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Proxie
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skyR
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Proxie
United States90 Posts
On August 26 2012 10:05 Proxie wrote: COOLER MASTER HAF 912 Case $59.99 ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77$134.99 MSI R7870 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition $259.99 Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-650-M 650W ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified ...$99.99 Intel Core i5-3570K $229.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL $45.99 Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $89.99 SONY Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM$18.99 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 OK i changed to this saves me a good $75 Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Intel Z77 1155 Motherboard http://www.frys.com/product/7028791?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG $99 CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply $61 This good? and could i take my cd drive from my old like 7 year old computer that saves me another $20 if i can | ||
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skyR
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Proxie
United States90 Posts
On August 26 2012 14:09 skyR wrote: Capstone 450-M is $3 more and is significantly better than a CX600v2... oh sorry ill check it out right now but doesn't a 7870 need at least a 500w psu? | ||
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skyR
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Proxie
United States90 Posts
On August 26 2012 14:20 skyR wrote: No it doesn't. Thanks will do. | ||
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Xiniun
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On August 26 2012 08:01 MisterFred wrote: I looked through scan.co.uk, because I'm used to that website's format. Feel free to shop around for the same/similar parts if you want to save a few quid. Core Components: 270 pounds i5-3550 MSI z77a-g45 (for cheap SLI potential - currently out of stock at scan, but probably available somewhere else) 2x4gb 1600mhz ram http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-35501155-ivy-bridge-quad-core-33ghz-5-gt-s-dmi-650mhz-gpu-6mb-smart-cache-33x-ratio-77 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z77a-g45-intel-z77-s-1155-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-30-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-corsair-ddr3-xms3-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-15v Video Card: 248-300 pounds One of: Gigabyte or MSI 660ti (250)- probably the best single card option for 1920x1080, I dunno if 660ti has any unexpected issues re:memory bandwidth. Probably works fine. But I'm a bit ignorant there. MSI or Sapphire 7950 (248)- probably the best option if you ever plan to upgrade to a gaming resolution higher than 1920x1080, or if you're comfortable overclocking your video card. EVGA 670 (300)- a potential option if you want a really kick-ass SLI setup in the future. I think it'd kind of be a waste for one lil' 1920x1080 monitor though. http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-gigabyte-gtx-660-ti-windforce-2x-28nm-pcie-30-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-941mhz-boost-1019mhz-cores-1344- http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7950-overclocked-5000mhz-gddr5-830mhz-1792-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-hdmi-2x-mini-dp http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-evga-gtx-670-28nm-pcie-30-(x16)-6008mhz-gddr5-gpu-915mhz-boost-980mhz-cores-1344-2x-dl-dvi-dp-hd Recommended: Sapphire 7950 Supporting Components: 207 pounds Fractal Design R3 - sound dampening case BeQuiet! System Power 450w - PSU Samsung 830 128gb SSD DVD-burner http://www.scan.co.uk/products/fractal-design-define-r3-usb-30-black-pearl-mid-tower-case-new-cable-routing-noise-absorbing-w-o-psu http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-be-quiet-bn090-system-power-s6-80-plus-atx-psu http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-samsung-830-series-ssd-basic-kit-sata-iii-read-520mb-s-write-320mb-s http://www.scan.co.uk/products/samsung-writemaster-sh-s222bb-bebe-22x-dvdr-12x-dvdr-dvdplusrw-x8-rw-x6-sata-black-oem Total (tower only, including tax, not including windows or shipping): 725 pounds P.S. Personally, I'd monitor before going to SLI or Crossfire, so I prefer the 7950. P.P.S. I linked out-of-stock components assuming you were comfortable checking other retailers for the same parts. Would it work if I replace the i5-3550 with a Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz instead? couoldn't find the i5-3550 anywhere :s And would a CORSAIR GS 600W work instead? couldn't find the "BeQuiet" one either :< if one of these doesn't work, mind suggesting something else that would be able to work with the rest of the build? Thanks  | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
