanks for the help. Is sapphire a good brand? That card doesn't have a lot of reviews.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 15:17:52
August 29 2012 15:17 GMT
#24338
On August 29 2012 23:47 Slic wrote:
Ok, thanks for the help. Is sapphire a good brand? That card doesn't have a lot of reviews.


Sapphire is AMD's biggest GPU partner. Of course, that doesn't imply best but they are well regarded in general.

The Dual-X is a good model; it's very quiet and cools well: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-hd7850-overclock-edition-review/17/
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 16:23:23
August 29 2012 16:21 GMT
#24339
I have a i5 3450 + H61M/U3S3, geforce 560TI, ssd+normal hdd and nothing else.

I want a silent new power supply. It doesnt have to be UBER silent. Just not a huge loud fan and no china banger. Best bang for the buck.

400w should be enough.

I would buy at http://www.cyberport.de/ or http://www.kmcomputer.de/
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 18:55:33
August 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#24340
Super Flower Amazon 450W:
http://www.kmcomputer.de/item/961/958/0/116598/450w-superflower-amazon-80 -bronze.html

If you have more money, maybe a Super Flower Golden Green, Be Quiet Straight Power E9 (or E10...), Super Flower Golden King, a Seasonic or Super Flower fanless power supply. I would get either the Amazon or Golden Green.

edit: see this and the AT review mentioned:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50561

with my very rudimentary German skills, I notice user comments on the kmcomputer page saying "absolut leise", "sehr leise", "super leise", "kaum hörbar", etc.
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