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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On August 21 2012 01:06 Gumbi wrote: Isn't 4GB plenty for gaming? Is tere really any benefit for more than that? Usually it'll be fine. If you're also doing stuff on the side (watching a stream, browser open with a lot of tabs, etc...), it may become an issue. Since the price difference between 4 GB and 8 GB is very small, and since 8 GB will be enough for all non-specialized purposes, it's recommended to get 8 GB. | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On August 21 2012 01:11 Rannasha wrote: Usually it'll be fine. If you're also doing stuff on the side (watching a stream, browser open with a lot of tabs, etc...), it may become an issue. Since the price difference between 4 GB and 8 GB is very small, and since 8 GB will be enough for all non-specialized purposes, it's recommended to get 8 GB. I see where you're coming from. I mean, 8GB is only €30 these days. I would still argue that 4GB is sufficient. Windows 7 will eat about 1.3 of that, and a game will typically use less than 1.5GB (SC2 less than 800mb I believe), leaving plenty for any other running programmes. BUT, the extra breathing room is just about worth it, IMO, considering the price difference. But only just. | ||
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Hypeninja
United States9 Posts
I want to run SC2 and Stream! Budget Under $800! | ||
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CouchWarrior
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On August 21 2012 04:03 Hypeninja wrote: Someone build me a computer on Pcpartpicker! I want to run SC2 and Stream! Budget Under $800! At least answer the questions that were in the OP... + Show Spoiler + Important questions you should ask yourself If you request a build, please answer these questions. We will spend as much effort on your build as you spend on your answers to these questions! I urge people to abstain from providing builds unless all the questions are answered. What is your budget? This should be an obvious one, you should determine a price range that best describes how much you want to spend on your build. It makes it easier for people to make recommendations. What is your resolution? This is extremely important especially for a gaming machine. I see people all the time asking for a video card recommendation and 5 people reply "5850" and the person hasn't even given their gaming resolution; it turns out the person games at 1280x1024 and could have ended up wasting $200 on a card that is total and complete overkill for his resolution. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming? Some gaming with video encoding mixed in? Photoshop? Streaming? All this matters, you can end up spending a lot of money and not be able to do anything you wanted to or you can spend a lot of money on stuff you don't even want to do. What is your upgrade cycle? Knowing the answer to this question makes it easier for people to recommend CPU sockets and GPUs so you get the most for your money. A person with a longer upgrade (2+ years) cycle will probably end up spending more initially but end up saving more at the expense of some performance. On the other hand a person with a shorter upgrade cycle (1 - 2 years) wants to spend less initially so they can put more money toward their next build. When do you plan on building it? Computer parts shift in prices often. With the release of new products, exist prices may drop further. Even without the release of new prices, changes in supply can affect the price of a specific part. The HD 5850 was supposed to retail at the $260 mark, but in a mere 4-5 months after its release it climbed to top $300 for basic reference models. Do you plan on overclocking? If you plan on overclocking, the motherboard choice and heatsink choice will be affected. Enthusiast overclocking requires enthusiast heatsinks and at least a stable motherboard. A simple budget Foxconn motherboard will not be adequate for your overclocking needs! Do you need an Operating System? An OS is around $100. It affects how much of your budget we can spend on the actual hardware. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? CrossFire and SLI are powerful solutions that allow higher performance, but in order to utilize them, we have to choose motherboards and PSUs that can support the increased demands that Crossfire and SLI place on your components. Where are you buying your parts from? If you have a nearby Fry's or Microcenter you can utilize their deals. If you're in Europe you obviously cannot use Newegg/Fry's/Microcenter so we need to know where you are from to put together a list of parts from a website or area you can actually buy from. If you can't answer these questions, make sure you can answer them before you ask us to help you put together a list of parts for you. Every single question affects the build we will put together for you greatly so make sure you can answer them accurately! | ||
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glupe
Canada4 Posts
prices in cdn: ASUS GeForce GTX560 Ti 448CORE - $255, + $20 mail in rebate EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD Fermi - $265 EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Fermi - $255 all opinions and other suggestions would be helpfull, also what are your thoughts on ASRock motherboards. | ||
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glupe
Canada4 Posts
On August 21 2012 01:10 Ryps wrote: Should I buy a gtx 660 Ti now or will the price drop in 1 - 2 months ? Some places actually have back to school sales on right now. They should be here for the next few weeks so keep your eyes peeled on a good deal. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On August 21 2012 05:44 glupe wrote: I'm about to build a new PC, currently looking at video cards but I'm not sure which one of these are the better purchase. prices in cdn: ASUS GeForce GTX560 Ti 448CORE - $255, + $20 mail in rebate EVGA GeForce GTX 570 HD Fermi - $265 EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Fermi - $255 all opinions and other suggestions would be helpfull, also what are your thoughts on ASRock motherboards. None of those prices look all that great to me. The 570 is the clear winner of that group. The 560ti is the same price with no rebate as a simply better GPU. The 570 is superior to the 448, probably by enough to make $10 +not dealing with a rebate worth it. For a cheaper video card at about that level of performance, a 7850 for $240-$20 rebate http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=69494&vpn=GV-R785OC-2GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1043 or for a sbetter video card that's also more expensive, a 7950 for $300: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67951&vpn=H795F3G2M&manufacture=HIS | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 21 2012 06:47 MisterFred wrote: or for a sbetter video card that's also more expensive, a 7950 for $300: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67951&vpn=H795F3G2M&manufacture=HIS At $300 now you can get a GTX 660 Ti, which is comparable in performance, maybe better unless at high resolutions. It also has lower power consumption, and in the $300-310 range you can get something with good nonreference cooling (unlike what it looks like that HIS model has; some HIS IceQ models seem decent, but that's not one of them) Considering the price differences, I'd just suggest the Asus DirectCU II GTX 660 Ti for $300 unless the extra over $265 really can't be spared: http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=75428 | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
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Medrea
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
I was hoping to get some advice on my current parts list with regards to whether (1) it works together and (2) if there are cheaper equivalents options from what I chose or if something is terribly overkill. All help would be greatly appreciated. Getting this down closer to $1000.00 USD would be ideal. Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to assist.
