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On May 01 2012 07:33 Wabbit wrote:
Yeah, the CPU fan is the most likely culprit. That fan on the stock AMD heatsink goes up to 6000RPM and is pretty notorious for sounding like a leaf-blower / vaccuum cleaner.
Your best bet is to open the case side panel with the PC on and try to pinpoint it for sure. If necessary, run some CPU stress test like Prime 95 for like 10 seconds, it should ramp up the CPU fan to max immediately and you'll be able to tell by the noise characteristics.
On May 01 2012 11:47 kwah wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 11:00 Shauni wrote:
im assuming youre using the stock cooler for phenom 2, if so that will be the noisiest part in your computer, depending on what your psu is... Stock cooler on the Phenom II is loud as fuck. Love that CPU, but good god is it ever noisy.
So I've opened the case and there is no doubt it is the Phenom X2 cooler that is making the noise. Next question is if you can recommend a fix? I get rid of the stock cooler and get what instead?
My case is an Antec Sonata, dimensions 42.5 cm x 47 cm x 20 cm.
Priority is making it silent and stable. I haven't done watercooling or such before and hope for an easier solution.
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As my uninformed posts surely betray, I don't do overclocking or other tweaks. Thanks for the suggestion, I will order it if I don't get other recommendations to consider.
And happy birthday!
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I need help with a build for a friend, who currently does not have reliable access to a computer.
What is your budget?
$1500 including taxes. (Maybe $1300?)
What is your resolution?
1920x1080, but the monitor will need to be purchased.
What are you using it for?
He'll be using it for streaming (console, computer), gaming, some coding.
Games what will be played include: StarCraft 2, Diablo 3, Witcher 2, Borderlands 2
What is your upgrade cycle?
2 years Graphics Card, 3 Years CPU
When do you plan on building it?
He plans on ordering the parts either later today or tomorrow
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Canada
I appreciate the help!
EDIT: Thanks a lot, skyR!
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On May 01 2012 22:39 hefty wrote:As my uninformed posts surely betray, I don't do overclocking or other tweaks. Thanks for the suggestion, I will order it if I don't get other recommendations to consider. And happy birthday!
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49255&agid=669
Depending on your budget of course but this will run even more quiet and cool. The fan in rev 13 should be practically silent at idle. Phenom 2 actually requires a decent heatsink to run quiet, since the high tdp and low max temperature...
Alpine 64 would be better than what you have now, but the change will only make it run at 2000 rpm instead of 6000 rpm during load. At stock clock, a freezer 13 on the other hand should barely have to power up beyond its lower limit on a 92mm fan, which will be way more silent and last longer.
HERE ARE SOME GRAPHS!
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Considering that it's one of the cheapest coolers on those lists (if not the cheapest?), the value is great, especially if you will not be overclocking it like crazy.
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since we are talking about the phenomII stock cooler anyways right now i have a question also.
how do i remove the fan from the heatsink without braking anything? should i just apply some force and rip it off?
i ask cause i wanna clean it out as good as possible before i give the pc to my brother.
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On May 01 2012 23:11 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
since we are talking about the phenomII stock cooler anyways right now i have a question also.
how do i remove the fan from the heatsink without braking anything? should i just apply some force and rip it off?
i ask cause i wanna clean it out as good as possible before i give the pc to my brother.
There are 4 screws on it, pull those out first. Pretty self-explanatory actually.
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On May 01 2012 23:02 Shauni wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Depending on your budget of course but this will run even more quiet and cool. The fan in rev 13 should be practically silent at idle. Phenom 2 actually requires a decent heatsink to run quiet, since the high tdp and low max temperature... Alpine 64 would be better than what you have now, but the change will only make it run at 2000 rpm instead of 6000 rpm during load. At stock clock, a freezer 13 on the other hand should barely have to power up beyond its lower limit on a 92mm fan, which will be way more silent and last longer. HERE ARE SOME GRAPHS! + Show Spoiler +
That all sounds great, I'll probably go with this then as the extra bucks is no problem.
Can't see the graphs though, They don't show for me, but I don't really need to see them either.
