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Hey, I recently started playing in Windowed (Full screen) mode and I was curious how people played.
I personally find it awesome, as it seems to be the best of both worlds without the negative impacts (At least I haven't had any of those issues). I can easily tab out of my game without the excessive downtime (Black screen) while not being distracted by IMs such as MSN.
So, I'm just curious if there's any downside I've not found and I guess this might also help people find a new feature they might have not tried?
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On May 24 2010 11:17 T)AK47 wrote: Downside is less FPS.
Oh, my machine is pretty good, FPS always at 60 (Capped) so I didn't pick up on this.
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I've been using maximized windowed ever since blizzard first implemented the feature in WoW, and i was very happy to see it in SC2, just like you, I can't seem to find any real downside to using it.
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Used it ever since beta launched and haven't found a downside yet, so yeah I guess some things are just awesome :p
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On May 24 2010 11:17 T)AK47 wrote: Downside is less FPS. ^
Not noticeable if your computer can handle it though.
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Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode.
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What's the difference? I don't see a change besides in window full screen you cant't pick a resolution or change your gamma and hertz
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On May 24 2010 11:19 ChaosShadow wrote: I've been using maximized windowed ever since blizzard first implemented the feature in WoW, and i was very happy to see it in SC2, just like you, I can't seem to find any real downside to using it. Likewise, I've been using it forever in WoW and now SC2. I really don't see a downside, as I haven't personally noticed any FPS differences, but for some reasons many of my friends dislike windowed mode. Personal preference I guess.
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On May 24 2010 11:37 KenTang wrote: What's the difference? I don't see a change besides in window full screen you cant't pick a resolution or change your gamma and hertz You can alt tab without lagging or freezing, and for people with widescreen monitors that cant change aspect ratio we can finally see mineral/gas/food count.
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On May 24 2010 11:33 Chaoz wrote: Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode.
Pressing Windows + D goes to desktop and minimises it, I believe.
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I have to use full screen windows mode because otherwise my cursor doesn't show up >_>
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I see no draw backs to full screen windowed mode so awesome that tabbing is like instant and everything .
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On May 24 2010 11:43 flowerpotwang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 11:33 Chaoz wrote: Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode. Pressing Windows + D goes to desktop and minimises it, I believe.
If I open a folder it goes back to sc2, which is really annoying.
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On May 24 2010 12:06 Chaoz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 11:43 flowerpotwang wrote:On May 24 2010 11:33 Chaoz wrote: Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode. Pressing Windows + D goes to desktop and minimises it, I believe. If I open a folder it goes back to sc2, which is really annoying.
That IS the only real downside I have found too maxed windowed. I have yet to find a way to keep it minimized when I open a folder.
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On May 24 2010 13:16 Zergling4life wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 12:06 Chaoz wrote:On May 24 2010 11:43 flowerpotwang wrote:On May 24 2010 11:33 Chaoz wrote: Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode. Pressing Windows + D goes to desktop and minimises it, I believe. If I open a folder it goes back to sc2, which is really annoying. That IS the only real downside I have found too maxed windowed. I have yet to find a way to keep it minimized when I open a folder. You can minimize if you open Task Manager, go to Applications and right click to minimize.
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always windowed so i can press the windows key and chat on msn, then pop right back into game without lagging
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On May 24 2010 12:06 Chaoz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 11:43 flowerpotwang wrote:On May 24 2010 11:33 Chaoz wrote: Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode. Pressing Windows + D goes to desktop and minimises it, I believe. If I open a folder it goes back to sc2, which is really annoying.
Icons? On a desktop? MADNESS.
I use Full Screen Windowed mode as well, very nice to jump to Livestream chats on the right display while playing on the left.
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I messed around with full screen and windowed full screen to test FPS and found absolutely no difference. No downside to it. Although some times I have to tab back in and out a couple times because I think there is a bug with dual screen. Occasionally my mouse will still go between both screens and not lock itself on the SC screen.
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i play windowed mode and my fps to be honest is BETTER if anything compared to fullscreen mode. Both works fine.. less alt-tabbing time with windowed FTW
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One thing i noticed, think it just came in last patch, is if you're alt tabbed from full screen while waiting to find a ranked game, the game automatically tabs back to full screen once the loading screen begins. Quite handy when there are a few minute wait times...
