• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:01
CEST 11:01
KST 18:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!14Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
Best Games Kespa era BW General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4754 users

[Guideline] SC2 Computers - Page 47

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
Prev 1 45 46 47 48 49 66 Next
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 19 2010 00:59 GMT
#921
Phenom II X6 are great for mulithreaded apps, but in apps that don't use the extra cores, they perform fairly bad compared to Phenom II X4 or Intel i5

6150SE will probably struggle even on low
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
May 19 2010 03:20 GMT
#922
i'm looking to upgrade from my 8800 gts 640, what card is good that will run on my 500w power supply? so far i've been thinking the hd5770 which is about $150 on newegg, anything within the $200 range that would be a better value than the 5770?

i get 30-40 fps on medium @ 1280x720, dips down below 20 on zerg creep or big battles though.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 19 2010 03:25 GMT
#923
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 05:12:44
May 19 2010 05:11 GMT
#924
On May 15 2010 00:22 Southlight wrote:
Quick question: my graphics card just died, and I was looking to upgrade anyways (from an old 8800GT). I'm sitting on a Q8400 quad with 4gb RAM, thinking of getting a 5830, would that be a bad idea or should it be fine. Also rather confused by the increasing increments for PCI express version numbers, haven't really been keeping up with the tech specs (not really a techie here) so all of a sudden I'm seeing like PCI ex 2.1s and going what? Is that even compatible with my mobo now?

Edit:
I guess I might as well ask about power supply, too.

I'm looking primarily at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
aided in large part by the fact that I have good confidence in Corsair, but
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL051410&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL051410-_-EMC-051410-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17341018-LC2B
is really, really cheap at the moment. The latter also doesn't specify amps on their 12V rail, while Corsair tends to load massive amps into the 12V, which is a large reason why I usually just get Corsair and be carefree about power consump.



5830 is a good buy if you are interested in dx11. If not just get a 4890 which is cheaper and more powerful. Or just get a 5850, best bang for your buck.
Question.?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 19 2010 05:13 GMT
#925
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-19 05:49:22
May 19 2010 05:46 GMT
#926
Hi I really don't know much about anything about graphics or processors, my brother knows a bit more so he got our new card, but I'm wondering about what I should be running my SC2 at. Our computer is about 3-4 years old or something.

Here's what my computer looks like in dxdiag
Operating System: Windows Vista Home
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1 GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (I think it's a 4850 with 512 MB)

So I was able to run SC2 at High originally, but realized that in any battles especially in 2v2s the frame rate would literally just die. I got about 70 FPS at the start of the game as Zerg, but soon the FPS drops to 40 and then maintains a steady 10-15 midgame, and still in big big battles my FPS will just drop literally down to 2-3 FPS and I can barely move. Mothership popping basically breaks my framerate too. I moved my resolution down from 1680x1050 to 1440x900 and reduced a lot of my graphics settings (turned shadows off, most things on medium or low, etc.) and it seemed to alleviate a little bit of my problems, but not totally. I start the game now with about 100 FPS, drops to 70 and about 15-25 during midgame, and still drops quite low in the biggest battles. I don't think I've had any problems in 1v1 but in 2v2s if the game goes long and people macro up I still start to lag. Any suggestions? I tried reading stuff about bottlenecks and this thread and whatever but I don't know much about computers!
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
May 19 2010 16:33 GMT
#927
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


for close to $200 i better be able to play on ultra at 1920x1080
PGHammer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States132 Posts
May 19 2010 16:57 GMT
#928
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


Considering I can run at Ultra with an HD5450 at the same resolution (with a Celeron DC E1200!), I would think that the 5770 with 1 GB GDDR5 should be able to, even with the same CPU. The big problem (and it's with any AMD GPU) is the lack of in-game AA (resulting in jaggies/over-sharp detail), which is why I backed it down to High.
Bad news, fellas
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 20 2010 00:29 GMT
#929
On May 19 2010 14:46 Superiorwolf wrote:
Hi I really don't know much about anything about graphics or processors, my brother knows a bit more so he got our new card, but I'm wondering about what I should be running my SC2 at. Our computer is about 3-4 years old or something.

Here's what my computer looks like in dxdiag
Operating System: Windows Vista Home
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 8400 Triple-Core Processor (3 CPUs), ~2.1 GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (I think it's a 4850 with 512 MB)

So I was able to run SC2 at High originally, but realized that in any battles especially in 2v2s the frame rate would literally just die. I got about 70 FPS at the start of the game as Zerg, but soon the FPS drops to 40 and then maintains a steady 10-15 midgame, and still in big big battles my FPS will just drop literally down to 2-3 FPS and I can barely move. Mothership popping basically breaks my framerate too. I moved my resolution down from 1680x1050 to 1440x900 and reduced a lot of my graphics settings (turned shadows off, most things on medium or low, etc.) and it seemed to alleviate a little bit of my problems, but not totally. I start the game now with about 100 FPS, drops to 70 and about 15-25 during midgame, and still drops quite low in the biggest battles. I don't think I've had any problems in 1v1 but in 2v2s if the game goes long and people macro up I still start to lag. Any suggestions? I tried reading stuff about bottlenecks and this thread and whatever but I don't know much about computers!


