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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
April 30 2012 21:55 GMT
#21301
Regardless if you have a Phenom II X4 965e or a Core i5 2500k, upgrading your motherboard without a new processor is a waste of money. Since you bought the motherboard along with the processor in the first place, you should have bought the motherboard that you needed / wanted in the first place.

There are many sources of noise: power supply, HDDs, GPU heatsink, CPU heatsink, case fans, coil whine... It also doesn't help if you have a case that's full of mesh or is made of thin material.
Gaageli
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 23:01:48
April 30 2012 22:09 GMT
#21302
i need a whole build from start to finnish, i have nothing atm and im clueless about whats good and cheap at the same time i need computer for gaming and my budjet is like 500-800. i could buy it from www.hardwareversand.de but the parts are mysterty for me, i dont think i need anything overclocking, good that i saw this post here hopefully i can get myself some help from this
Dont touch that pylon! Its my pylon!
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
April 30 2012 22:11 GMT
#21303
The main case of noise is either your GPU (check fan speed and temperatures), CPU heatsink (check temps and fan speed for that aswell.

PSU fans aren't noisy as far as I've seen
Another_Terran
Profile Joined January 2011
United States55 Posts
April 30 2012 22:20 GMT
#21304
On May 01 2012 06:28 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 06:16 Another_Terran wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I need a new computer...and as i'm lazy/don't know anything about computers I was most likely going to get the computer from Best Buy or something. I just need a good gaming computer, as i play anything from SC2/Diablo/Shooters/MMORPGS...( Also i'd like to be able to stream SC2 again, but at a much better quality).

Has anyone recently bought one from Best Buy, or have any suggestions? Any help is appreciated!


Best Buy sucks balls for selection of desktop computers (Last time I went there, there was only 3 different desktop computer options). Building one yourself will save you ALOT of money and you will have MUCH BETTER performance. IF you like WASTING money then buy one from IBUYPOWER. This is the least shittiest one I can find for $1070

HOWEVER IF YOU PRICE OUT EACH COMPONENT(estimations):
I5-2400 ~180
560Ti ~220
Win7 ~100
mobo ~70
Ram ~50
HDD ~100
PSU ~50
Case ~50
mouse+keyboard ~20
optical drive ~20

adds up to ~860
Which means they make ATLEAST $210 Profit
AND the computer sucks. As in, Its horrible.



Thanks for responding...I'm lazy and like wasting money... Should i get the computer you linked? It seems like no one has bought it in like the last 4 months
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
April 30 2012 22:22 GMT
#21305
On May 01 2012 07:11 Nabutso wrote:
The main case of noise is either your GPU (check fan speed and temperatures), CPU heatsink (check temps and fan speed for that aswell.

PSU fans aren't noisy as far as I've seen


Data from PCwizard:
SYSTIN 28 degrees C
CPUTIN 42.5 C
AUXTIN 36.5 C
CPUFANINO 3375 rpm

Processsser AMD Phenom II x4
Core 1 40 C
Core 2 40 C
Core 3 39.9 C
Core 4 39.8 C
Energy power 16.00 W

ATI Radeon HD 5700 series
Temp 49 C
Fan 35 %

Hard Disk Monitoring S.M.A.R.T
Hard Disk Samsung HD103SJ 31 C


I see that my GPU is the hottest, but it's fan isn't really noisy. I can turn it up, but the louder noise is still coming from elsewhere. Where the Radeon fan has a soft sound the loud noise is more high-pitched.

I'm guessin the CPU fan with its 3375 rpm is the culprit?
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
April 30 2012 22:33 GMT
#21306
Yeah, the CPU fan is the most likely culprit. That fan on the stock AMD heatsink goes up to 6000RPM and is pretty notorious for sounding like a leaf-blower / vaccuum cleaner.