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The hell, when did hard drives get so expensive? Price cycling is annoying
As for a real question, I'm helping my brother build a new comp, and as for GPU, I believe the thought is that 7850 > 560 ti 448 for power, noise, and if overclocked, but stock 560 ti 448 is better performance wise? I've been looking around amazon and newegg and prices seem comparable. Didn't want to dig more than 3 pages back so I apologize if someone else already said this
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Hey so I got my build all at my house but I forgot to get one thing and it a wireless adapter. I would like an extremely good USB/pci adapter for under 30 buck. Please reply soon I'm probably going to put fast shipping on that purchase. FYI wired wifi is not an optional for me only wireless adapter for me. Thanks
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On May 01 2012 23:21 hefty wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 23:02 Shauni wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Depending on your budget of course but this will run even more quiet and cool. The fan in rev 13 should be practically silent at idle. Phenom 2 actually requires a decent heatsink to run quiet, since the high tdp and low max temperature... Alpine 64 would be better than what you have now, but the change will only make it run at 2000 rpm instead of 6000 rpm during load. At stock clock, a freezer 13 on the other hand should barely have to power up beyond its lower limit on a 92mm fan, which will be way more silent and last longer. HERE ARE SOME GRAPHS! + Show Spoiler + That all sounds great, I'll probably go with this then as the extra bucks is no problem. Can't see the graphs though, They don't show for me, but I don't really need to see them either.
sorry, fixed them, stupid tweaktown doesnt allow linking content...
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KOFgokuon, anandtech has a good comparison tool, although they don't have the 560ti 448, so I compared the 7850 to a 570 for you. I THINK that the performance of a 7850 and 560ti 448 should be almost identical, since the 560ti 448 is a bit weaker than a 570. Also, as new drivers are released for the 7850 performance should improve a bit. When you factor in the better power and heat from the 7850, that seems like the logical choice.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=518
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On May 01 2012 13:39 Teence wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys, my girlfriend is in the market for a new gaming desktop just in time for Diablo III, and where else to ask other than TL?
What is your budget?
Up to $1000, including an OS and monitor, but the lower the better of course.
What is your resolution?
Likely either 1680x1050 or 1920x1080, depending on the monitor.
What are you using it for?
Pretty much just gaming. For the foreseeable future, that will include Diablo III and Guild Wars 2.
What is your upgrade cycle?
At least 3 years.
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next week or two.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Not necessary.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes. Currently her campus computer store is offering Windows 7 Professional for $125, but I figure Home Edition for cheaper is probably better.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not necessary
Where are you buying your parts from?
We are located in Canada, so likely either from Newegg or NCIX.
Thanks in advance guys, I really appreciate it!
Total comes to $743, wait for U2312HM to go on sale for sub $200 and that will bring you to a total under $950 before taxes, shipping, and other applicable fees.
Intel Core i5 2400 & Gigabyte H77M-D3H @ $260
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=71049&promoid=1058
EVGA GTX 560 @ $150
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=61198&promoid=1058
Bitfenix Shinobi @ $60
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60585&promoid=1058
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $70
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1058
Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1058
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1058
Antec Earthwatts 430 @ $50
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69575&promoid=1305
DVD Burner @ $18
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1058
On May 01 2012 22:56 Vearo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I need help with a build for a friend, who currently does not have reliable access to a computer.
What is your budget?
$1500 including taxes. (Maybe $1300?)
What is your resolution?
1920x1080, but the monitor will need to be purchased.
What are you using it for?
He'll be using it for streaming (console, computer), gaming, some coding.
Games what will be played include: StarCraft 2, Diablo 3, Witcher 2, Borderlands 2
What is your upgrade cycle?
2 years Graphics Card, 3 Years CPU
When do you plan on building it?
He plans on ordering the parts either later today or tomorrow
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Canada
I appreciate the help!
See above.
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On May 01 2012 20:03 SFGIANTS91 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys my name is madison and IM so excited to build my First computer! i was looking at the DIY builds that they have on newegg and being rather noobish when it comes to building computeres, i would like to run my budget and such through Here! IM gonna Answer the questions below and hopefully someone can give me some idea on What i should be getting. thanks so much in advance! <3<3<3.
My Budget - I am aiming for somewhere between 600-800, although if there is truly something that would make a huge difference, i am sure i could wait a while longer to Complete the build.
Resolution- To be Honest IM not exactly sure, IM not going to Bull sh!t and say i know What resolution i will be gaming at because at this time i dont have a monitor (IM on a lap top currently) but from the research that i have done 1280x1024 seems to be a good standard resolution to be using for gaming (mainly SC2). and if this is incorrect and i Sound like an idiot, please feel free to correct me.
What I am using it for - gaming, primarily SC2, and general youtube, internet, etc.
Upgrade Cycle- To be Honest i would say a longer upgrade cycle, but if i find the Money i of course would be willing to add some performance to my computer.
When i plan on building - I have the Money now, but am very patient so if i need to wait for a certain sale or season when somethings price may dip significantly, i can wait.
Overclocking- To be Honest i just need a great gaming computer for SC2, and if this is something that i should consider i can, but i am again not computer build Proficient so if it is not neccesary then i wont do it.
