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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 08:06:48
November 14 2010 08:06 GMT
#2041
big surprise:
the TruePower New 650W is a Seasonic!

I don't see why you would buy a new power supply though :/

I would go for the i5
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 14 2010 08:40 GMT
#2042
Yes i5, 760 if possible.

Antec Earthwatts 650w? Keep that. Especially if it's fairly new still.

Cases are still really good around the 50-100 range. Going higher isn't too necessary unless you want to do something specific with them.

Cooler Master cm690 ii
Cooler Master HAF 912
Antec Three Hundred/ Illusion
Almost anything Lian-Li, although I don't really pay too much attention to them.
Silverstone


Might also want to invest in a cpu cooler if you're going to overclock or have a lot of constant heavy usage.

Cooler Master Hyper 212
Thermaltake Frio
Scythe Mugen v2
Zalman CNPS10X Performa
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 09:27:10
November 14 2010 09:21 GMT
#2043
I will most likely give my older PC away, so I try to keep it intact as much as possible. Besides the Earthwatts isnt modular and well it looks like... I rigged a bomb in there. Dont want to bother with zipties and shoving all the wires again.

So refined build would be something along these lines.

i5-760 - $205.00
I'll invest the extra couple dollars for the 760.

Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 - $120.00

Spinpoint F3 1TB - $75.00

Antec TruePower 650W Modular - $100.00

Ripjaws 2x2GB DDR3 1600 - $75.00

Antec Three Hundred Illusion $70.00

The HAF 912 is nice but I prefer steel. In total about 645USD, all free shipping, Yay!
Invest into the accessories later on.

edit: Thanks for the recommendations, was going to get a Lian Li but the 300 Illusion is fine even without the side window Im usually obsessed with and is $50 cheaper.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 15:36:50
November 14 2010 15:36 GMT
#2044
On November 14 2010 13:48 Myrmidon wrote:
The CPU is not that great either. It would definitely have a lot of trouble in huge huge army battles; granted, the GPU is by far a bigger problem.

With a HD 3650, you could play on low settings just fine. It would work. Unfortunately, these old AGP cards are pretty expensive compared to what they should be (50% more or so?). If you want something that could play on medium at most resolutions, the HD 4650 could do that. Maybe you could find a better deal used.


A 4650? Yeah, I was just budgeting myself to 60 bucks, so I guess I'll stick with what I got. :/

I'm fine with low settings though. I really don't care for higher settings, so being able to run low just fine is awesome.

Thanks!
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 21:25:43
November 14 2010 16:13 GMT
#2045
Starting to think my CPU will cockblock my gpu, what do you guys think?

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=16078046
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 14 2010 19:48 GMT
#2046
On November 15 2010 01:13 raheelp wrote:
Starting to think my CPU will cockblock my gpu, what do you guys think?


I think you should give your specs so the techy guys can take a look? o_O
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 14 2010 22:10 GMT
#2047
On November 14 2010 06:24 Pseudo_Utopia wrote:
And finally, is it then not true that Win7 Pro > Win7 Home as far as running XP-friendly programs goes ? (e.g. SC:BW which seems to have issues with Win7 but not XP)

Thanks!


the winxp mode in win7 pro is not the kind of xp you're thinking of. if you've ever used something like virtual pc, its much more like that - very limited in what it can do. its meant for business IT peeps to load very old or incompatible software for use or testing. its not meant for games and such.

the built-in compatibility features of win vista/7 is all that is needed for running older programs, if the need arises. scbw has no issue running on win7, except for 1) menu color issues and 2) unable to play audio from other programs (like an mp3 player).
starleague forever
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-14 23:51:35
November 14 2010 23:46 GMT
#2048
Hey, so I read the OP, and every thing looks good, but I don't really know how to build my own computer, nor do I think I would be comfortable doing it. Obviously if you buy your own parts and build it itself you're going to save some money, but I don't mind spending a little extra money to have it made for me. Are there any websites, or stores (I live in Southern Ontario, Canada) that is reasonable on their rigs? I'm not knowledgeable enough to know whether or not I'm being ripped off, or being sold something that isn't worth it or necessary.

Any one have any ideas? I was thinking of an AlienWare PC...
EDIT: My budget is about $1000.00 to $1150.00 Canadian. I was thinking the AlienWare Aurora with all defaults (except 4 GB ram) for $1050.00 looked not bad? http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-aurora/pd?refid=alienware-aurora&~ck=mn
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 15 2010 00:12 GMT
#2049
On November 15 2010 08:46 Salv wrote:
Hey, so I read the OP, and every thing looks good, but I don't really know how to build my own computer, nor do I think I would be comfortable doing it. Obviously if you buy your own parts and build it itself you're going to save some money, but I don't mind spending a little extra money to have it made for me. Are there any websites, or stores (I live in Southern Ontario, Canada) that is reasonable on their rigs? I'm not knowledgeable enough to know whether or not I'm being ripped off, or being sold something that isn't worth it or necessary.