XFX Core 450w (or the more expensive XXX version, which is modular) Antec Earthwatts 430w Antec Neo Eco 450w any Antec High Current Gamer 400w+ any of the BeQuiet! 430w units any of the Seasonic 430w units I think there's a Super Flower Amazon in this range too most of the Corsairs in this range (the cx v2s) are actually not very good, but there's sometimes an ok 400w one. The above with slightly higher wattage as well. There's some others, I'm sure. You just have to make sure to not go with a crappy brand .The original BeQuiet! I linked above was in stock when I linked it though  Edit: still says it's in stock at scan.co.uk. | ||
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Fog-of-War
United States103 Posts
I'll probably order parts from Newegg, but open to other suggestions. Budget: About $1200. It's not a big deal if it's a bit over, or if I can get what I need for less that's great too. Resolution: 1080p 1920x1080 Using for: Gaming(sc2 (d3?)) and possibly some low-mid quality streaming(new to that too) Upgrade Cycle: about 3 years. When: This week hopefully. Overclocking: I don't think so. Don't really want to risk it on my first build. Operating system: I need one Crossfire/SLI: Do I really need it? | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On August 26 2012 23:42 Fog-of-War wrote: This would be my first build(I'll find youtube links etc in the thread). I'm thinking I'll do the build this week if I can get all the parts together. I'm looking to get into the computer/gaming world more, and I need a nice set up to do that. I'll probably order parts from Newegg, but open to other suggestions. Budget: About $1200. It's not a big deal if it's a bit over, or if I can get what I need for less that's great too. Resolution: 1080p 1920x1080 Using for: Gaming(sc2 (d3?)) and possibly some low-mid quality streaming(new to that too) Upgrade Cycle: about 3 years. When: This week hopefully. Overclocking: I don't think so. Don't really want to risk it on my first build. Operating system: I need one Crossfire/SLI: Do I really need it? i5-3470 & DVD Burner $206.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1025092 ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX & Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $179.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1032602 Cooler Master Hyper 212EVO $34.99 ($29.99AMIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 SAPPHIRE HD7870 & Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v $290.98 ($275.98AMIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1037364 Samsung 830 Series 128GB SATA III SSD $118.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 7200RPM HDD & Corsair 300R Windowed $151.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1031734 Rosewill Capstone 450M $63.99 with promocode RWCP2008, ends 8/29 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261 Total: $1027.89AMIR There some luxuriates in this build but with your budget they make sense. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On August 26 2012 23:42 Fog-of-War wrote: + Show Spoiler + This would be my first build(I'll find youtube links etc in the thread). I'm thinking I'll do the build this week if I can get all the parts together. I'm looking to get into the computer/gaming world more, and I need a nice set up to do that. I'll probably order parts from Newegg, but open to other suggestions. Budget: About $1200. It's not a big deal if it's a bit over, or if I can get what I need for less that's great too. Resolution: 1080p 1920x1080 Using for: Gaming(sc2 (d3?)) and possibly some low-mid quality streaming(new to that too) Upgrade Cycle: about 3 years. When: This week hopefully. Overclocking: I don't think so. Don't really want to risk it on my first build. Operating system: I need one Crossfire/SLI: Do I really need it? Overclocking can give you the extra oomph needed for a decent quality stream without impacting SC2 performance. (Though it is not necessary.) It costs about $100 in more expensive components, but isn't that hard to do or risky if you follow an online guide, as you seem capable of doing. I'm assuming you're doing more gaming than just Blizzard games. Blizzard games tend to not need much GPU power, but other games benefit from quite a bit. I included a powerful, expensive GPU, but if you only play a couple Blizz games, you don't need the oomph. Crossfire/SLI is pretty pointless if you're just on a 1920x1080 resolution. It's beneficial for larger resolutions or multi-monitor gaming. I did not include it (or the PSU/motherboard potential to upgrade to two video cards) in this build. CPU: i5-3570k ($220) Overclockable, though you don't have to. You can go for the cheaper non-overclockable i5-3450, 3470, 3550, or 3570 if you are certain you won't overclock. http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541&vpn=BX80637I53570K&manufacture=Others&promoid=1088 Motherboard: Gigabyte z77-ds3h ($108) Overclocking motherboard. You can go for a cheaper B75 or H77 motherboard for about $20 less if you're certain you won't overclock. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128547 CPU Cooler: Coolermaster 212 Evo ($29) Only needed if overclocking. You can discard if you're not going to do so (or add later if you decide to leave the option open by getting the above two components). http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64385&vpn=RR-212E-20PK-R2&manufacture=COOLERMASTER RAM: 2x4gb 1600mhz kit ($41) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544 Video Card: 660ti or 7950 ($300 or $328 - $20 rebate) 660ti if you're happy with your current monitor & don't think you'd change it any time soon. 7950 if you'd consider moving to a larger monitor (resolution) sometime in the next year or so. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127697 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102989 Case: Fractal Design R3 ($80) mildly sound-dampening. Also available in Silver. http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63334&vpn=FD-CA-DEF-R3-USB3-BL&manufacture=Fractal Design&promoid=1371 PSU: XFX Core 450w ($56 - $10 rebate) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&vpn=P1450SX2B9&manufacture=XFX SSD: Intel 330 120gb ($103) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167121 HDD: Hitachi Desktar 2TB ($90) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60343&vpn=0F12115&manufacture=Hitachi&promoid=1371 Storage is getting cheap again. DVD-burner ($13) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1371 Windows 7 ($80) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1371 Total (660ti, including shipping, not including rebates): $1120 | ||
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TehWyLD
Canada18 Posts
Current Build = case - Antec Sonata III proc - AMD Phenom II x4 980 Black 3.7 Ghz mobo - Crosshair V Formula ram - 8gb patriot ddr3 1600 (4gb x2) ssd - Corsair Force III Series 120GB gpu - Asus GeForce ENGTX 560 Ti DCII 1 GB, Asus GeForce ENGTX 560 Ti DCII 1 GB (x2 in SLI) psu - OCZ 700W ModXstream Pro heatsink - stock o/s Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Budget: $4-500. Resolution: 1920x1080 Using for: Gaming mostly (SC2, CS:S, LoL, flavor of the month games etc) and some streaming eventually. Upgrade Cycle: 8 Months. When: 1 week. Overclocking: Yes I would like to overclock. Operating system: I have a Windows 7 Disc. Crossfire/SLI: Yes. I have 2 graphics cards I would like to continue using. Thanks for your time. =) | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On August 27 2012 01:35 TehWyLD wrote: I am looking to upgrade my ***motherboard+processor+heatsink*** to something that will be able to stream on high quality and ideally play some high end games down the road. I would like to go with Intel since they seem... better. I already have a system built, im just looking for these particualr parts so I hope this is the right thread. My friend built this PC for me back when i knew even less about PCs so i realize some things are a little wonky. Current Build = case - Antec Sonata III proc - AMD Phenom II x4 980 Black 3.7 Ghz mobo - Crosshair V Formula + Show Spoiler + ram - 8gb patriot ddr3 1600 (4gb x2) ssd - Corsair Force III Series 120GB gpu - Asus GeForce ENGTX 560 Ti DCII 1 GB, Asus GeForce ENGTX 560 Ti DCII 1 GB (x2 in SLI) psu - OCZ 700W ModXstream Pro heatsink - stock o/s Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Budget: $4-500. Resolution: 1920x1080 Using for: Gaming mostly (SC2, CS:S, LoL, flavor of the month games etc) and some streaming eventually. Upgrade Cycle: 8 Months. When: 1 week. Overclocking: Yes I would like to overclock. Operating system: I have a Windows 7 Disc. Crossfire/SLI: Yes. I have 2 graphics cards I would like to continue using. Thanks for your time. =) While Intel processors are better, unless you play tons of 4v4s, your current processor is decent. It might be able to handle streaming on medium settings to your satisfaction as well, particularly if you overclock. You might consider throwing on an after-market heatsink (most fit both AMD & Intel setups, in case you want to upgrade later), trying for a high overclock, and seeing if you get the performance you desire without an upgrade. | ||
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BeanerBurrito