Your best bet is to open the case side panel with the PC on and try to pinpoint it for sure. If necessary, run some CPU stress test like Prime 95 for like 10 seconds, it should ramp up the CPU fan to max immediately and you'll be able to tell by the noise characteristics.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 01 2012 02:00 GMT
#21307
im assuming youre using the stock cooler for phenom 2, if so that will be the noisiest part in your computer, depending on what your psu is...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
kwah
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada16 Posts
May 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#21308
On May 01 2012 11:00 Shauni wrote:
im assuming youre using the stock cooler for phenom 2, if so that will be the noisiest part in your computer, depending on what your psu is...


Stock cooler on the Phenom II is loud as fuck. Love that CPU, but good god is it ever noisy.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 01 2012 02:48 GMT
#21309
On May 01 2012 11:47 kwah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:00 Shauni wrote:
im assuming youre using the stock cooler for phenom 2, if so that will be the noisiest part in your computer, depending on what your psu is...


Stock cooler on the Phenom II is loud as fuck. Love that CPU, but good god is it ever noisy.


2nd that. god is that thing loud and temps are bad aswell
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 01 2012 03:24 GMT
#21310
Is $449.99 an okay price for an HD 7970? I am thinking about going with that card instead of the 7870.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 01 2012 03:25 GMT
#21311
It's $30 below MSRP so yes?
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 01 2012 03:28 GMT
#21312
On May 01 2012 12:25 skyR wrote:
It's $30 below MSRP so yes?

I just wanted to make sure there weren't any issues with the model # or anything before I went ahead with it. Thank you skyR you should get paid for this.
Teence
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada157 Posts
May 01 2012 04:39 GMT
#21313
Hey guys, my girlfriend is in the market for a new gaming desktop just in time for Diablo III, and where else to ask other than TL?

What is your budget?

Up to $1000, including an OS and monitor, but the lower the better of course.

What is your resolution?

Likely either 1680x1050 or 1920x1080, depending on the monitor.

What are you using it for?

Pretty much just gaming. For the foreseeable future, that will include Diablo III and Guild Wars 2.

What is your upgrade cycle?

At least 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next week or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not necessary.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes. Currently her campus computer store is offering Windows 7 Professional for $125, but I figure Home Edition for cheaper is probably better.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Not necessary

Where are you buying your parts from?

We are located in Canada, so likely either from Newegg or NCIX.

Thanks in advance guys, I really appreciate it!
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 05:43:57
May 01 2012 05:37 GMT
#21314
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 01 2012 13:39 Teence wrote:
Hey guys, my girlfriend is in the market for a new gaming desktop just in time for Diablo III, and where else to ask other than TL?

What is your budget?

Up to $1000, including an OS and monitor, but the lower the better of course.

What is your resolution?

Likely either 1680x1050 or 1920x1080, depending on the monitor.

What are you using it for?

Pretty much just gaming. For the foreseeable future, that will include Diablo III and Guild Wars 2.

What is your upgrade cycle?

At least 3 years.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next week or two.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Not necessary.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes. Currently her campus computer store is offering Windows 7 Professional for $125, but I figure Home Edition for cheaper is probably better.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Not necessary

Where are you buying your parts from?

We are located in Canada, so likely either from Newegg or NCIX.

Thanks in advance guys, I really appreciate it!


CPU: i5-3450 $199 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70543&vpn=BX80637I53450&manufacture=Intel
Mobo: MSI H77A-G43 $95 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69922&vpn=H77MA-G43&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1360
Ram: Mushkin 2x4GB $41 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1058
GPU: Powercolor HD6850 $150 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56241&vpn=AX6850 1GBD5-PEDH&manufacture=PowerColor
PSU: Corsair CX430v2 $50 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&vpn=CMPSU-430CXV2&manufacture=Corsair
Optical drive: ASUS and its black $17 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69648&vpn=DVD-E818A7T/BLK/B/GEN&manufacture=Others
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM $100 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western Digital WD
Case: Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower: $60 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&vpn=RC-912-KKN1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER
OS:Win7 ~80? if you can get it from campus store, if not $100 from ncix/newegg.

That totals ~800CAD for the tower.

