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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 19 2010 00:59 GMT
#921
Phenom II X6 are great for mulithreaded apps, but in apps that don't use the extra cores, they perform fairly bad compared to Phenom II X4 or Intel i5

6150SE will probably struggle even on low
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
May 19 2010 03:20 GMT
#922
i'm looking to upgrade from my 8800 gts 640, what card is good that will run on my 500w power supply? so far i've been thinking the hd5770 which is about $150 on newegg, anything within the $200 range that would be a better value than the 5770?

i get 30-40 fps on medium @ 1280x720, dips down below 20 on zerg creep or big battles though.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 19 2010 03:25 GMT
#923
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 05:12:44
May 19 2010 05:11 GMT
#924
On May 15 2010 00:22 Southlight wrote:
Quick question: my graphics card just died, and I was looking to upgrade anyways (from an old 8800GT). I'm sitting on a Q8400 quad with 4gb RAM, thinking of getting a 5830, would that be a bad idea or should it be fine. Also rather confused by the increasing increments for PCI express version numbers, haven't really been keeping up with the tech specs (not really a techie here) so all of a sudden I'm seeing like PCI ex 2.1s and going what? Is that even compatible with my mobo now?

Edit:
I guess I might as well ask about power supply, too.

I'm looking primarily at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
aided in large part by the fact that I have good confidence in Corsair, but
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL051410&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL051410-_-EMC-051410-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17341018-LC2B
is really, really cheap at the moment. The latter also doesn't specify amps on their 12V rail, while Corsair tends to load massive amps into the 12V, which is a large reason why I usually just get Corsair and be carefree about power consump.



5830 is a good buy if you are interested in dx11. If not just get a 4890 which is cheaper and more powerful. Or just get a 5850, best bang for your buck.
Question.?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 19 2010 05:13 GMT
#925
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 05:49:22
May 19 2010 05:46 GMT
#926
Hi I really don't know much about anything about graphics or processors, my brother knows a bit more so he got our new card, but I'm wondering about what I should be running my SC2 at. Our computer is about 3-4 years old or something.

Here's what my computer looks like in dxdiag
Operating System: Windows Vista Home
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1 GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (I think it's a 4850 with 512 MB)

So I was able to run SC2 at High originally, but realized that in any battles especially in 2v2s the frame rate would literally just die. I got about 70 FPS at the start of the game as Zerg, but soon the FPS drops to 40 and then maintains a steady 10-15 midgame, and still in big big battles my FPS will just drop literally down to 2-3 FPS and I can barely move. Mothership popping basically breaks my framerate too. I moved my resolution down from 1680x1050 to 1440x900 and reduced a lot of my graphics settings (turned shadows off, most things on medium or low, etc.) and it seemed to alleviate a little bit of my problems, but not totally. I start the game now with about 100 FPS, drops to 70 and about 15-25 during midgame, and still drops quite low in the biggest battles. I don't think I've had any problems in 1v1 but in 2v2s if the game goes long and people macro up I still start to lag. Any suggestions? I tried reading stuff about bottlenecks and this thread and whatever but I don't know much about computers!
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irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
May 19 2010 16:33 GMT
#927
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


for close to $200 i better be able to play on ultra at 1920x1080
PGHammer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
May 19 2010 16:57 GMT
#928
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


Considering I can run at Ultra with an HD5450 at the same resolution (with a Celeron DC E1200!), I would think that the 5770 with 1 GB GDDR5 should be able to, even with the same CPU. The big problem (and it's with any AMD GPU) is the lack of in-game AA (resulting in jaggies/over-sharp detail), which is why I backed it down to High.
Bad news, fellas
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 20 2010 00:29 GMT
#929
On May 19 2010 14:46 Superiorwolf wrote:
Hi I really don't know much about anything about graphics or processors, my brother knows a bit more so he got our new card, but I'm wondering about what I should be running my SC2 at. Our computer is about 3-4 years old or something.