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Processor: intel i7 3770k Memory: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin SDRAM DDR3 2133 Hard Drive: intel 520 120GB sata 3 ssd Video Card: msi twin frozr II nvidia gtx 570 Motherboard: asus p8z77-v Power Supply: seasonicx x650 gold 650w psu Operating System: windows 7 64 bit Heat sink: coolermaster 212 plus Case: corsair obsidian 650d Questions: I may use an nvidia gtx 260 as a dedicated physx card, will the power supply be good enough? What kind of overclocking could i expect considering the heat sink, case, and processor? What are the best free antivirus and/or firewall applications? Any other comments or suggestions? Thanks for your time and help. | ||
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Arlyne
United States5 Posts
I've never done anything like this, and am building it from absolute scratch. Budget: $1200 Resolution: I don't have a monitor! Use: Gaming (SC2, GW2, WoW), streaming Upgrade Cycle: Not a clue! When do I plan on building it: September Overclocking: I don't know anything about overclocking. If it's necessary, sure. Operating System: I need one. Second GPU: I don't know. If necessary, sure. Where: Newegg.com A monitor that can double up as a TV to play Xbox on would be superb, but not necessary if it's too pricey. Basically, I'm just looking to get a good solid gaming computer. Again, I've never done anything like this before and want all the help I can get. The only things I feel comfortable getting on my own are the keyboard, mouse, and mousepad-literally everything else to do with building a computer I'm ignorant of. Thanks in advance! | ||
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Absurd Bunny
168 Posts
I don't need it to be the fastest, I just want it to run games smooth, be able to play music while playing games (and having my browser open, my mac can't handle that) and just not fail on me. I'm not sure if I want to overclock, but if it doesn't break on me then I'm okay with doing it. I don't have any OS and I need a monitor, which will go into the price too. I don't really need parts or anything, I just need a budget to work for, since I don't know how much one of those are going to cost me when I get it. I don't need any other peripherals other than making the computer and getting the parts itself, and I don't need Windows 8 whenever it plans to come out, but if it's the same price as windows 7 I might. P.S. How does the monitor size affect what other parts you should get for your computer? I didn't know the size of the monitor affected the parts you should get that badly.. What is a normal size that people get for their monitor? | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On August 27 2012 06:11 Absurd Bunny wrote: What is the lowest I can go for making a normal gaming computer? I don't need it to be the fastest, I just want it to run games smooth, be able to play music while playing games (and having my browser open, my mac can't handle that) and just not fail on me. I'm not sure if I want to overclock, but if it doesn't break on me then I'm okay with doing it. I don't have any OS and I need a monitor, which will go into the price too. I don't really need parts or anything, I just need a budget to work for, since I don't know how much one of those are going to cost me when I get it. I don't need any other peripherals other than making the computer and getting the parts itself, and I don't need Windows 8 whenever it plans to come out, but if it's the same price as windows 7 I might. P.S. How does the monitor size affect what other parts you should get for your computer? I didn't know the size of the monitor affected the parts you should get that badly.. What is a normal size that people get for their monitor? Around $750USD Resolution means more than size. The higher the resolution the more pixels is needed, thus your GPU will need to do more work to display the image. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On August 27 2012 05:58 Arlyne wrote: + Show Spoiler + Heyo, I'm Arlyne, and I'm ignorant when it comes to building computers! I've never done anything like this, and am building it from absolute scratch. Budget: $1200 Resolution: I don't have a monitor! Use: Gaming (SC2, GW2, WoW), streaming Upgrade Cycle: Not a clue! When do I plan on building it: September Overclocking: I don't know anything about overclocking. If it's necessary, sure. Operating System: I need one. Second GPU: I don't know. If necessary, sure. Where: Newegg.com A monitor that can double up as a TV to play Xbox on would be superb, but not necessary if it's too pricey. Basically, I'm just looking to get a good solid gaming computer. Again, I've never done anything like this before and want all the help I can get. The only things I feel comfortable getting on my own are the keyboard, mouse, and mousepad-literally everything else to do with building a computer I'm ignorant of. Thanks in advance! Your budget is kind of difficult as it's higher than go budget on every part, but not high enough to get everything you'd want. The main things pulling at each other are: CPU strength (especially for streaming), GPU strength (maximizing graphics quality potential), and monitor size/resolution (games can't