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The fastest & most reputable SSDs are from the brands:
Intel 520
Samsung 830
Corsair Performance Pro
Plextor m3
Crucial m4
You should get a single 256GB SSD instead of 2 128GB SSDs because larger SSDs are faster. Crucial has cut prices, they're currently the cheapest of the above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443
Crucial doesn't support e-sports that I know of. Corsair is a supporter of oGs and probably some others, but is $60 more:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65261&vpn=CSSD-P256GBP-BK&manufacture=Corsair
And of course everything SkyR said is dead on. The Intel he recommends is another $30 or so above the corsair.
As far as heatsinks go, Noctua and Thermalright are considered the two best companies, but neither are supporters of e-sports that I know of. Coolermaster supports e-sports. Their 212+ is a good performer but kind of cheap compared to the rest of your budget, heh. In terms of air coolers Corsair has the A70, but I have no idea how good that is. Thermaltake supports e-sports heavily, and offers the Frio and the Jing. Both are ok heatsinks, but the while the Frio cools well, it is loud & a step below the other top coolers. The Jing is supposed to be quite quiet, but if you're looking for a high overclock, not as good a performer as other coolers in its price range.
Edit: As Myrmidon said, an i7-3930k might be worth it for you if the CAD stuff you do is pretty heavy-duty, and the extra cores will actually do something for your money. For just gaming, stick with the 1155 platform.
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Alright thanks for the answers guys.
What do you think about this? I know that Noctua Headsink are usually big, will it fit into that case or should I get another one?
http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/7vNN
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600T will have no problem fitting the Noctua NH-D14.
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Who cares who supports eSports. If Acer put a billion dollars into eSports, I still wouldn't support them because they release shitty products. I can't think of a single good thing released by Thermaltake and Coolermaster isn't largely better outside of cheap cases.
Sponsorships are just ways for guys like Benq to sell shitty RTS special 60hz TN monitors for $300.
Really the only good major sponsors of eSports are Intel, Eizo, and Corsair. Intel is Intel, Corsair makes fairly high quality everything, and Eizo is strangely honest about monitor specs and has never released an awful monitor before.
On April 30 2012 11:54 MisterFred wrote:Well... both Nvidia and AMD sponsor e-sports (Dreamhack/Alternate & Asus ROG) so we also recommond e-sports sponsored video cards  . And Bit Fenix makes some budget cases... I consider sponsorships a tie-breaker myself. But it has to be a genuine tie.
In the case of nVidia and AMD, you pick whatever has the best price/performance regardless of sponsorships. In the case of AMD, I'd prefer that they take their eSports cash and put it into fixing their drivers. I'd respect them a little bit more. Bit Fenix makes some half decent budget cases but I wouldn't look at them if I wanted anything in the $80+ range.
But really, 95% of these tossers that have jumped on the ESPORTS bandwagon are simply trying to milk the market while it lasts. The only good thing to come about this ESPORTS wave is that Eizo sells the badass Foris FS2332 for like $200 less than the MSRP on the Fnatic website.
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True Womwom :D
Alright thanks guys, only need to buy the parts now!
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Well... both Nvidia and AMD sponsor e-sports (Dreamhack/Alternate & Asus ROG) so we also recommond e-sports sponsored video cards . And Bit Fenix makes some budget cases...
I consider sponsorships a tie-breaker myself. But it has to be a genuine tie.
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All parts ordered except the GTX680, since it's sold out everywhere.
Thanks for the help!
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On April 30 2012 05:31 Shauni wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, you seem to kinda know what components you want, but here's a recommendation, I haven't matched prices vs alternate fyi (but some quick searches confirmed that they were more expensive than the other two).
hardwareversand:
FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse DEFINE R3 Titanium Grey 92,71 €
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's 65,76 €
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155 189,79 €
ASRock P67 Pro3 SE (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX 70,37 €
8GB-Kit Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10667U CL9 38,06 €
Alpenföhn K2 - 120/140mm 63,99 €
Crucial M4 128GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5") 131,24 €
HIS HD 7950 GDDR5 3072MB DVI/HDMI/2xMiniDP 337,23 € (It's a relatively quiet card, but if you feel like it, add Accelero Xtreme 7970 OR Alpenföhn Peter 79xx edition + 2 fans to get it real silent)
be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER BQT E9-450W 80+Gold 65,91 €
Sum:
1.055,06 €
mindfactory.de:
Fractal Define R3 USB3.0 Black Pearl Midi € 84,68*
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 € 71,75*
Intel Core i5 2500K 4x 3.30GHz So.1155 BOX € 177,20*
ASRock P67 Pro SE Intel P67 So.1155 Dual € 67,54*
8GB Kingston ValueRAM DDR3-1333 DIMM CL9 € 50,39*
EKL Alpenföhn K2 - 120/140mm, für Sockel € 59,83*
128GB Crucial m4 SSD CT128M4SSD2 € 94,90*
3072MB HIS Radeon HD 7950 Aktiv PCIe 3.0 € 328,20*
450W be quiet! Straight Power E9 80+ € 63,70*
Zwischensumme: € 997,74
So a bit better prices overall there. The site says inkl. 19% UST: € 159.30. Does that mean it's already included or what?