OS-I do not have an OS but am most certain id be using windows 7 home, so no need to Point me in any direction there unless i am making a Bad choice.
Second GPU- doubt it.
parts- New egg is my source for learning and looking for parts, although there is closeby frys so if their deals are better or can be better i would Love to know.
In addition, a good monitor for reasonably cheap would be a great addition.
omg long post, but i appreciate anyone with information to heLp me.
-madison.
Total is $612, this leaves you with roughly $200 for purchase of a monitor. Note that sales ends tomorrow.
The standard resolution is 1920x1080.
Intel Core i3 2100 @ $115
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58339&promoid=1058
Powercolor Radeon HD6850 @ $135
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&promoid=1058
AMD 2x4GB 1333MHz cas8 @ $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=67360&promoid=1058
Coolermaster HAF912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1058
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402&promoid=1058
Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $30
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1058
DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1058
Asrock H61M-VS @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1058
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On May 01 2012 14:37 iTzSnypah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 01 2012 13:39 Teence wrote:
Hey guys, my girlfriend is in the market for a new gaming desktop just in time for Diablo III, and where else to ask other than TL?
What is your budget?
Up to $1000, including an OS and monitor, but the lower the better of course.
What is your resolution?
Likely either 1680x1050 or 1920x1080, depending on the monitor.
What are you using it for?
Pretty much just gaming. For the foreseeable future, that will include Diablo III and Guild Wars 2.
What is your upgrade cycle?
At least 3 years.
When do you plan on building it?
Within the next week or two.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Not necessary.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes. Currently her campus computer store is offering Windows 7 Professional for $125, but I figure Home Edition for cheaper is probably better.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not necessary
Where are you buying your parts from?
We are located in Canada, so likely either from Newegg or NCIX.
Thanks in advance guys, I really appreciate it! CPU: i5-3450 $199 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70543&vpn=BX80637I53450&manufacture=IntelMobo: MSI H77A-G43 $95 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69922&vpn=H77MA-G43&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1360Ram: Mushkin 2x4GB $41 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1058GPU: Powercolor HD6850 $150 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56241&vpn=AX6850 1GBD5-PEDH&manufacture=PowerColorPSU: Corsair CX430v2 $50 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&vpn=CMPSU-430CXV2&manufacture=CorsairOptical drive: ASUS and its black $17 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69648&vpn=DVD-E818A7T/BLK/B/GEN&manufacture=OthersHDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200RPM $100 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881&vpn=WD10EALX&manufacture=Western Digital WDCase: Coolermaster Haf 912 Black Mid Tower: $60 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&vpn=RC-912-KKN1&manufacture=COOLERMASTEROS:Win7 ~80? if you can get it from campus store, if not $100 from ncix/newegg. That totals ~800CAD for the tower. I would suggest a Dell Ultrasharp 21.5" for your monitor 1920x1080 $259 http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors_Flat_Panel_Widescreen/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=320-2736&~ck=baynoteSearch&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0Any monitor cheaper and it doesn't matter as long as you like it.
That would bring the total to 1060CAD. Hm...
Thanks for the reply! With the monitor and shipping, your build would have gone a bit over budget, so I tweaked a few components. How does this look?
CPU: Intel Core i5 3450 Quad Core $199 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70543
Mobo: ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM H61 $70 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59829&promoid=1205
GPU: XFX Radeon HD 6850 $140, $125 after MIR http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63985&promoid=1058
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB $41 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1058
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2 430W $50 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB $80 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58402
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha $40 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1360
OS: Windows 7 64-bit at $95 on NCIX
What do you guys think? The total comes out to about $715, so with a decent monitor I think it'll be well under budget. The one component I wasn't too familiar with is the new Ivy Bridge 3450 CPU and whether or not it is compatible with the H61 mobo. I'm assuming it is because the CPU doesn't have the k suffix, but if it's not compatible hopefully someone can let me know.
Thanks again!
EDIT: Thanks for the response skyR, I'll look into that build as well. You really should get paid for this.
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Core i5 3450 is not supported by H61 without a BIOS update. H77 is required for 3rd Generation Core processors.
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Alright, that's what I was afraid of. What about the XFX Radeon 6850 at $125 vs. the GTX 560 at $150? Is the difference in performance worth the $25 price differential? Not that this would be a deal breaker, of course, I'm just curious.
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The GTX 560 I have listed is $140 after mail in rebate so it would be $125 vs $140. The GTX 560 performance is similar to that of a 6870, not a 6850. The sale ends tomorrow so you will not likely see the GTX 560 on sale again for $150, especially not an EVGA. $15 difference would be worth it imo.
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Great, just what I was looking for. Thanks!
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