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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 08 2010 22:44 GMT
#2001
On November 09 2010 04:03 fnaticAugury wrote:
Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5C 4GB XMS2 PC2-6400 800Mhz 240-pin Dual Channel DDR2 Desktop Memory

Gigabyte AMD AM3 6 Core MotherBoard GA-880GM-UD2H

Do these look okay, I already have the PSU I'm going to use, and a GTS 250.

Thanks :D


You need DDR3 RAM, not DDR2 RAM, with that mobo. Other than that it looks okay. What graphics card do you have? Or if you're not gaming, the integrated graphics on the 880G chipset mobo is fine. It would be pretty terrible for modern 3D games though.

On November 09 2010 07:18 1312020 wrote:
Quick question. The family computer in my house is pretty terrible, a Radeon X300 and an old dual core pentium-D. It plays Team Fortress 2 at about 20 fps, and I haven't bothered with SC2. Basically, would a Radeon 4550 provide a boost in playability up to say 30-40 fps on lowest settings? Because they're on sale for 12 dollars on Newegg and I would be willing to shell out if it will make it playable for my friends when they come over.


Yeah, that sounds about right for a Radeon HD 4550 I think.

On November 09 2010 07:20 Gandalf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 06:58 semantics wrote:
On November 09 2010 06:52 Gandalf wrote:
His PSU is Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 600W, you can see the specs here:

http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5906

His last GPU, which he used for over a year without issues, was a GTX285, if thats any help.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034/1


He's not going to be happy when he reads this, haha. In Pakistan there are only two mainstream PSU brands available, Cooler Master and Corsair, and the latter is fairly more expensive. However, if I'm not mistaken, the gtx285 is more power hungry than the 5870, so shouldnt the fact that his computer ran fine for over a year with no hanging/freezing/crashing etc indicate he'll probably be okay?

Otherwise I suppose he'll have to spring for a new PSU, in which case the 6870 might be a more attractive buy.


As bad as the PSU is, he's not using over 400W (probably not close to that unless overclocking) so it's probably okay. Some Cooler Master PSU models are quite decent though, like the Silent Pro and Silent Pro Gold.
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 23:02:24
November 08 2010 23:00 GMT
#2002
I have a GTS 250 right now, would these be a better deal?

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2 GHz 4x512 KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail HDZ955WFGBMBOX

Gigabyte Socket AM3/AMD 870/SATA3&USB3.0/A&GbE/ATX Motherboard GA-870A-UD3

CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB ( 2 X 2GB ) PC3-10666 1333MHz 240-pin DDR3 CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit - TW3X4G1333C9DHX

Thanks again

Trying to keep things under $400, but willing to go up a little bit. Looking for a HD/Processor/RAM/Case/MB

Edit: Mostly just looking to play Sc2 and D3 on the system. I also use PS/DW/VS/NB
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 00:08:37
November 08 2010 23:30 GMT
#2003
Yeah, that Phenom II X4 955 and Gigabyte 870 AM3 mobo looks fine. Cheapish RAM from a decent brand like this is fine unless you're heavily overclocking.

An issue is that a full-size ATX mobo doesn't fit in the original case you had. [edit: oops nevermind] A decent ATX case for $40 is the NZXT Gamma (or Beta). If you're willing to spend a little more, the Cooler Master HAF 912 is a nicer case with better cooling. Also if you might want more HDD space, this combo looks fine.
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
November 09 2010 00:03 GMT
#2004
Thanks, definitely going to go with the cheaper RAM. I'll probably get the NZXT Gamma case, unless you think it's worth it to invest in a better system, I don't really see myself overclocking or upgrading anytime soon.

Will the motherboard I picked not fit in the original case?

Thanks again, as always.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 09 2010 00:12 GMT
#2005
Oh crap sorry, I misread the description. "Cooler Master Elite 310 ATX, MATX Mid Tower Case" is indeed a normal ATX mobo-fitting case, so it'd be okay. The comma threw me off, so I thought it was a case that only fit mATX mobos. Anyway, I think the low-end NZXT products are better-regarded (better airflow, features, etc.) than the low-end CM stuff, but it's your call anyway.