Thanks a lot. "inkl. 19% UST" means that (german) taxes are already included in the price.
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I wouldnt get the asrock p67 pro3 SE if you want to do some overclocking. Get the normal p67 pro3, its far superior for overclocking. De SE wont go over the 4 ghz without throtteling back under load, and it allso lacks some bios options.
I'd allso get the Superflower golden green 400W/450W over the be quiet.
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On April 30 2012 17:57 Madoga wrote:
I wouldnt get the asrock p67 pro3 SE if you want to do some overclocking. Get the normal p67 pro3, its far superior for overclocking. De SE wont go over the 4 ghz without throtteling back under load, and it allso lacks some bios options.
I'd allso get the Superflower golden green 400W/450W over the be quiet.
Thanks for clarifying about SE vs normal pro3. I couldn't find any real discussion info on it even after googling a while, the specifications only lists some "minor" changes like other NIC, and it is only sold in a few places for some reason. My bad, get the P67 Pro3 NON SE like he says.
The bequiet 450w will be a bit more silent than the golden green 450w, especially under full load. The superflower has slightly better internals, but overall they are interchangeable. I was actually planning on using the golden green first, but there's a reason why aurum platform + bequiets cooling solution is popular in Germany. It was also a bit cheaper than the Super Flower PSU when i checked.
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The SF is pretty much unhearable(a constant 700rpm at any load). Its true that the be quiet is more unhearable, but I doubt you'll notice the difference.
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My lepa personally is so quiet i can't hear it in a silent room, love it.
Now need a cpu heatsink that doesn't make any noise either... :p
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Hi ppl, I need help to build a computer for playing and streaming, I hope this is the right thread.
I've never built a computer before, I have no clue of all of this, I'm thankful for every advice.
Budget: 700$ (500-600€)
Resolution : 1680x1050
The site I will buy from: http://geizhals.de/?m=1 (It's in german but i guess your browsers are able to translate)
I already have a AMD Radeon HD 6800 graphics card, so theres no need for a new one.
My upgrade cycle is about every 3-4 years and I'm planning to build it in the next week.
I hope this is enough information since I don't know what the rest of the questions from OP mean :D
The focus is to stream properly while still beeing able to play (My Sc2 profile http://eu.battle.net/sc2/de/profile/303936/1/Hazed/ladder/86004#current-rank)
Thanks to everyone helping.
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You would be looking for something like i5 2400, the cheapest h61 motherboard with the features you are looking for, maybe even ASRock H61M-HVS or something..
8gb of 1333-1600mhz ram(1600 if price difference is less than like 6 euros), cheapest DVD RW drive, cheapest 7200 RPM 500GB hard drive, and for power supply maybe something like Corsair CX2 430 and for the case I would go with something like BitFenix Merc Beta, I wouldn't overkill in those for a computer like that if you aren't even overclocking.
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The question is resolution. The various monitor connection standards can't handle the information flow necessary to power a 2560x1440 monitor running in 3D (3D requires twice the FPS), so they don't make any 120hz (3D capable) monitors at that resolution. All the 27" monitors that can run 3D have a measly 1920x1080 resolution.
While the standard resolution for smaller monitor sizes, the lower pixel density of 1920x1080 at 27" monitor sizes doesn't look as good to most people as 2560x1440. This is also one of the main reasons 1920x1080 HD TVs of whatever large size generally aren't recommended for computer use.
The monitor thread here on TL might have more info and most of my knowledge is second hand. But I think the usual answer will be to get a 24" 1920x1080 monitor if you're considering a 120hz (3D capable) display, or a 2560x1440 monitor if you want the size of a 27" screen.
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Alright thanks for this. I posted in the monitor thread, might have to stick with 24in then!
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Don't see -$50 but if it's at $200 without MIR than yes it is hot.
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