look awesome if they're not on a good monitor). One thing you may need to decide is how important streaming at a high quality is to you. Basically, SC2 and guild wars 2 both use a fair amount of CPU power. Now just running the games is easy enough, but streaming on top of that is fairly difficult for your processor, at least if you want to put out 720+ quality. Overclocking will help, but it costs more in higher quality components(~$100). If you don't want to stream beyond 480p, then no problem. Want to stream beyond that reliably? You should overclock. I put together a non-overclocking solution, as most people list streaming because they just vaguely want the potential. When it comes to GPU, I went less expensive than your budget could permit if put together differently. Usually maximizing GPU is best for a gaming machine, but the three games you listed are not the most demanding games when it comes to needed graphics power. GPU power has zero effect on streaming, by the way. As for monitor, well, the larger the better - and this applies to resolution more than physical size. I'm recommending one of the Korean 27" 2560x1440 monitors, which cost about $350 or so. They're generally purchased through e-bay, as they're hard to find here in the states. Microcenter, a brick & mortar store, usually carries some if you're close to a microcenter. Also, you can save some money on CPU+ mobo if you live near a microcenter, which could be a great way to negate the extra cost of overclocking. Anyway, that was some "I know nothing about computers" basic introduction. Here's the parts I recommend: + Show Spoiler + Monitor: Nixeus Vue 27" 2560x1440 monitor (glossy, I think) ($430) http://www.compuplus.com/Monitor/Nixeus-Vue-WQHD-27inch-S-1218348.html This is the major, big-ticket item for your budget. I figured monitors generally last longer than computer towers, so might as well start with quality right here. Note this is more expensive than the true Korean monitors, but coming from a U.S. retailer you have proper warranty support. Microcenter may have a competitor for cheaper, and the ebay search terms if you want to take a small chance to save $100 are achevia shimian, yamasaki catleap, and probably some others. Much bigger & higher resolution than your standard computer monitor. I assume this will play XBox fine over HDMI, especially if you set the Xbox to 720p mode? I could be wrong. 27" might seem smaller from TV distance though. This model not available till mid-Sept. Mouse: Mionix Naos 3200 ($50) http://www.amazon.com/Mionix-Naos-Wired-LED-optical-Mouse/dp/B0041SPG24/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1346012793&sr=1-1&keywords=mionix naos 3200 Yeah you can pick this out yourself, but I highly recommend this mouse for both gaming & casual use. Just so comfy and ergonomic (for a right-hander). CPU: i5-3570 ($210) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72278&vpn=BX80637I53570&manufacture=Intel Not overclockable, but should be able to handle any of the games you specified, including streaming (see above). Mobo: Asrock H77m ($70) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303 Fairly cheap. Works great! Won't have room for more add-on cards other than one video card + one more (sound card, whatever). That should be plenty for your purposes. RAM: 2x4gb 1600mhz kit ($41) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544 GPU: Sapphire 7850 ($216) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998 This is where we're going a bit cheap for your budget. Should still max SC2, WoW, and probably play GW2 on high graphics settings, even with the big monitor though. Case: Bit Fenix Outlaw ($40) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1371 PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450c ($35) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO-ECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1088 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167121 Put windows, WoW & commonly use programs here so they load zoom-zoom fast. HDD: Hitachi Desktar 2TB ($90) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60343&vpn=0F12115&manufacture=Hitachi&promoid=1371 Storage is getting cheap again. Put everything not on the SSD here. DVD-burner ($13) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1371 Windows 7 ($80) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1371 (no SSD, keyboard, speakers, also I'm cheating by using the $1300 in your original post, so its over budget, though you didn't say to include mouse) Total: $1275 That budget went over, and also didn't fit the SSD (the crossed-out component). You could fit that by going for an e-bay Korean 27" monitor rather than the one I linked though. Or you could go under budget & get the SSD by forgetting the big 27" monitor and getting a good 23" monitor like a Dell u2312hm. | ||
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