Here's what my computer looks like in dxdiag
Operating System: Windows Vista Home
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1 GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (I think it's a 4850 with 512 MB)

So I was able to run SC2 at High originally, but realized that in any battles especially in 2v2s the frame rate would literally just die. I got about 70 FPS at the start of the game as Zerg, but soon the FPS drops to 40 and then maintains a steady 10-15 midgame, and still in big big battles my FPS will just drop literally down to 2-3 FPS and I can barely move. Mothership popping basically breaks my framerate too. I moved my resolution down from 1680x1050 to 1440x900 and reduced a lot of my graphics settings (turned shadows off, most things on medium or low, etc.) and it seemed to alleviate a little bit of my problems, but not totally. I start the game now with about 100 FPS, drops to 70 and about 15-25 during midgame, and still drops quite low in the biggest battles. I don't think I've had any problems in 1v1 but in 2v2s if the game goes long and people macro up I still start to lag. Any suggestions? I tried reading stuff about bottlenecks and this thread and whatever but I don't know much about computers!


Going to need to download the newest drivers before anything. Maybe those will help a bit. Not sure what is going on with your setup because the HD 4850 should be absolutely fine at high settings.. :/


On May 20 2010 01:33 irishash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


for close to $200 i better be able to play on ultra at 1920x1080


Should be possible with the 5770, 5830, and the 4890, though the 5770 may have problems at the larger battles. Make sure you get the 1GB version of the 5770 if you want to run at 1920x1080.


On May 20 2010 01:57 PGHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


Considering I can run at Ultra with an HD5450 at the same resolution (with a Celeron DC E1200!), I would think that the 5770 with 1 GB GDDR5 should be able to, even with the same CPU. The big problem (and it's with any AMD GPU) is the lack of in-game AA (resulting in jaggies/over-sharp detail), which is why I backed it down to High.


No you don't.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 02:58:28
May 20 2010 02:56 GMT
#930
HD 5830 is only $230 right now on new egg, would i be able to run this card on a 500w power supply? in the specs it says minimum 500w, i have a pretty good power supply do you think i'd be alright? i don't plan on overclocking it myself if that matters

edit: something was said above, that all ATI cards have no AA? is this in starcraft 2 or in all games?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 20 2010 02:57 GMT
#931
Yes, it should be fine. You can get an HD 5830 for around $215 though. (after MIR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 20 2010 03:19 GMT
#932
I can get a 1gb gts250 for 110 or a 4850 512mb on newegg for 100, or a 1gb 4850 for 115, which is the best deal?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 20 2010 03:30 GMT
#933
The GTS 250 is the best deal.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 20 2010 03:36 GMT
#934
Thanks, give me a couple seconds to compile my build and then off to PSU finding land...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 20 2010 04:08 GMT
#935
haha finding good PSUs is always so fun. It's a pitty Newegg is out of stock on those Corsair HX750s though
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
May 20 2010 04:16 GMT
#936
bit of an overkill don't you think
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 05:35:14
May 20 2010 05:31 GMT
#937
[image loading]

Here is what I have so far. I need to choose a processor, I already have an antec 300 case, and I'll need a HSF and PSU. What are your guys' choices for those components.

Also, never fear the prices. If I order soon there are about $65 in mail in rebates/promo codes.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 20 2010 05:45 GMT
#938
I'd go with the 635

Also if you have a antec 300 i think you can save 20 bucks and not go the twin frozor for the gpu, or hell if you don't like the fans in the antec case a little loud you can replace them with higher quality noctura fans or scythe fans.

PSU i'd go with ~500w psu there are plenty of choices just depends on what is cheap for the day

HSF depends on price there are plenty of good ones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
shame on the price though used to be cheaper but cost of being popular
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 20 2010 05:49 GMT
#939
Wy 635 over 440? Just curious. Also, the twin frozor is $105. Otherwise I'd get something cheaper, but it's the cheapest 250 I've seen.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
May 20 2010 05:55 GMT
#940
The 635 has the extra core which will help in some games.

Hyper 212 is a complete waste now because just 2 days ago it was at $27

As for PSU, just go for the Antec/Corsair/Sea Sonic/Silverstone that suits your needs and is 80+ certified (or higher ie Bronze)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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