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On May 24 2010 13:29 Drayne wrote: i play windowed mode and my fps to be honest is BETTER if anything compared to fullscreen mode. Both works fine.. less alt-tabbing time with windowed FTW
Oddly this is true for me too. Its only about 5fps but it is better in windowed mode than full screen. This is running everything on high-ultra as well. (yay new cards power) I played with it for a few hours and regardless of the setting it had better fps in windowed, albeit it was minor improvement and worked fine either way.
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i love the full screen windowed mode! soo convenient!
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On May 24 2010 13:32 Cerzi wrote: One thing i noticed, think it just came in last patch, is if you're alt tabbed from full screen while waiting to find a ranked game, the game automatically tabs back to full screen once the loading screen begins. Quite handy when there are a few minute wait times... Its done that for a while, if not the beginning of beta
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I have two monitors, so when I try to navigate to the right, I go into the other screen nine times out of ten. If I didn't use two monitors, it would be an obvious choice.
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I can't belive so many people are playing with the default gamma. You are giving your opponents with light screens and the ability to spot units on creep a big edge.
Haven't you noticed how the game is more often than not significantly lighter when they swap to player cam in the star/proleagues? You see better with things lightened up.
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the game was super dark for me whenever i tried to use fullscreen windowed mode
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On May 24 2010 16:11 Triscuit wrote: I have two monitors, so when I try to navigate to the right, I go into the other screen nine times out of ten. If I didn't use two monitors, it would be an obvious choice. This
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The main difference between the windowed full screen and normal fullscreen is that in windowed full screen you cannot adjust brightness. Another one is that in windowed full screen you can switch faster between windows.
Plus this:
On May 24 2010 16:11 Triscuit wrote: I have two monitors, so when I try to navigate to the right, I go into the other screen nine times out of ten. If I didn't use two monitors, it would be an obvious choice.
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On May 24 2010 11:43 flowerpotwang wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2010 11:33 Chaoz wrote: Can't minimize when in full screen windowed mode. Pressing Windows + D goes to desktop and minimises it, I believe.
Win+D does not minimize anything (Win+M does, however), it simply puts the desktop window on top of the "visible" stack. This is the reason why other windows sometimes seem to "pop" back into view, especially if they are set as "always on top"
But yeah, running in fullscreen window mode is great if you can play at your desktop resolution, and have a computer/OS that can handle composite desktop windows
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Small bump, but I didnt see this pointed out and its actually insanely cool (Although likely not intentional).
In windowed (full screen), when alt-tabbed, the fact sc2 doesnt minimize is a good thing... Why? You can see through the transparent task bar if someone is talking to you or not!!!!
Pic example:
![[image loading]](http://i50.tinypic.com/eqxcv7.jpg)
It flashes just like a normal msn convo or something down the bottom if someone leaves a new msg, really handy if your 2v2 partner has gone afk or something and you're waiting for him to get back, so alt tab out to check teamliquid or something ^^
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Yup this mode is pretty awesome, since I found about it I've been using it
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I use it also, but as others have said, the lack of keeping it minimized while browsing around sucks a lot.
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I use it for casts so that I can use Procaster's screen capture to keep my cursor in the stream, but otherwise I stick to Fullscreen.
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I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is.
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On May 27 2010 15:38 guitarizt wrote: I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is.
I use two monitors and mine will. When I'm in game my mouse in limited to one of my monitors and can screen scroll in all directions. Only when I alt-tab can I move my mouse over to the left and my other monitor.
Maybe this is because I play on the right monitor? I dunno, because of my desk setup, my main monitor is always on the right, and I'll have secondary stuff on the left. I have no problem running full-screen windowed mode on my right monitor.
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On May 27 2010 15:41 LaughingTulkas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 15:38 guitarizt wrote: I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is. I use two monitors and mine will. When I'm in game my mouse in limited to one of my monitors and can screen scroll in all directions. Only when I alt-tab can I move my mouse over to the left and my other monitor. Maybe this is because I play on the right monitor? I dunno, because of my desk setup, my main monitor is always on the right, and I'll have secondary stuff on the left. I have no problem running full-screen windowed mode on my right monitor.