With just those parts you'll be fine. If you were thinking about overclocking or maybe upgrades in the future, you might think about a better case or an extra 120mm fan or two, but it's not really an issue for what you're getting.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 09 2010 03:45 GMT
#2006
On October 31 2010 21:33 cbarge wrote:
I've been out of the PC building game for a while, so I'm hoping someone here can verify that I'm making some solid choices. My budget is as low as possible, I'm trying to get everything including a monitor for less than $650.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=14884512

Case
Rosewill FB-02 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147116

PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS - 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 425 2.7GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor ADX425WFK32GI - 60.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103725

Mobo
ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - 37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176R

RAM
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 - 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145278

GPU
GIGABYTE GV-R577UD-1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125309

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - 44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098

Optical
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - 19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Monitor
Acer G215HAbd Black 21.5" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - 149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009264

Subtotal - $608.91

Please pick it apart and let me know what I did wrong, but keep in mind my low budget. Thanks.


What a challenge
starleague forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 09 2010 05:01 GMT
#2007
On November 09 2010 12:45 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 21:33 cbarge wrote:
I've been out of the PC building game for a while, so I'm hoping someone here can verify that I'm making some solid choices. My budget is as low as possible, I'm trying to get everything including a monitor for less than $650.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=14884512

Case
Rosewill FB-02 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147116

PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS - 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 425 2.7GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor ADX425WFK32GI - 60.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103725

Mobo
ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - 37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176R

RAM
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 - 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145278

GPU
GIGABYTE GV-R577UD-1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125309

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - 44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098

Optical
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - 19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Monitor
Acer G215HAbd Black 21.5" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - 149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009264

Subtotal - $608.91

Please pick it apart and let me know what I did wrong, but keep in mind my low budget. Thanks.


What a challenge


challenge accepted

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=16051926

You need to add a case, and its about $50 more expensive than your original build, but you get
1) a GTX 460 which is significantly faster than a 5770
2) much higher quality motherboard and psu
3) faster HDD

Do note that you needed to add a CPU cooler to your original build, the processor you included does not come with one. Also, the Athlon X2 and X3 perform similarly in SC2.
starleague forever
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 09 2010 07:02 GMT
#2008
On November 09 2010 14:01 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2010 12:45 a176 wrote:
On October 31 2010 21:33 cbarge wrote:
I've been out of the PC building game for a while, so I'm hoping someone here can verify that I'm making some solid choices. My budget is as low as possible, I'm trying to get everything including a monitor for less than $650.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=14884512

Case
Rosewill FB-02 Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147116

PSU
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS - 59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

CPU
AMD Athlon II X3 425 2.7GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor ADX425WFK32GI - 60.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103725

Mobo
ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - 37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176R

RAM
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMV4GX3M2A1333C9 - 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145278

GPU
GIGABYTE GV-R577UD-1GD Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - 139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125309

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - 44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098

Optical
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - 19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Monitor
Acer G215HAbd Black 21.5" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor - 149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009264

Subtotal - $608.91

Please pick it apart and let me know what I did wrong, but keep in mind my low budget. Thanks.


What a challenge


challenge accepted

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=16051926

You need to add a case, and its about $50 more expensive than your original build, but you get
1) a GTX 460 which is significantly faster than a 5770
2) much higher quality motherboard and psu
3) faster HDD

Do note that you needed to add a CPU cooler to your original build, the processor you included does not come with one. Also, the Athlon X2 and X3 perform similarly in SC2.


For about the same price, he could go with a non-OEM Athlon iix3 and drop the aftermarket cooler.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
November 10 2010 18:31 GMT
#2009
http://www.geforce.com/#/Optimize/OPS/Starcraft2-OPS-GeForce-GTX-460

Nvidia made a cute little website pooling all you need to know about geforce products into one place, finding drivers and guides.
Xandos
Profile Joined August 2010
16 Posts
November 10 2010 21:33 GMT
#2010
I'm building a new PC for a 1200ish budget, this comes to 1192 ha... Gonna use it mainly for gaming. Any suggestions for improvements?

LIAN LI PC-8N Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112245

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

EVGA 01G-P3-1371-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) FPB EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130566

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211

SPARKLE COMPUTER CORP Gold Class GW-EPS1000DA 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.537806
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817800002

ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.537806

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102012





skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2010 21:42 GMT
#2011
@Xandos

I'd suggest either the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB or Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB for a boot drive. You could also go the SSD route.

