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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 23 2012 18:50 GMT
#24221
It's still $70-80 over decent 120-128GB SSDs (Crucial M4, Samsung 830, Intel 330, etc.). It's a good deal, but if you don't need that much storage to be fast, then it's not really worth your money.

Just check how much space Windows and your programs take (or maybe, the programs you actually use more than once in a long time). If it's above 80GB, then maybe you should think about larger models.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 23 2012 18:58 GMT
#24222
On August 24 2012 03:50 Kiromaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 03:44 skyR wrote:
Buy it and install it yourself. Nothing compares to a Samsung 830 256gb at $180.


Is it easy to install, even for a complete computer novice such as myself?


My 3 year old son has the needed mechanical and motor skills. No exaggeration. I let him play with dead components.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 23 2012 19:06 GMT
#24223
I think people are more concerned with knowing what goes where, but (aside from the motherboard-to-front-panel connections) everything only fits one way: the correct way. And as for knowing what to plug in, you can consult a manual, a guide, or watch a 15-minute video.

For installing an SSD in particular, you would need to put a few screws into a tray and hook up two cables, one from the power supply and one from the motherboard. It would look like the hard drive already installed, so if you couldn't figure it out from that, I wouldn't know what to say.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
August 23 2012 19:14 GMT
#24224
You can find it on ncix
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=74136&vpn=MZ-7PC256B/WW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage
Or I am blind and missing something?
I think you would still need to buy windows for them to put it together for $50.
I would offer to help if u were in Montreal but it really is easy. Just font be scared when u hear a crunch while inserting the CPU in the motherboard.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 23 2012 19:17 GMT
#24225
I just realized I'm a dumbass and linked to tigerdirect.com instead of .ca ..so it never existed for $180 doh.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 23 2012 20:12 GMT
#24226
how hard is it to put together a brand new computer for a first timer? i've heard it is easy, it is the hardest thing you can ever do in your life, or its moderate but you need to be careful
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 23 2012 20:23 GMT
#24227
On August 24 2012 05:12 Grampz wrote:
how hard is it to put together a brand new computer for a first timer? i've heard it is easy, it is the hardest thing you can ever do in your life, or its moderate but you need to be careful


The required skillset: Use a screwdriver. Read. Match corresponding shaped plugs. We frequently compare it to Lego, but that's unfair, any Lego can attach to any other Lego, unlike the majority of the cables in a computer.

There's some excellent guides available on Youtube, I suggest the Hardware Canucks one.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
August 24 2012 00:18 GMT
#24228
I have nothing to add to these answer except for one thing: i was in the exact same position as you one week ago, and it went so sleek, I mean E Z P Z! Just take your time, allow you to think twice before doing anything (and maybe more when you are going to do the cable routing), and it will be done without you noticing it
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Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
August 24 2012 01:29 GMT
#24229
Howdy. Could one of you kind ladies/gentlemen please give this a look-over before I hit "order"?

Case: Antec Three Hundred Two, $49.99
SSD: Samsung 830 128GB, $109.99
MB: ASRock Z77 Pro 3, $84.99
CPU: Intel i5 3570k, 219.99$
RAM: 2x4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz, $38.99
DVD: Some cheap god damn thing, $18.99
Cooler: Scythe Mugen 3, $36.99
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti, $289.99
PSU: XFX 550W Pro Series, 49.99$
OS: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit, $119.98

Total: $1020

Already have a bigger HDD to complement the SSD, naturally.
I like things.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 01:51:23
August 24 2012 01:47 GMT
#24230
Zero problems whatsoever with that build.

Edit: Wait a moment. It might be a good idea to swap out the memory because it runs at 1.65V. You're looking for any DDR3 kit that runs at 1.5V.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 01:57:49
August 24 2012 01:56 GMT
#24231
Windows 7 Home Premium is $98: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1088

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984&promoid=1088 is cheaper.

Kingston HyperX runs at 1.65v, a 1.5v kit is only $1 more: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1088

You can pricematch the GTX 660 Ti to $300: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD8287

Rest is okay.
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:06:31
August 24 2012 02:03 GMT
#24232
Thanks. Totally missed the RAM voltage, and no godly idea how I got that price on Windows.
I like things.
SuperPro
Profile Joined February 2012
99 Posts
August 24 2012 02:16 GMT
#24233
Is it better to have low voltage ram? I noticed you pointed to 1.5 as more desirable than 1.65. I suppose lower voltage, less heat? But wouldn't that mean more current?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:27:03
August 24 2012 02:26 GMT
#24234
On August 24 2012 11:16 SuperPro wrote:
Is it better to have low voltage ram? I noticed you pointed to 1.5 as more desirable than 1.65. I suppose lower voltage, less heat? But wouldn't that mean more current?