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
I think you should be looking at these: ~$200 MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti @ 180-20MIR http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60642&vpn=N560GTX-Ti HAWK&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1382 Powercolor Radeon HD 7850 @ 200-20MIR http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69558&vpn=AX7850 2GBD5-2DH&manufacture=PowerColor&promoid=1043 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=547 ~$300 ASUS GeForce GTX 660 Ti @ 300 http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=75428 or depending on the games and resolution you play: MSI Radeon HD 7950 Twin Frozr III @ 330-30MIR http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70088&vpn=R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=647 ~between the two pricepoints Wait till there good deal on a 7870 @ low 200s (Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 - http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69492&vpn=GV-R787OC-2GD&manufacture=Gigabyte) | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:19 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Hey, I was wondering if someone with some better computer building expertise could give some advice to someone looking to build their own computer instead of buying a pre-made rig. Its meant to be a general all-purpose computer, although I would like to be able to game on it. A benchmark I was considering is being able to run Skyrim on good quality settings with good FPS, as well Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. I was hoping to get some advice on my current parts list with regards to whether (1) it works together and (2) if there are cheaper equivalents options from what I chose or if something is terribly overkill. All help would be greatly appreciated. Getting this down closer to $1000.00 USD would be ideal. Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to assist.
You can step down to an i5 of either ivy bridge or sandy bridge and save about $100 right there unless you know you need the hyperthreading (it doesnt do anything for gaming). 100 bucks Can step down from 16 gigs of RAM to 8. Ive never had a need for my 8 even. 40 bucks Onboard sound devices are fine now. Dont need a separate sound card unless you are an audiophile or something. 40 bucks Can get a cheaper case like a HAF 912 which will hold your computer just fine. 30 bucks Power supply is unnecessarily powerful. Can drop to a CAPSTONE 450W. 50 bucks Not sure if Blue ray drive is really important. Save you about $260 at no loss to performance. $310 if you forget about the Blu ray drive. $330 if you go like me and have no optical drive. An additional $10 if you go with a Hyper 212+ cooler. That Motherboard is fine, but you can also save a few bucks here. Do you need an OS? | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On August 21 2012 09:27 Medrea wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2012 09:19 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Hey, I was wondering if someone with some better computer building expertise could give some advice to someone looking to build their own computer instead of buying a pre-made rig. Its meant to be a general all-purpose computer, although I would like to be able to game on it. A benchmark I was considering is being able to run Skyrim on good quality settings with good FPS, as well Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. I was hoping to get some advice on my current parts list with regards to whether (1) it works together and (2) if there are cheaper equivalents options from what I chose or if something is terribly overkill. All help would be greatly appreciated. Getting this down closer to $1000.00 USD would be ideal. Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to assist.
You can step down to an i5 of either ivy bridge or sandy bridge and save about $100 right there unless you know you need the hyperthreading (it doesnt do anything for gaming). 100 bucks Can step down from 16 gigs of RAM to 8. Ive never had a need for my 8 even. 40 bucks Onboard sound devices are fine now. Dont need a separate sound card unless you are an audiophile or something. 40 bucks Can get a cheaper case like a HAF 912 which will hold your computer just fine. 30 bucks Power supply is unnecessarily powerful. Can drop to a CAPSTONE 450W. 50 bucks Not sure if Blue ray drive is really important. Save you about $260 at no loss to performance. $310 if you forget about the Blu ray drive. $330 if you go like me and have no optical drive. An additional $10 if you go with a Hyper 212+ cooler. That Motherboard is fine, but you can also save a few bucks here. Do you need an OS? I will definitely look into your suggestions for the parts, sounds good. As for the OS. I don't actually know. I got my current Windows 7 64-bit for free through my University, but I am not sure if I can transfer it over or not. I think I had only one voucher credited to me. If it is possible to move it over to the new computer then I'll drop it. I can't just pop out my HDD from my laptop, toss it into my new computer and smooth like that right? *Edit* Also, is there a noticable difference between sandy and ivy bridge i5's? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
And yeah you should just be able to pop your laptop drive onto the board of the new computer, not that we would suggest actually running the system like that forever. Laptop drives are usually slow 5400 RPM drives. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
 You might be able to pop over the old hard drive and boot up, but I wouldn't recommend trying it. Some drivers may be different etc, so when you change to new hardware you should reinstall windows. That shouldn't wipe the drive though. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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