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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 22:49:52
May 20 2010 22:46 GMT
#941
FragKrag: Yeah, I think it's because it's out of stock. How does OCZ fit in?

Also, any misc changes?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 23:06:04
May 20 2010 22:51 GMT
#942
What do you mean by OCZ? I don't think OCZ has any LGA 1156/1366 compatible heatsinks that are being sold at the moment o_O

Though I can only remember the Vendetta and the Tempest.

Edit: Oh yeah mean PSUs.

The only OCZ PSUs worth considering are the ModXStream Pro line, Fatal1ty line, and the Z-series. The Z-series is completely out of your range though.

As for the ModXStream Pros, I believe they are made by Sirtec and I have never heard anything good about the ModXStreams. I remember reading a very bad review of them on a benchmark site, but I cannot remember where it was. What I do remember is that it uses Chinese capacitors which are normally pretty bad ;_;

I could not recommend a ModXStream OCZ, but if you want to buy one go for it. I think kofgokuon has an OCZ PSU (not sure what it is)

I don't know about the Fatal1ty line though. Maybe it's higher quality?
Apparently the Fatal1ty line does not use Japanese capacitors, but Taiwanese capacitors, though the guy seemed to have a positive reaction.
http://www.pcshoptalk.com/showthread.php?25542-OCZ-Fatal1ty-550W-Power-Supply-Review
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 00:18:00
May 21 2010 00:16 GMT
#943
Oh, thanks. Anything else you would change in the build, or a specific PSU you'd go for? (or HSF)
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
May 21 2010 01:57 GMT
#944
I have a 500 W modxstream-pro, which I probably will have to upgrade whenever I get around to buying my 5850. I wish I'd just bought a 550 W PSU originally so that I'd feel more secure with my PSU but between overclocking and having a decent number of HD's I probably should get something a little bigger with more head room for further upgrades

a friend of mine has a 600 W modxstream pro. I mean, it's anecdotal in that it's only 2 data points, but fwiw ours work fine.
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
May 24 2010 21:12 GMT
#945
What should I get to play 4vs4 on lowest settings with no lag at a fairly low res?
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 24 2010 21:18 GMT
#946
On May 21 2010 10:57 KOFgokuon wrote:
I have a 500 W modxstream-pro, which I probably will have to upgrade whenever I get around to buying my 5850. I wish I'd just bought a 550 W PSU originally so that I'd feel more secure with my PSU but between overclocking and having a decent number of HD's I probably should get something a little bigger with more head room for further upgrades

a friend of mine has a 600 W modxstream pro. I mean, it's anecdotal in that it's only 2 data points, but fwiw ours work fine.

Depends what the peak output is on the 500w modxstream, 5850 can run well on a 500w if it's a good one although if you oc alot and have alot of peripherals/ram/hdd's etc you might run into an issue, but ionno about shit from ocz their psu's in the past have been skimpy although they did acquire pc power and cooling awhile back but ionno if they just did that to boost their rep for psu's or to acutlly benefit from better psu design.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 24 2010 21:21 GMT
#947
On May 25 2010 06:12 guitarizt wrote:
What should I get to play 4vs4 on lowest settings with no lag at a fairly low res?

A better Internet connection

Oh lowest hum, i assume it's a cost thing?9600GSO, 5570, 5550 ionno about scaping the bottom of the barrel, usually posting what you have and what is the price range is the way to go in terms of looking for cards.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 24 2010 23:41 GMT
#948
guitarizt: 5570, 4670, 9600GSO, 9600GT all fit the bill quite well

as for OCZ and PC Power & Cooling: I don't believe any of their power supplies have actually benefited from the acquisition yet Obviously we haven't seen any OCZ Silencers (though maybe the Z-series was a PC Power idea?)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 24 2010 23:48 GMT
#949
What would a better 500-600w psu be then? (for a goodish price)
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 24 2010 23:51 GMT
#950
Laptop
Core i3 330M 2.13GHz
Intel 4500 Integrated
4GB DDR3
Low

1366x768
range of 42-75 fps
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 24 2010 23:53 GMT
#951
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

This wouldn't be a bad choice.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Feverus
Profile Joined April 2010
71 Posts
May 24 2010 23:54 GMT
#952
9600 GT, Intel Core2 @ 2.91 GHz.
Windows 7 x64 with 4 gigs RAM

I'm playing on medium (1900x1200) because anything higher will slow down. If I turn the settings to Ultra, I get 25 FPS at the very beginning (!!) of the game on a 2v2 and it feels like 5 FPS or lower. Messing with the settings shows that I'm being GPU bottlenecked (increasing CPU settings like physics doesn't decrease FPS) but temps and GPU use are fine.