Monitor position does not matter, SC2 should lock your cursor into the main monitor/window when you're tabbed in, and should allow the cursor free movement across both monitors when you tab out, my monitors are the opposite position of yours, and it works perfectly.
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Less FPS as people have mentioned (rendering whatever's behind sc to some extent, even though you can't see what's behind sc), but if your rig runs your current settings fine, the difference is really negligible.
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In windowed mode you cannot scroll with the mouse throughout the map ingame. I find it quite damaging to the game - for instance if you want to see what happens 2 inches down from where you have vision on screen...
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On May 27 2010 15:54 ChaosShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 15:41 LaughingTulkas wrote:On May 27 2010 15:38 guitarizt wrote: I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is. I use two monitors and mine will. When I'm in game my mouse in limited to one of my monitors and can screen scroll in all directions. Only when I alt-tab can I move my mouse over to the left and my other monitor. Maybe this is because I play on the right monitor? I dunno, because of my desk setup, my main monitor is always on the right, and I'll have secondary stuff on the left. I have no problem running full-screen windowed mode on my right monitor. Monitor position does not matter, SC2 should lock your cursor into the main monitor/window when you're tabbed in, and should allow the cursor free movement across both monitors when you tab out, my monitors are the opposite position of yours, and it works perfectly.
Why are several people saying you can't do this then? It makes no sense.
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only real downside is if ur searching and u leave the game window, sc2 wont "pop" back up wen que pops so if ur in a really long que, u have to keep manually checkn if ur killing time on youtube or sumthing
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On May 27 2010 12:15 Ftrunkz wrote:Small bump, but I didnt see this pointed out and its actually insanely cool (Although likely not intentional). In windowed (full screen), when alt-tabbed, the fact sc2 doesnt minimize is a good thing... Why? You can see through the transparent task bar if someone is talking to you or not!!!! Pic example: + Show Spoiler +It flashes just like a normal msn convo or something down the bottom if someone leaves a new msg, really handy if your 2v2 partner has gone afk or something and you're waiting for him to get back, so alt tab out to check teamliquid or something ^^
LOL, I'm going ot have to turn transparency back on for this! Thanks for the tip.
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On May 27 2010 17:43 LaughingTulkas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 15:54 ChaosShadow wrote:On May 27 2010 15:41 LaughingTulkas wrote:On May 27 2010 15:38 guitarizt wrote: I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is. I use two monitors and mine will. When I'm in game my mouse in limited to one of my monitors and can screen scroll in all directions. Only when I alt-tab can I move my mouse over to the left and my other monitor. Maybe this is because I play on the right monitor? I dunno, because of my desk setup, my main monitor is always on the right, and I'll have secondary stuff on the left. I have no problem running full-screen windowed mode on my right monitor. Monitor position does not matter, SC2 should lock your cursor into the main monitor/window when you're tabbed in, and should allow the cursor free movement across both monitors when you tab out, my monitors are the opposite position of yours, and it works perfectly. Why are several people saying you can't do this then? It makes no sense. Maybe they just tried it once and SC2 sometimes (like 1 out of 10 times you switch) wont apply the limitation for the cursor so you're unable to scroll in game. You can fix it by just alt+tab again. I'm playing with a 3 monitor setup (middle one as main screen) and the max. windowed mode is working fine for me.
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The way I minimize SC2 is by just clicking a website link in the b.net interface. Like the b.net forums. Minimizes the game and then you just close the tab in your browser, huzzah. I can't imagine playing without Windowed Fullscreen, it's just so convenient.
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recently changed to windowed mode. It seems to lag pretty badly, I am not sure if windowed mode is the cause. but i really like the ability to alt+tab out quickly without black screen.