The core i7 950 uses socket 1366. You selected a P55 motherboard which is socket 1156. You'd either have to pick a 1156 processor such as the core i5 750 / 760 (or the core i7 860 if you want hyperthreading) or pick a X58 motherboard for your core i7 950.

If you do go the 1366 route, you'd want a triple channel ram kit (3x1) to take advantage of the chipset.

You don't need a 1000W PSU unless you plan on doing triple SLI sometime in the future. A Corsair, Seasonic, or Antec PSU in the 500-700w range is fine for the build.

raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:02:11
November 10 2010 22:01 GMT
#2012
After trying to buy a desktop it seems to make more sense to build one. First time system builder...

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16078046

Look OK?

PS. Took alot of a179s suggestions, thanks mate.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 10 2010 22:03 GMT
#2013
On November 11 2010 07:01 raheelp wrote:
After trying to buy a desktop it seems to make more sense to build one. First time system builder...

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16078046

Look OK?

PS. Took alot of a179s suggestions, thanks mate.


You have to make your wishlist public in order for others to see it.
Xandos
Profile Joined August 2010
16 Posts
November 10 2010 22:06 GMT
#2014
K so going with

Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026

2x G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-3GBNQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231224

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:10:58
November 10 2010 22:09 GMT
#2015
On November 11 2010 07:03 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 07:01 raheelp wrote:
After trying to buy a desktop it seems to make more sense to build one. First time system builder...

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16078046

Look OK?

PS. Took alot of a179s suggestions, thanks mate.


You have to make your wishlist public in order for others to see it.


fail. thanks.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16078046
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 10 2010 22:17 GMT
#2016
Xandos: unless you're using multiple GPUs, overclocking a GTX 480 (uses a lot more power than a GTX 460), or something like that, you don't need over 500W. That Earthwatts 750W model is good, but this Seasonic S12II 520W Bronze is a higher-performing unit with a 5 year warranty, for only $60. In terms of efficiency it's better to use a PSU rated more closely to your actual max, typical, and idle power consumption figures. See this and this.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 22:47:22
November 10 2010 22:45 GMT
#2017
On November 11 2010 07:09 raheelp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 07:03 skyR wrote:
On November 11 2010 07:01 raheelp wrote:
After trying to buy a desktop it seems to make more sense to build one. First time system builder...

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16078046

Look OK?

PS. Took alot of a179s suggestions, thanks mate.


You have to make your wishlist public in order for others to see it.


fail. thanks.

https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.aspx?ID=16078046


It's still private. Public wish lists and private wish lists do not share the same URL.

Is this yours?: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=16078046

On November 11 2010 07:06 Xandos wrote:
K so going with

Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V version 2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC "compatible with Core i7/Core i5" Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026

2x G.SKILL 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-3GBNQ
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231224

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533


Generally you'd don't want all your ram slots to be filled so you'd want 3x2 for 6GB of ram. Less sticks puts less stress on your memory controller and will put less stress on you if a ram stick ends up being faulty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223
raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 23:30:08
November 10 2010 23:29 GMT
#2018
Yeah, thats mine.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=16078046

Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 00:03:55
November 11 2010 00:00 GMT
#2019
@rahleep:

You can't put combos in wish lists, I know, but with some tweaking you could get the price down. (With those part selections, I'm assuming you're aiming for a low budget.)

For most applications including most games, 3 cores wouldn't be any worse, so you could go with an Athlon II X3. They're a little cheaper and tend to have slightly higher clock speeds. A GTS 450 would be a very very slight downgrade, and this is going for $35 less. GTS 450 IIRC is between HD 5770 and HD 5750, which are already fairly close.

I'm not sure if I'd recommend a $30 case (1 80mm fan) for a build with a legit video card, especially since the case isn't reviewed so great. In the very least something like NZXT Gamma would be a big upgrade for $10 more. Seasonic S12II 520W Bronze is nice, but you wouldn't use close to 300W at full load (pretty conservative estimate) anyway so it seems a waste. As far as reliable budget lower-wattage units go, Antec Earthwatts 380D is efficient and overall solid. This would also be okay and quieter.

One comment about the monitor: 21.5" is kind of small for 1920x1080 resolution IMHO, but of course that's a personal preference issue.

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raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
November 11 2010 02:43 GMT
#2020
Great, did some research and made some changes.

Do I need anything else as far as cables/hardware (kinda want bluetooth for the phone...) ? If not I'm ready to go (nerdgasms).
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