Any one have any ideas? I was thinking of an AlienWare PC...
EDIT: My budget is about $1000.00 to $1150.00 Canadian. I was thinking the AlienWare Aurora with all defaults (except 4 GB ram) for $1050.00 looked not bad? http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-aurora/pd?refid=alienware-aurora&~ck=mn


www.ncix.com

You can buy your own parts and pay them $50 to have them assemble, test, and install everything for you. Or if you don't feel comfortable with selecting your own parts, they also offer prebuilt systems that you can customize.

They have a store and warehouse in Markham, Ontario and Scarborough, Ontario.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-15 01:00:29
November 15 2010 01:00 GMT
#2050
On November 15 2010 08:46 Salv wrote:
Hey, so I read the OP, and every thing looks good, but I don't really know how to build my own computer, nor do I think I would be comfortable doing it. Obviously if you buy your own parts and build it itself you're going to save some money, but I don't mind spending a little extra money to have it made for me. Are there any websites, or stores (I live in Southern Ontario, Canada) that is reasonable on their rigs? I'm not knowledgeable enough to know whether or not I'm being ripped off, or being sold something that isn't worth it or necessary.

Any one have any ideas? I was thinking of an AlienWare PC...
EDIT: My budget is about $1000.00 to $1150.00 Canadian. I was thinking the AlienWare Aurora with all defaults (except 4 GB ram) for $1050.00 looked not bad? http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-aurora/pd?refid=alienware-aurora&~ck=mn


Pick some parts out from newegg and everyone will help you. Its easier than it looks... then just bring it to them and have them assemble it. Or you can just do it yourself and ask questions here, its really straight forward.

The only part you might have problems* are the configurations.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
November 15 2010 03:48 GMT
#2051
Thanks for the replies. I'll do my homework and decide what are the best budget pieces to buy, and from there I can decide whether I want to try my hand at installation, or just pay someone.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
November 15 2010 20:17 GMT
#2052
Been a few months since I last posted in here.

Any tips on video cards for video editing purposes? Probably going to be running some combination of Vegas/Premiere/After Effects. (AND for running SC2, of course)
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-15 20:41:44
November 15 2010 20:40 GMT
#2053
Just quipping in here, as I know they were extremely popular amongst other people as well when I was building my rig, the OCZ Vertex 2 50GB on Newegg is only $99.99 after MIR. Which is pretty good considering my 60GB was $159 only 2 months ago. It's really nice to just put a few programs on, like your OS to reduce boot time and games like SC2 .

It's a 48 hour sale tho, ends tues night.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227528&nm_mc=EMC-GD111510&cm_mmc=EMC-GD111510-_-EMC-111510-Index-_-SSD-_-20227528-L0B

EDIT: Or you can just get the 90GB version as a shell shocker... starts in being listed in 19 minutes from this edit... it's $149.99 after $20 MIR.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 15 2010 21:16 GMT
#2054
On November 16 2010 05:17 d3_crescentia wrote:
Been a few months since I last posted in here.

Any tips on video cards for video editing purposes? Probably going to be running some combination of Vegas/Premiere/After Effects. (AND for running SC2, of course)


I don't do much video editing myself at all (so take with many grains of salt) but...as far as I know, video editing doesn't use the GPU much at all. Essentially, the developers of video editing software have to go out of their way to put in parts of the code that can be executed by the GPU rather than the CPU. As far as GPU-accelerated video editing goes, I think a lot of it is CUDA-based, so you would want a Nvidia card if you want the small benefits in certain programs. Being able to run SC2 would be the more stringent requirement for the GPU.

Video editing is much more dependent on a strong CPU and having enough RAM. Hyperthreading is good; more CPU cores is even better.

A GTX 460 (or higher, but unnecessary) would be good for playing SC2 on ultra. At lower resolutions, a GTS 450 would be okay, though it's a decent step down.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
November 15 2010 22:20 GMT
#2055
Hi all,
I know absolutely nothing about building computers and I'm not planning on actually building my own. Instead I was most likely going to buy a computer already built from newegg. I was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229208

I would like to be able to stream SC2 and also play on ultra graphics. Will that computer allow me to do that? And are these pre-built computers worth it? Or should I just figure out how to build my own?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 15 2010 22:25 GMT
#2056
On November 16 2010 07:20 LambtrOn wrote:
Hi all,
I know absolutely nothing about building computers and I'm not planning on actually building my own. Instead I was most likely going to buy a computer already built from newegg. I was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229208

I would like to be able to stream SC2 and also play on ultra graphics. Will that computer allow me to do that? And are these pre-built computers worth it? Or should I just figure out how to build my own?


