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When the sale starts, do you think you could recommend me a build with my budget and everything?
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Thanks for the recommendation. Do you think SLI is worth it if I'll be playing games like bf3, guild wars 2? Or should one card usually do the trick, and upgrade it later on.
I hope skyr also recommends me a build, Guild wars comes out soon and I don't have a PC to run it, so I'm hoping to get this built very soon. Thanks again for the reply, appreciate it
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A single card can definitely run games at 1920x1080 (580 has 55fps, to me +30 is good)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-7.html
a 660Ti is close to 580 depending on the game: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/517?vs=647
In general, 2 cards isnt a good idea as a 2nd card doesnt scale 100% (fps doesnt go from 40 to 80), and because a single card can give you a great fps at resolutions of 1920x1080 and under.
If you didnt have a card, it would be simple, just buy a 660Ti at $300 but since you have a card already, i cant be 100% sure what is the best way.
skyr should drop by at some point, just give it a few hours 
Edit: Btw, I forgot a dvd player, you can just get the one you had from tigerdirect. I would still recommend not going for SLI but whatever you do, make sure you do some research, for example:
I dont think the motherboard you had selected previously is even SLI compatible.
You get almost 0 gain in gaming from the i7 that you had selected (which is ~100$ more)
You will probably never use more than 4GB of ram (so no need for 16)
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What is the minimum psu wattage for a 560ti graphics card? assume i5-2500 and single graphics card.
Read an article saying that 750 watt psu is needed:
+ Show Spoiler +Let's define some terms
Overclocking: Taking the out of box CPU/GPU (graphics card)/RAM settings (cpu's normally run at ~3.0GHz) and cranking it up to run faster (like making a CPU go at 4.0GHz). But by overclocking, the CPU/GPU/RAM generates more heat, therefore you need some better cooling.
SLI/Crossfire- Using 2 Nvidia (SLI) or AMD (Crossfire) video cards and connecting them with a cable to perform as one card, therefore producing better video quality. (2 GTX560Ti's is better than 1 GTX580)
BIOS configuring: Almost none, and most Motherboards have cool BIOS with mouse and stuff, so no more frightening DOS like stuff. (UEFI BIOS)
I would recommend a computer with:
CPU: Intel core i5 2500k
GPU: At least a GTX 560Ti (preferably a gtx570)
PSU: At least 750W from a respectable company (Seasonic, Corsair, antec)
Motherboard: A z68 chipset motherboard that is Intel socket 1155, and with revision B3
Check the local store and see if they have any of those, and if they do, come back and tell me the prices, then we can figure it out from there.
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Whatever article told you that a 750w PSU is needed for a GTX 560 Ti is a useless article.
Without overclocking on a Sandybridge system, you can run it on any quality 400w unit.
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Hey guys, I'm thinking of adding another video card to my desktop, but I'm not sure whether my PSU can support another card.
Currently, I'm using the following
2x4GB G.Skill 1333 DDR3 Ram
128GB SSD
2TB HDD
Intel i5-3450 77W
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6850
MSI H77MA-G43 motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130648
Rosewill Capstone 450W 80PlusGold PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
OEM DVD-RW Drive
Now, I plan on getting another HD6850 when I can find one on sale, but I'm not too sure if my PSU can handle it. The description of the PSU says it is Crossfire Ready but I've ready that 450W isn't enough, and I think I'll need at least 700W to crossfire?
Also, if I buy a new Video Card, can I crossfire it with lets say a 6970 or 6870 card or does it have to be a 6850 as well?
Do I have to buy the same brand video card or can i buy a different brand of card such as XFX or Gigabyte?
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The Capstone 450 is sufficient for a core i5 3450 and Crossfire 6850 without overclocking. A 6850 only consumes about 100w while a 3450 will be around 50w, both during load.
In order to do Crossfire, you need another 6850 or 6870. The brands can be different.
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On August 23 2012 13:26 mardi wrote:Hey guys, I'm thinking of adding another video card to my desktop, but I'm not sure whether my PSU can support another card. Currently, I'm using the following 2x4GB G.Skill 1333 DDR3 Ram 128GB SSD 2TB w Intel i5-3450 77W Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6850 MSI H77MA-G43 motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130648Rosewill Capstone 450W 80PlusGold PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066OEM DVD-RW Drive Now, I plan on getting another HD6850 when I can find one on sale, but I'm not too sure if my PSU can handle it. The description of the PSU says it is Crossfire Ready but I've ready that 450W isn't enough, and I think I'll need at least 700W to crossfire? Also, if I buy a new Video Card, can I crossfire it with lets say a 6970 or 6870 card or does it have to be a 6850 as well? Do I have to buy the same brand video card or can i buy a different brand of card such as XFX or Gigabyte?
Cfx on a 6850 can be done with a 6870, 6850 or 6790, but it will be limited by the slowest card I think. It can be from any manufacturer, although try to get a reference blower for crossfire, as it shunts the hot air out of the case. Don't worry about advertised clockspeeds, you can change these with msi afterburner manually to get performance that suits your thermal situation.
A capstone 450w should be fine for those two cards + your cpu.
EDIT: derp ninja'd.
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On August 23 2012 13:38 Rollin wrote:
Cfx on a 6850 can be done with a 6870, 6850 or 6790, but it will be limited by the slowest card I think. It can be from any manufacturer, although try to get a reference blower for crossfire, as it shunts the hot air out of the case. Don't worry about advertised clockspeeds, you can change these with msi afterburner manually to get performance that suits your thermal situation.