I would suggest a Dell Ultrasharp 21.5" for your monitor 1920x1080 $259 http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors_Flat_Panel_Widescreen/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-2736&~ck=baynoteSearch&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0

Any monitor cheaper and it doesn't matter as long as you like it.


That would bring the total to 1060CAD. Hm...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
May 01 2012 05:57 GMT
#21315
Might need to downgrade sicne you'd be paying tax... I'm guessing his budget is meant to include for that, and any recycling fees Canada might have.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 06:39:39
May 01 2012 06:35 GMT
#21316
$260 for a 21" Dell Ultrasharp is way overpriced - there are much cheaper alternative Asus IPS models which are still quite good yet are missing the stand. What you get from Dell's eIPS monitors is some pretty quick shipping, good warranty, and a badass stand.

Most educational institutions should have an employee program with Dell that you can take advantage of. I know for a fact that my association with University of Melbourne and RACV means I can get 10-15% off basically everything on Dell's website.

I cannot believe Dell is only nice to Australians so I'd definitely try getting a coupon code from somewhere.
GosuSwarm
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom24 Posts
May 01 2012 08:54 GMT
#21317
what kind of wattage power supply do I need to run an intel i5 2500k, perhaps going to overclock it, with 8 gigs of ram and an hd 7850 graphics card? My case also had LED's in it

Case
Stephano Fighting <3
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
May 01 2012 09:52 GMT
#21318
any quality unit, hd7850 almost consumes basicly nothing...

low price units would be Corsair cx 430v2, Antec HCG400, Antec EarthWatts EA-380D...

after you can go one step up to OCZ ZS series, Bequiet!, Super-Flower, ...
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
SFGIANTS91
Profile Joined October 2011
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 11:06:56
May 01 2012 11:03 GMT
#21319
Hey guys my name is madison and IM so excited to build my First computer! i was looking at the DIY builds that they have on newegg and being rather noobish when it comes to building computeres, i would like to run my budget and such through Here! IM gonna Answer the questions below and hopefully someone can give me some idea on What i should be getting. thanks so much in advance! <3<3<3.

My Budget - I am aiming for somewhere between 600-800, although if there is truly something that would make a huge difference, i am sure i could wait a while longer to Complete the build.

Resolution- To be Honest IM not exactly sure, IM not going to Bull sh!t and say i know What resolution i will be gaming at because at this time i dont have a monitor (IM on a lap top currently) but from the research that i have done 1280x1024 seems to be a good standard resolution to be using for gaming (mainly SC2). and if this is incorrect and i Sound like an idiot, please feel free to correct me.

What I am using it for - gaming, primarily SC2, and general youtube, internet, etc.

Upgrade Cycle- To be Honest i would say a longer upgrade cycle, but if i find the Money i of course would be willing to add some performance to my computer.

When i plan on building - I have the Money now, but am very patient so if i need to wait for a certain sale or season when somethings price may dip significantly, i can wait.

Overclocking- To be Honest i just need a great gaming computer for SC2, and if this is something that i should consider i can, but i am again not computer build Proficient so if it is not neccesary then i wont do it.

OS-I do not have an OS but am most certain id be using windows 7 home, so no need to Point me in any direction there unless i am making a Bad choice.

Second GPU- doubt it.

parts- New egg is my source for learning and looking for parts, although there is closeby frys so if their deals are better or can be better i would Love to know.

In addition, a good monitor for reasonably cheap would be a great addition.

omg long post, but i appreciate anyone with information to heLp me.

-madison.
DUDE! Where's my mothership???
FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 12:40:50
May 01 2012 12:40 GMT
#21320
Hello TL I'm back and with more questions per usual. I have decided a while ago that I wanted to upgrade my computer so I could stream so my question is this.

With a
i2500k CPU
275GTX GPU
MSI Z77A-G45 MOBO
750TX PSU
8GB Ripjaws 1600 Cas 8
1680x1050 Resolution
Could I stream Diablo 3 and Dota 2 at 720p on twitch.tv?

Also looking for a webcam as well not sure whats good though. I have this in mind. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104368

Thanks in advance!
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