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On May 27 2010 17:54 Araex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 17:43 LaughingTulkas wrote:On May 27 2010 15:54 ChaosShadow wrote:On May 27 2010 15:41 LaughingTulkas wrote:On May 27 2010 15:38 guitarizt wrote: I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is. I use two monitors and mine will. When I'm in game my mouse in limited to one of my monitors and can screen scroll in all directions. Only when I alt-tab can I move my mouse over to the left and my other monitor. Maybe this is because I play on the right monitor? I dunno, because of my desk setup, my main monitor is always on the right, and I'll have secondary stuff on the left. I have no problem running full-screen windowed mode on my right monitor. Monitor position does not matter, SC2 should lock your cursor into the main monitor/window when you're tabbed in, and should allow the cursor free movement across both monitors when you tab out, my monitors are the opposite position of yours, and it works perfectly. Why are several people saying you can't do this then? It makes no sense. Maybe they just tried it once and SC2 sometimes (like 1 out of 10 times you switch) wont apply the limitation for the cursor so you're unable to scroll in game. You can fix it by just alt+tab again. I'm playing with a 3 monitor setup (middle one as main screen) and the max. windowed mode is working fine for me.
omg ty it works!!! <3 <3 <3 ot but was there any way to play bw with dual monitors and have the cursor stay on only one monitor?
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easy fix if your mouse is getting outside 1st monitor with sc2: click once somewhere in the 2nd monitor -> click inside 1st monitor again. mouse should be locked inside sc2 again, allowing sidescrolling etc.
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I'd use windowed fullscreen mode if my comp could handle it. Seriously it's such a big convenience to just press the windows key and change music you're listening to all the while not taking your eyes off of your forces for even 1s.
During gay stalemates you can browse TL, check the news/weather, get on skype/ventrilo/TS/Xfire and chat with friends. It's really the only way to play if your comp can handle it.
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Hm, i just checked and mine is in windowed mode aswell, this is what other games call a "non exclusive mode"
On May 24 2010 16:11 Triscuit wrote: I have two monitors, so when I try to navigate to the right, I go into the other screen nine times out of ten. If I didn't use two monitors, it would be an obvious choice.
Happens to me form time to time aswell, just alt-tab twice and it should be fixed
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WFSM is the future. It came like 1year ago and i its so awesome specially if you have 2 or 3 screens.
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On May 27 2010 18:24 guitarizt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2010 17:54 Araex wrote:On May 27 2010 17:43 LaughingTulkas wrote:On May 27 2010 15:54 ChaosShadow wrote:On May 27 2010 15:41 LaughingTulkas wrote:On May 27 2010 15:38 guitarizt wrote: I would use it except I have two monitors and the mouse won't screen scroll to the left where my other monitor is. I use two monitors and mine will. When I'm in game my mouse in limited to one of my monitors and can screen scroll in all directions. Only when I alt-tab can I move my mouse over to the left and my other monitor. Maybe this is because I play on the right monitor? I dunno, because of my desk setup, my main monitor is always on the right, and I'll have secondary stuff on the left. I have no problem running full-screen windowed mode on my right monitor. Monitor position does not matter, SC2 should lock your cursor into the main monitor/window when you're tabbed in, and should allow the cursor free movement across both monitors when you tab out, my monitors are the opposite position of yours, and it works perfectly. Why are several people saying you can't do this then? It makes no sense. Maybe they just tried it once and SC2 sometimes (like 1 out of 10 times you switch) wont apply the limitation for the cursor so you're unable to scroll in game. You can fix it by just alt+tab again. I'm playing with a 3 monitor setup (middle one as main screen) and the max. windowed mode is working fine for me. omg ty it works!!! <3 <3 <3 ot but was there any way to play bw with dual monitors and have the cursor stay on only one monitor? you can play bw just like any other game on a multiscreen setup, the cursor wont jump from screen to screen if you play it in fullscreen mode. usually a game will simply start fullscreen on the main monitor and the other monitors arent usable while playing.
thats why this fullscreen window mode is simply awesome! its a blessing for every multi screen user cause you can browser TL while wating for your matchup in WoW its even better, you can watch movies while farming etc. unfortunately hardly any game supports something like this.
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I use fullscreen when I play in a tournament or something, where I want the most fps possible and the most stability. For any other time though, I use windowed (fullscreen), it's nice to have that instant alt-tab, and able to see your SC2 window still while you are doing other things. So like you can browse TL, adjust your song playlist, and etc, all while still watching out for messages on Bnet (SC2 in background) or whatever.