Not worth it. You could easily build a better computer for less, and that one doesn't have half the GPU power needed for a proper gaming computer.
LambtrOn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States671 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-15 22:41:51
November 15 2010 22:41 GMT
#2057
On November 16 2010 07:25 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 07:20 LambtrOn wrote:
Hi all,
I know absolutely nothing about building computers and I'm not planning on actually building my own. Instead I was most likely going to buy a computer already built from newegg. I was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229208

I would like to be able to stream SC2 and also play on ultra graphics. Will that computer allow me to do that? And are these pre-built computers worth it? Or should I just figure out how to build my own?


Not worth it. You could easily build a better computer for less, and that one doesn't have half the GPU power needed for a proper gaming computer.

Hmm alright. Thanks.
I guess I'd like to request a build since I have no idea what I'm doing. I know people who can probably help me put it together so that's not an issue.

My Budget: No more than $1000 total (including OS and monitor)
Resolution :1280x720
Type: Gaming and streaming
Upgrade Cycle: Most likely around 1-2 years
When: Once I get paid on friday
Overclocking: Don't really know what this is tbh, so no?
OS: I've heard Windows 7 really isn't all that different from XP. True? Probably end up getting 7 though.
Parts: There's a Microcenter where I live so there or newegg.com

Hope that's everything. Help is very much appreciated! Thanks ^^
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-15 23:26:07
November 15 2010 23:24 GMT
#2058
On November 16 2010 07:25 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 07:20 LambtrOn wrote:
Hi all,
I know absolutely nothing about building computers and I'm not planning on actually building my own. Instead I was most likely going to buy a computer already built from newegg. I was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229208

I would like to be able to stream SC2 and also play on ultra graphics. Will that computer allow me to do that? And are these pre-built computers worth it? Or should I just figure out how to build my own?


Not worth it. You could easily build a better computer for less, and that one doesn't have half the GPU power needed for a proper gaming computer.


Plus the power supply he linked is only 450 watts... God only knows what CyberpowerPC used as a power supply unit. It's probably some piece of shit that they got out of their closet. I know it's not Corsair for the price of the desktop given.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 16 2010 00:56 GMT
#2059
On November 16 2010 05:17 d3_crescentia wrote:
Been a few months since I last posted in here.

Any tips on video cards for video editing purposes? Probably going to be running some combination of Vegas/Premiere/After Effects. (AND for running SC2, of course)


Adobe CS5 is hardware accelerated through NVIDIA cards. Photoshop, Premiere, and After Effects are supported. Read more specifics here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/builtforadobepros.html
starleague forever
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 16 2010 01:15 GMT
#2060
On November 16 2010 07:41 LambtrOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 07:25 deconduo wrote:
On November 16 2010 07:20 LambtrOn wrote:
Hi all,
I know absolutely nothing about building computers and I'm not planning on actually building my own. Instead I was most likely going to buy a computer already built from newegg. I was looking at this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229208

I would like to be able to stream SC2 and also play on ultra graphics. Will that computer allow me to do that? And are these pre-built computers worth it? Or should I just figure out how to build my own?


Not worth it. You could easily build a better computer for less, and that one doesn't have half the GPU power needed for a proper gaming computer.

Hmm alright. Thanks.
I guess I'd like to request a build since I have no idea what I'm doing. I know people who can probably help me put it together so that's not an issue.

My Budget: No more than $1000 total (including OS and monitor)
Resolution :1280x720
Type: Gaming and streaming
Upgrade Cycle: Most likely around 1-2 years
When: Once I get paid on friday
Overclocking: Don't really know what this is tbh, so no?
OS: I've heard Windows 7 really isn't all that different from XP. True? Probably end up getting 7 though.
Parts: There's a Microcenter where I live so there or newegg.com

Hope that's everything. Help is very much appreciated! Thanks ^^


If you want to get an idea on how to build a computer, read this guide: http://techreport.com/articles.x/13671 (ignore the part with the blue screens at the end), Its a very simple process.

For a build, try this: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14293705

Since you have a microcenter nearby, fire up a spreadsheet and jot down the prices and do a comparison between the two to find the best prices for yourself.
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