Conversely, I get 30-40 FPS with everything maxxed out on Bioshock 2 and it feels perfectly smooth. I think something's off.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 25 2010 00:01 GMT
#953
Yeah, just saw that. I'm trying to figure out wattage, but am not entirely sure. Newegg calc says 490watt is good, antec scays about 390. I think 520 should do it?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 25 2010 00:02 GMT
#954
It should be absolutely fine
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Feverus
Profile Joined April 2010
71 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-25 00:13:26
May 25 2010 00:12 GMT
#955
On May 25 2010 09:01 Froadac wrote:
Yeah, just saw that. I'm trying to figure out wattage, but am not entirely sure. Newegg calc says 490watt is good, antec scays about 390. I think 520 should do it?


You'll be under 250 watts under load :-)

Notice that an overclocked GTS 250 with i7 3.2 ghz quadcore is under 240 watts:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gts-250,2172-10.html

Most people grossly overestimate their power supply requirements. However, many low quality power supplies are incapable of supplying more than half their wattage on the 12 volt rail (which is what all major components use) or are simply dysfunctional.

Edit: That's at AC source, and PSUs are around 80% efficient.. so more like under 192 watts for their system. Of course, that wasn't with the quad totally maxxed out, but you get the point.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
May 25 2010 00:20 GMT
#956
I got a few questions for you computer pros:
1. is 3gb of ddr2 enough RAM? when i run SC2, almost 55% of my memory is taken up. this is just from sitting in the lobby. when I 2v2, i noticed the it goes up to 80% and more.
2. does hot weather fuck up a weak gpu? it's been really hot the past weekend, and my sc2 and consequently my entire computer has froze up multiple times. is it the weather/overheating? or is it patch 13?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 25 2010 00:23 GMT
#957
Yes, hot weather does affect the performance of the GPU if your GPU is not adequately cooled. If I were you, I would open the case and try to see how much dust has caked up inside your case and most importantly, your GPU. Most computer parts will throttle themselves when they reach a high temperature in an attempt to lower temperatures, which causes performance stuttering.

3GB of DDR2 should be adequate for high at least. I think Blizzard has said 4GB is recommended for Ultra (I think, not sure if I could find original source).
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Feverus
Profile Joined April 2010
71 Posts
May 25 2010 00:31 GMT
#958
On May 25 2010 09:20 caelym wrote:
I got a few questions for you computer pros:
1. is 3gb of ddr2 enough RAM? when i run SC2, almost 55% of my memory is taken up. this is just from sitting in the lobby. when I 2v2, i noticed the it goes up to 80% and more.
2. does hot weather fuck up a weak gpu? it's been really hot the past weekend, and my sc2 and consequently my entire computer has froze up multiple times. is it the weather/overheating? or is it patch 13?


Windows uses your RAM to cache programs and such and reports the memory as "in use" (cached, etc) but it will free it if needed. Unless you've got a ton of stuff going on you have nothing to worry about. Think about it this way: 32 bit games will actually crash if they use more than 1.5-2 gigs of RAM. You're fine.

Regarding temperatures:

If your GPU fan can't cool itself, the GPU will throttle and the game will slow down. However, this may not be enough and then your computer crashes. You're burning up your GPU, this is bad.

Here is a good tool to check fan speed and temps, there are many others. If your GPU is at like 90 celsius and the fan isn't at max, something is wrong. If the fan is at max and the GPU goes to like 95-100, you NEED more cooling. You can buy case fans or a bigger aftermarket fan for your GPU.
stripe-
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1 Post
May 25 2010 04:08 GMT
#959
Hey Guys,

I posted this in the Bliz forums but got no responses from anyone, so hopefully you can be more insightful.

I am playing the Mac client with the following Macbook Pro specs:

MacBookPro5,3
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 512 MB

I am experience weird FPS oscillations, both in game and while in the B.net menus. In game my FPS oscillates between 60 and 15, and in the menus it oscillates between 22 and 60. I am playing on the default settings for my computer (medium). I'm not sure if the problem existed before Patch 13 or not - I have just recently noticed it via the ctrl+alt+f command to show FPS.

Anyhow, if anyone has experienced this or has any suggestions I'm all ears.
Thanks in advance
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 25 2010 04:17 GMT
#960
I have about the same specs except with a bit weaker Core 2 Duo @ 2.53GHz and the problem here could be an overheating component, or just that the 9600M GT is not capable of running medium (more likely the second). I am actually running it on low and getting perfectly playable framerates.

At the moment, the same hardware on a Mac will run worse than PC hardware because SC2 has not been fully optimized.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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