I also stream a little bit, once in a while, and the programs that I use only really like windowed (fullscreen). The stream video tends to flicker if I use regular fullscreen with it.
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I use Windowmode ( Fullscreen ) or Pseudo Fullscreen mode on every game possible besides SC2. I noticed that because I have 2 monitors when I try to scroll the map instead of moving to the correct direction my mouse just hovers to the second monitor. I'm guessing this is because of the Windowmode/Fullscreen combination tho I'm not sure.
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The downside is.. if you have dual monitors you can't scroll to the right =\ Aside from that I'd most def play in windowed full screen haha
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On May 28 2010 22:44 flextra wrote: The downside is.. if you have dual monitors you can't scroll to the right =\ Aside from that I'd most def play in windowed full screen haha
Yes you can, it locks the cursor to the screen except when it's bugged out after you've alt-tabbed a few times (which can then be fixed by alt tabbing and clicking back on the FS window to focus it). You really should've tried it before saying it doesn't support something.
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so anyone got a fix for windowmode fullscreen sc2 poping up every time you open a program(for example skype when i open it sc2 pops up behind it even if it was minimized)
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for me there isnt a downside of window mode fullscreen
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I had a buddy tell me that the big difference is the way that your operating system handles the information when you alt+tab. The difference being Fullscreen mode it keeps it in ram where as when in Windowed Fullscreen it moves it to (at least for windows) the swap file. Idk how true this is though.
Personally I use Windowed Fullscreen for both WoW & SC2 and haven't had a problem yet. Really nice for dual monitors .
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I prefer to play on this as it actually lets me Dual-screen properly, and streaming with Xsplit becomes a lot easier.
Not really seen a downside to it yet apart from Skype/AIM notifications popping up but that can be easily changed anyway :D
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i play windowed full screen buy i have a mac and some times the dock will stay on top of the SC2 screen and will not desapear is this a bug?
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disadvantage would be inability to set brightness/gamma in game. Not a big deal
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I don't like it. Too little Gamma brightness.
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the only prob i find with it is that u cant minimize so it will stick to ur background, which could be annoying if u wanna pick something up from the deskop
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On June 14 2011 20:18 IIIOmegaIII wrote:the only prob i find with it is that u cant minimize so it will stick to ur background, which could be annoying if u wanna pick something up from the deskop 
if your running windows 7 theres that little button on the bottom right of your taskbar that minimizes everything.
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sometimes if ur in full screen windowed, i alt tab then i cant use keyboard
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On June 14 2011 20:23 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2011 20:18 IIIOmegaIII wrote:the only prob i find with it is that u cant minimize so it will stick to ur background, which could be annoying if u wanna pick something up from the deskop  if your running windows 7 theres that little button on the bottom right of your taskbar that minimizes everything. we all know about that the problem is when you minimize & then open other program sc pops up again
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I just use... well
Windowed (Fullscreen), and then use a program called "Tray It!" to force it to HIDE the window and put an icon of it onto the tray ^_^'
On June 14 2011 20:33 b_unnies wrote: sometimes if ur in full screen windowed, i alt tab then i cant use keyboard then once you realize that, alt tab out and back again quickly and you should be able to use the keyboard again.
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When i do windowed fullscreen i get BETTER than if its just fullscreen. Don't as me why but i definitely do.
Edit: er oops, better fps
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On June 14 2011 21:11 DannyJ wrote: When i do windowed fullscreen i get BETTER than if its just fullscreen. Don't as me why but i definitely do.
Placebo, hmmm?
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Prefer playing on full screen as I find a gamma restriction with windowed full screen which I'm sure there is a walk around for but I just cbf looking 
Still use windowed full screen when watching gom or some other streams on the other screen while playing lol I can't notice any FPS difference as my machine is pretty decent but I do find it runs alot smoother in Full screen rather than windowed full screen (yet same fps displayed in the corner which i cap at 75 where it stays most of the game.)
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I've played windowed (Fullscreen) since SC2 came out. I love it as I have dual monitors so I'm always hitting windows key to change music etc.
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Thinking about switching over to playing exclusively windowed, as I feel a smaller game screen lets me be more map aware rather than having my shift my eyes a greater distance to find/see something. Anyone else play in windowed mode when they have a giant monitor?
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