A capstone 450w should be fine for those two cards + your cpu.
EDIT: derp ninja'd.
What is a reference blower? I'm assuming a case fan? Could you recommend me one. I have this case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147161
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He's talking about the graphics card cooler design with a single radial fan that pushes along air under the shroud down the length of the card and mostly out of the case. These get most of the heat out of the case, but they're noisier and less efficient for single-GPU setups than more open-air cooling designs with axial fans.
Like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130771
Often times the reference designs by AMD and Nvidia use blowers (hence "reference blower"), so all or most cards on most product launches have that kind of design. Almost all non-reference designs that Asus / Gigabyte / MSI / XFX / whoever come up with later don't use blowers.
It's probably difficult to find any HD 6800 series cards with blowers these days.
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A blower heatsink has its fan positioned at the back of the heatsink. It takes in air and blows it through the heatsink and out the case, hence the name blower. You won't find these anymore, at least not brand new.
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I think my question has been asked a million times, but I'm asking it again anyway. I want to build a computer that will run sc2 on low-medium settings and maintain at least 30 fps even in big 200/200 battles. I have no interest in any other games, or anything that will test the computer more than sc2. I do not have an OS, monitor, keyboard/mouse, etc, so it will be 100% from scratch. I want to go ultra low budget, and if I could get the entire package for less than $500, I would be a happy camper.
Any suggestions on components, or another thread or article that can point me in the right direction? I'm computer n00bish.
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On August 23 2012 14:54 skyR wrote:
A blower heatsink has its fan positioned at the back of the heatsink. It takes in air and blows it through the heatsink and out the case, hence the name blower. You won't find these anymore, at least not brand new.
My bad, I've seen blower models on newer released cards (albeit more powerful) so I assumed that you would be able to get 6850's with them.
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On August 23 2012 22:49 rogzardo wrote:
I think my question has been asked a million times, but I'm asking it again anyway. I want to build a computer that will run sc2 on low-medium settings and maintain at least 30 fps even in big 200/200 battles. I have no interest in any other games, or anything that will test the computer more than sc2. I do not have an OS, monitor, keyboard/mouse, etc, so it will be 100% from scratch. I want to go ultra low budget, and if I could get the entire package for less than $500, I would be a happy camper.
Any suggestions on components, or another thread or article that can point me in the right direction? I'm computer n00bish.
You may have to go with used, or erm... be creative. The big problem is windows/the os/peripherals. Here's a list of new components (over budget). Maybe you can use it to find something closer to your budget.
Monitor: Refurbished Asus VS229H-P 21.5" IPS ($131)
http://buycom-outlet.store.buy.com/p/asus-vs229h-p-21-5-led-backit-lcd-monitor-50-000-000-1-14ms-1920x1080/224928560.html
You might be able to save a few bucks going with the cheapest monitor possible, but here I might buck up for a bit more quality.
Mouse: Mionix Naos 3200 ($50)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041SPG24/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=07HAKZ9EWYBV4G2WJP9H&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
Similarly, this mouse is a bit expensive for the budget. It is, however, completely awesome, comfortable, and the best gaming mouse I've ever owned. Skimping on mouse not recommended.
Keyboard: Microsoft Cheapo ($7)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=61264&vpn=NZD-00033-SINGLE&manufacture=Microsoft&promoid=1371
now we get into the skimping
Speakers: Rosewill Cheapos ($10)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836280006
CPU: Pentium g630 ($68)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1029184
If you play lots of 3v3s or 4v4s, or really need to guarantee 30fps not just smoothness, you'll probably want to spring for a bit more clock speed, say a g860.
Motherboard: Asrock H61 u3s3 ($50)
(in combo above)
GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6670 ($65) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=73332&vpn=11192-12-20G&manufacture=SAPPHIRE
This weak GPU won't run SC2 as well as you want on ultra settings, but it'll handle med-low SC2. If you don't mind lowest, you can run with integrated graphics and drop this altogether.
RAM: Team 2x2gb 1333mhz ($22) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313102
Case: Bit Fenix Merc Beta ($30) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63257&vpn=BFC-MRC-100-KKX2-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1371
PSU: Antec Basiq 450w ($30) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62331&vpn=VP450&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1371
DVD-burner ($13) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60857&vpn=GH24NS70&manufacture=LG Electronics&promoid=1371
Hard Drive: Barracuda 500gb ($63) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1043
Windows 7: $80
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&vpn=GFC-02050&manufacture=Microsoft&promoid=1371
NOTE: A lot of this build was copy-pasted. Some NCIX specials may have expired.
Total: $619
In addition to looking for used components, you might check to see if there's a cheap premade deal that will essentially get you a free copy of windows 7. For just SC2, you need to make sure it has the right processor though.
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I'll be using this build for my new pc, thanks. Just one last question, since I can't build the computer myself, I'm going to get NCIX to build it for me, so I was wondering if there is another option instead of the samsung 830 from tigerdirect since I can't seem to find the same one on NCIX.
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Buy it and install it yourself. Nothing compares to a Samsung 830 256gb at $180.
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On August 24 2012 03:44 skyR wrote:
Buy it and install it yourself. Nothing compares to a Samsung 830 256gb at $180.
Is it easy to install, even for a complete computer novice such as myself?
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