Going to need to download the newest drivers before anything. Maybe those will help a bit. Not sure what is going on with your setup because the HD 4850 should be absolutely fine at high settings.. :/


On May 20 2010 01:33 irishash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


for close to $200 i better be able to play on ultra at 1920x1080


Should be possible with the 5770, 5830, and the 4890, though the 5770 may have problems at the larger battles. Make sure you get the 1GB version of the 5770 if you want to run at 1920x1080.


On May 20 2010 01:57 PGHammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2010 14:13 semantics wrote:
On May 19 2010 12:25 FragKrag wrote:
5770 is pretty much the best card in the price range other than the HD 4890 (if you can find one).

at 1280x720 he can probably ultra it without many drops assuming his cpu fits the bill.


Considering I can run at Ultra with an HD5450 at the same resolution (with a Celeron DC E1200!), I would think that the 5770 with 1 GB GDDR5 should be able to, even with the same CPU. The big problem (and it's with any AMD GPU) is the lack of in-game AA (resulting in jaggies/over-sharp detail), which is why I backed it down to High.


No you don't.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
irishash
Profile Joined November 2008
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 02:58:28
May 20 2010 02:56 GMT
#930
HD 5830 is only $230 right now on new egg, would i be able to run this card on a 500w power supply? in the specs it says minimum 500w, i have a pretty good power supply do you think i'd be alright? i don't plan on overclocking it myself if that matters

edit: something was said above, that all ATI cards have no AA? is this in starcraft 2 or in all games?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 20 2010 02:57 GMT
#931
Yes, it should be fine. You can get an HD 5830 for around $215 though. (after MIR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 20 2010 03:19 GMT
#932
I can get a 1gb gts250 for 110 or a 4850 512mb on newegg for 100, or a 1gb 4850 for 115, which is the best deal?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 20 2010 03:30 GMT
#933
The GTS 250 is the best deal.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 20 2010 03:36 GMT
#934
Thanks, give me a couple seconds to compile my build and then off to PSU finding land...
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 20 2010 04:08 GMT
#935
haha finding good PSUs is always so fun. It's a pitty Newegg is out of stock on those Corsair HX750s though
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
May 20 2010 04:16 GMT
#936
bit of an overkill don't you think
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 05:35:14
May 20 2010 05:31 GMT
#937
[image loading]

Here is what I have so far. I need to choose a processor, I already have an antec 300 case, and I'll need a HSF and PSU. What are your guys' choices for those components.

Also, never fear the prices. If I order soon there are about $65 in mail in rebates/promo codes.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 20 2010 05:45 GMT
#938
I'd go with the 635

Also if you have a antec 300 i think you can save 20 bucks and not go the twin frozor for the gpu, or hell if you don't like the fans in the antec case a little loud you can replace them with higher quality noctura fans or scythe fans.

PSU i'd go with ~500w psu there are plenty of choices just depends on what is cheap for the day

HSF depends on price there are plenty of good ones
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
shame on the price though used to be cheaper but cost of being popular
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 20 2010 05:49 GMT
#939
Wy 635 over 440? Just curious. Also, the twin frozor is $105. Otherwise I'd get something cheaper, but it's the cheapest 250 I've seen.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
May 20 2010 05:55 GMT
#940
The 635 has the extra core which will help in some games.

Hyper 212 is a complete waste now because just 2 days ago it was at $27

As for PSU, just go for the Antec/Corsair/Sea Sonic/Silverstone that suits your needs and is 80+ certified (or higher ie Bronze)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Prev 1 45 46 47 48 49 66 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 121
BRAT_OK 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Yoon 457
Mong 263
Sharp 55
ToSsGirL 35
sorry 30
Noble 20
yabsab 13
NotJumperer 6
Dota 2
The International36521
Gorgc12039
Fuzer 264
KheZu31
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1403
shoxiejesuss1021
byalli529
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King154
Other Games
summit1g5439
ceh9482
crisheroes143
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1169
League of Legends
• Jankos1180
• Stunt647
• HappyZerGling95
Upcoming Events
Escore
59m
PiG Sty Festival
2h 59m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
Big Brain Bouts
6h 59m
Nicoract vs Neeb
TriGGeR vs ShoWTimE
CranKy Ducklings
1d
PiG Sty Festival
1d 2h
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
IPSL
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-13
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W7
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.