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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 01:17:04
July 01 2012 01:15 GMT
#23081
Even the 1000w psu is wayyyy overkill, go with maybe a 600w 750w.\

edit: that 7970 will not use as much as you think. Get a 750w then if you want and call it a day, you will not nearly get close to 750w but it's up to you.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
InseKtSC2
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States173 Posts
July 01 2012 01:16 GMT
#23082
On July 01 2012 10:15 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote:
Even the 1000w psu is wayyyy overkill, go with maybe a 600w 750w.


site says i need at least 850 bc of video card
InseKt North American Zerg Player Facebook: facebook.com/InseKtSC2 Twitter: @InseKtSC2 Stream: twitch.tv/InseKtSC2
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 01 2012 01:16 GMT
#23083
On July 01 2012 10:15 InseKtSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:13 MisterFred wrote:
It's pointlessly large. Your setup won't use more than 400w if you don't overclock it. Overclocking won't use more than 500w, off the top of my head.


i need at least 850 because of the video card


No, you don't. The ibuypower website is lying.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
InseKtSC2
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States173 Posts
July 01 2012 01:17 GMT
#23084
On July 01 2012 10:16 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:15 InseKtSC2 wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:13 MisterFred wrote:
It's pointlessly large. Your setup won't use more than 400w if you don't overclock it. Overclocking won't use more than 500w, off the top of my head.


i need at least 850 because of the video card


No, you don't. The ibuypower website is lying.


Uhh idk man.. no offense but i kinda trust that over one person lol
InseKt North American Zerg Player Facebook: facebook.com/InseKtSC2 Twitter: @InseKtSC2 Stream: twitch.tv/InseKtSC2
InseKtSC2
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States173 Posts
July 01 2012 01:18 GMT
#23085
Anyhow point being, should i overclock to 20% or not?

Like is it safe with my build.
InseKt North American Zerg Player Facebook: facebook.com/InseKtSC2 Twitter: @InseKtSC2 Stream: twitch.tv/InseKtSC2
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 01:42:36
July 01 2012 01:19 GMT
#23086
Hey, I'm trying to help my gf pick out a new laptop to buy. Even though the format didn't fit perfectly, I tried to answer the questions as best as I could. Keep in mind, she lives in Canada so she would be buying from a Canadian retailer.

What is your budget?
$1000 ish

What is your resolution?
probably 1366x768 (trying to keep a budget), any screen size she says is ok, from 14-17 inches

What are you using it for?
Some gaming but mostly web surfing and entertainment like movies. She occasionally uses Photohop. She expressed a desire to stream things like movies or webcam but not necessarily during intensive games.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years

When do you plan on building it?
Within 3 months

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
N/A (no)

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online in Canada

Atm, the most graphic intensive games/things she will use it for is LoL, Photoshop, L4D2, TF2. As long as she is able to play future games at decent settings, that will be enough. Thanks!
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 01:24:03
July 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#23087
I am running a 680 on a AX750W.

Cheeck the official amd site, they say that the requirement is a 500w+ psu. So that means a 500w psu will work.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#3

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232-18.html
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 01 2012 01:23 GMT
#23088
On July 01 2012 10:17 InseKtSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:16 MisterFred wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:15 InseKtSC2 wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:13 MisterFred wrote:
It's pointlessly large. Your setup won't use more than 400w if you don't overclock it. Overclocking won't use more than 500w, off the top of my head.


i need at least 850 because of the video card


No, you don't. The ibuypower website is lying.


Uhh idk man.. no offense but i kinda trust that over one person lol


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/508

Pulling less than 400w from the wall, which doesn't count PSU efficiency into things, under a very heavy gaming load.

And THAT website doesn't want your money...
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 01:30:18
July 01 2012 01:26 GMT
#23089
On July 01 2012 10:17 InseKtSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:16 MisterFred wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:15 InseKtSC2 wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:13 MisterFred wrote:
It's pointlessly large. Your setup won't use more than 400w if you don't overclock it. Overclocking won't use more than 500w, off the top of my head.


i need at least 850 because of the video card


No, you don't. The ibuypower website is lying.


Uhh idk man.. no offense but i kinda trust that over one person lol



Understandable, but wrong. They're just trying to sell you over-watted crap supplies that can't actually deliver their advertised wattage. Here, from a review site:

A review of the 7970. Total measured system power consumption while gaming with a 7970, 391 watts.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/27

Anyway, I've given you pretty much all the advice I can if you're set on buying from ibuypower. There's only so much not-bad one can manage.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 01:28:50
July 01 2012 01:28 GMT
#23090
On July 01 2012 10:16 InseKtSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:15 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote:
Even the 1000w psu is wayyyy overkill, go with maybe a 600w 750w.


site says i need at least 850 bc of video card


i can run 3 video cards with a 850w psu.

oh and fuck ibuypower.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Snackysnacks
Profile Joined December 2010
United States411 Posts
July 01 2012 01:53 GMT
#23091
On July 01 2012 10:17 InseKtSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:16 MisterFred wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:15 InseKtSC2 wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:13 MisterFred wrote:
It's pointlessly large. Your setup won't use more than 400w if you don't overclock it. Overclocking won't use more than 500w, off the top of my head.


i need at least 850 because of the video card


No, you don't. The ibuypower website is lying.