Meh. Intel boards are rated only for 1.5v, so 1.65 volt ram is technically out-of-specification. On the other hand, it works fine. When I purchased my computer, I suffered from an epic mis-click (2x2gb 1.65v RAM in a combo instead of the correct combo with 2x4gb 1.5v RAM at the same price, T.T), and the 1.65v RAM works fine even with a cheap H61 mobo.

With even lower voltage RAM (1.35v or whatever), you can up the voltage and overclock the RAM, even though it's kind of silly.

So yeah, it's better, and the prices are close enough it's best to always get 1.5v with an Intel computer. But it's nowhere near a big deal.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 24 2012 02:57 GMT
#24235
On August 24 2012 11:16 SuperPro wrote:
Is it better to have low voltage ram? I noticed you pointed to 1.5 as more desirable than 1.65. I suppose lower voltage, less heat? But wouldn't that mean more current?

Lower voltage would mean more current if power draw were fixed. If you run the RAM at a lower voltage, the power draw will decrease. Lower voltage for a transistor means less current flows through, so with less current flowing throughout the device, you would probably expect lower parasitic losses.

Secondly, there's the matter of manufacturing process. I think the 1.65V-rated RAM at standard speeds may be older models using a larger lithography, so they may be using 65nm as opposed to 45nm (completely guessing on the feature size here), or something like that?
Rigel of Cyrosea
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada66 Posts
August 24 2012 17:51 GMT
#24236
I'm a newbie when it comes to building and parts. I'm looking to build for the first time pretty soon, but even after doing some research the selection of parts is a bit overwhelming. Maybe someone could help me out?

The questions from the first page:
+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: About $1000. It's not a big deal if it's a bit over, or if I can get what I need for less that's great too.

Resolution: 1080p 1920x1080

Using for: Gaming and coding.

Upgrade Cycle: about 2 years.

When: Soon. Hoping to order parts within the next couple of weeks.

Overclocking: I don't think so. Don't really want to risk it on my first build.

Operating system: I need one

Crossfire/SLI: Not planning on that. I don't think have the budget.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
August 24 2012 18:06 GMT
#24237
On August 25 2012 02:51 Rigel of Cyrosea wrote:
I'm a newbie when it comes to building and parts. I'm looking to build for the first time pretty soon, but even after doing some research the selection of parts is a bit overwhelming. Maybe someone could help me out?

The questions from the first page:
+ Show Spoiler +
Budget: About $1000. It's not a big deal if it's a bit over, or if I can get what I need for less that's great too.

Resolution: 1080p 1920x1080

Using for: Gaming and coding.

Upgrade Cycle: about 2 years.

When: Soon. Hoping to order parts within the next couple of weeks.

Overclocking: I don't think so. Don't really want to risk it on my first build.

Operating system: I need one

Crossfire/SLI: Not planning on that. I don't think have the budget.


does the budget include monitor? and can you get windows from school for free?
Xiniun
Profile Joined November 2011
14 Posts
August 24 2012 20:56 GMT
#24238
What is your budget?
800£

What is your resolution?
1920x1080.

What are you using it for?
Gaming, and maybe some low-mid quality streaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
Maybe 3-4 years?

When do you plan on building it?
In the upcoming one or two weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?
no

Do you need an Operating System?
no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes maybe in a year or so.

Where are you buying your parts from?
http://www.pricerunner.com/

I would like an SSD harddrive if that is managable, because I've got an external harddrive which I save all the heavy data on.
I will be running windows 7 if that makes any difference.

Thanks beforehand!
Suspend
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 21:30:05
August 24 2012 21:28 GMT
#24239
What is your budget?

~500 USD

What is your resolution?

720p or 1080p.

What are you using it for?

Web browsing, word processing, photoshop.

What is your upgrade cycle?

4+ years.

When do you plan on building it?

Between Fall & Winter.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg mostly, there's a Fry's about 30 minutes away though.

Uh... I don't really need a case or harddrive, as I can frankenstein that from elsewhere. However, if budget allows, then a cheap case would be nice.
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
August 24 2012 23:44 GMT
#24240
So I am going to be ordering parts tomorrow from newegg and I want to make sure that all of these parts are able to do what I wish for them to accomplish. First of all I only am going to play sc2 on this computer and at medium quality while on skype/listening to music. I am hoping to get an average of around 60 fps with this build while doing those things that were just specified. So without further adieu, here are all my parts! please leave feedback it would be greatly appreciated!

Hard Drive--Western Digital AV-GP WD3200AUDX 320GB IntelliPower SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

GPU--SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (11192-22-20G)

PSU--COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAD3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC

RAM--Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory

Motherboard--ASRock B75M LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU--Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000

Optical Drive--SAMSUNG Internal DVD Writer Black SATA Model SH-222BB/RSBS
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