Uhh idk man.. no offense but i kinda trust that over one person lol

Remember, your money either goes to ibuypower or not. NOT THE POSTER. Of course they will try to stretch the truth to you.
Hell, there was a time i was in frys electronics to buy a desktop case on sale and i had salesmen trying to sell me every type of part, i happened to throw out the word its for a budget diablo 3 build and they reccomended an AMD FX-6100, i laughed.
Go dive deep in this thread, you will find every recommended computer purchase list rarely go past 500w, Including the OP, And even outsourced TECH sites that wont benefit from your money.

Eh, if you like throwing away money. I guess so be it..
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
July 01 2012 02:29 GMT
#23092
Let him waste money. If he trusts a for-profit company running a website over a 1155 page thread then he deserves to.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
JimmyRustles
Profile Joined June 2012
United States7 Posts
July 01 2012 03:33 GMT
#23093
Hey guys, looking to build a computer for the first time. I've been doing a good amount of research, and I've put together an initial build based on one I found on Anandtech. Again, this is my first time building a computer, and I want to make sure I do it right. I would really appreciate any comments/opinions about my build, and especially any suggestions for better/cheaper parts.

Budget
My budget is $800, and the build I've currently put together sits at around $790.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080.

What are you using it for?
Gaming, possibly streaming in 720p if it fits the budget. My main goal is to be able to play Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2 at high if not max settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Next week or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Microcenter, Newegg, and Fry's.

So this is the build I've put together, and would really appreciate any help revising or appending it. Thanks!
+ Show Spoiler +

CPU
Core i5 3450 3.1GHz LGA 1155 Processor: $149.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0388579

Mobo
Biostar TZ77A LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard: $94.99 from Microcenter, ($85 AMIR)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0387326

RAM
Kingston HyperX blu 4GB DDR3-1333: $29.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0360523

GPU
EVGA 01G-P3-1361-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB: $139.99 from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130749

PSU
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W: $59.99 from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower: $54.99 from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5": $99.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352167

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM (PC): $99.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361170

And a cheapo optical drive from Newegg: $18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276



So please let me know what you guys think of the build. My main concerns are whether or not the parts are actually all compatible with each other, but from what I've researched they should be... also wondering which graphics card to go for between the HD6850 and the GTX 460, and whether or not a 500 watt PSU would be enough to power it all. And I don't know if it matters, but I'm using an ASUS VH242 Monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052). Again, any help is appreciated, and thanks for reading!
Xeqt
Profile Joined April 2012
7 Posts
July 01 2012 03:53 GMT
#23094
Hello

I am working on my first build and wanted to double check to make sure I was getting a good computer. My budget for this build is around $1300-1450 including tax and shipping. I will primarily be using this computer mostly for media, web development, and occasionally gaming (ie. starcraft med to high settings). I don't plan on OC my CPU right away
The components that I have chosen:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965....................$105
Mobo: Asus Sabertooth 990FX..................$132 (open box)
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti..............$130
RAM: Gskill Ripjaws (2x 4GB 1600)...........$47
Case: Antec 900......................................$100
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1TB...........$100
SDD: OCZ Agility 3..................................$55
DVD: Asus DVD Burner............................$17
PSU: FSP Group AURUM GOLD 500W.... $90
Monitor: Asus VH236H.............................$145 (2)

Total: $ 1250+tax

Please let me know what changes I should make before actually ordering the parts.

Thanks for the feedback!
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
July 01 2012 03:59 GMT
#23095
On July 01 2012 12:33 JimmyRustles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hey guys, looking to build a computer for the first time. I've been doing a good amount of research, and I've put together an initial build based on one I found on Anandtech. Again, this is my first time building a computer, and I want to make sure I do it right. I would really appreciate any comments/opinions about my build, and especially any suggestions for better/cheaper parts.

Budget
My budget is $800, and the build I've currently put together sits at around $790.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080.

What are you using it for?
Gaming, possibly streaming in 720p if it fits the budget. My main goal is to be able to play Starcraft 2 and Team Fortress 2 at high if not max settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Next week or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Microcenter, Newegg, and Fry's.

So this is the build I've put together, and would really appreciate any help revising or appending it. Thanks!
+ Show Spoiler +

CPU
Core i5 3450 3.1GHz LGA 1155 Processor: $149.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0388579

Mobo
Biostar TZ77A LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard: $94.99 from Microcenter, ($85 AMIR)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0387326

RAM
Kingston HyperX blu 4GB DDR3-1333: $29.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0360523

GPU
EVGA 01G-P3-1361-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB: $139.99 from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130749

PSU
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W: $59.99 from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower: $54.99 from Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5": $99.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0352167

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM (PC): $99.99 from Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361170

And a cheapo optical drive from Newegg: $18.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276



So please let me know what you guys think of the build. My main concerns are whether or not the parts are actually all compatible with each other, but from what I've researched they should be... also wondering which graphics card to go for between the HD6850 and the GTX 460, and whether or not a 500 watt PSU would be enough to power it all. And I don't know if it matters, but I'm using an ASUS VH242 Monitor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052). Again, any help is appreciated, and thanks for reading!


Everything is good except: RAM is 1.65v, PSU has too much watts(aka u can get a cx430 and be fine), Don't need Z77 mobo, Case is old. Get these instead:

ASRock H77M mATX $74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

G.skill 4GB DDR3-1333 $23.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396

Cooler Master HAF 912 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Corsair CX430 $24.99AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 04:05:41
July 01 2012 04:03 GMT
#23096
On July 01 2012 12:53 Xeqt wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hello

I am working on my first build and wanted to double check to make sure I was getting a good computer. My budget for this build is around $1300-1450 including tax and shipping. I will primarily be using this computer mostly for media, web development, and occasionally gaming (ie. starcraft med to high settings). I don't plan on OC my CPU right away
The components that I have chosen:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965....................$105
Mobo: Asus Sabertooth 990FX..................$132 (open box)
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti..............$130
RAM: Gskill Ripjaws (2x 4GB 1600)...........$47
Case: Antec 900......................................$100
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1TB...........$100
SDD: OCZ Agility 3..................................$55
DVD: Asus DVD Burner............................$17
PSU: FSP Group AURUM GOLD 500W.... $90
Monitor: Asus VH236H.............................$145 (2)

Total: $ 1250+tax

Please let me know what changes I should make before actually ordering the parts.

Thanks for the feedback!

Get an H77+i5-3450/70(non oc) and a HD6850
Or get a Z77+i5-3570k+Cooler master hyper212+ if you want oc

EDIT: where you buying from?
EDIT2: yay used 700th post on this lol.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 01 2012 04:45 GMT
#23097
On July 01 2012 10:19 beefhamburger wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hey, I'm trying to help my gf pick out a new laptop to buy. Even though the format didn't fit perfectly, I tried to answer the questions as best as I could. Keep in mind, she lives in Canada so she would be buying from a Canadian retailer.

What is your budget?
$1000 ish

What is your resolution?
probably 1366x768 (trying to keep a budget), any screen size she says is ok, from 14-17 inches

What are you using it for?
Some gaming but mostly web surfing and entertainment like movies. She occasionally uses Photohop. She expressed a desire to stream things like movies or webcam but not necessarily during intensive games.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years

When do you plan on building it?
Within 3 months

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
N/A (no)

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online in Canada

Atm, the most graphic intensive games/things she will use it for is LoL, Photoshop, L4D2, TF2. As long as she is able to play future games at decent settings, that will be enough. Thanks!



I was going to recommend one of the new AMD trinity laptops (they also come in slim versions, like the HP Sleekbooks), with an SSD added in by yourself. But I don't know if they're available in Canada.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
July 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#23098
How are MSI laptops in terms of quality? Any complaints or issues? I was specifically looking at http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152349
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
July 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#23099
On July 01 2012 10:17 InseKtSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:16 MisterFred wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:15 InseKtSC2 wrote:
On July 01 2012 10:13 MisterFred wrote:
It's pointlessly large. Your setup won't use more than 400w if you don't overclock it. Overclocking won't use more than 500w, off the top of my head.


i need at least 850 because of the video card


No, you don't. The ibuypower website is lying.


Uhh idk man.. no offense but i kinda trust that over one person lol


Oh okay well then perhaps you might trust TWO opinions?

I have not 1, but TWO 7970s. They are BOTH overclocked (so they use more power) to 1100, and on my i5-2500k system (also overclocekd to 4.2 Ghz) the sum of all my parts put together only gets to 684 watts. And that's with me using my entire system at 100%.

CPU @ 100% doing folding
both GPUs @ 100% doing bitcoin mining.

As long as your PSU can actually deliver the advertised wattage (I have a Seasonic X 750), there is no reason you should need that large of a PSU.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 01 2012 19:20 GMT
#23100
I'm planning on doing a quad SLI gtx590 on my lepa g700-ma, and i should be fine unless i oc like hell
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