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Nevius
Profile Joined February 2010
Switzerland72 Posts
March 13 2010 08:38 GMT
#461
The asus seems to be pretty awesome for the price :D
Exactly what i was looking for.

Thanks alot.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
March 13 2010 08:41 GMT
#462
I'm praying my lenovo with a Intel GMA 4500 will be able to run it decently or I will be without sc2 for a week.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 08:42:27
March 13 2010 08:42 GMT
#463
you are most likely going to be out of SC2 for a week.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Igottheil
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina21 Posts
March 13 2010 08:44 GMT
#464
Fragkrag I've been doing some reseasrch and asking some questions to some physics professors on campus, and they say that the human eye cannot distinguish fps after 30?? Do you think its true? cause atm im running my system

i5 650 3.2ghz
4 gig ddr3
nvidia geforce 9800gt 1 gig ddr2
1600x1200 resolution

i run everything on high, and i can run it an ultra but the fps sits around 20 and i notice a differnt, but on high its 45-55 (in any given moment of a game)

so my question is this? if the human eye can't detect past 30 fps then wouldn't it make sense to have a system that runs everything on ultra or high but only needing to be at a minimum of 30 fps?
Fear the reaper man
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 08:48:57
March 13 2010 08:47 GMT
#465
No it is not true

There is a notable difference in FPS between 60 and 30. I can't really tell the difference above 60ish, but 60 is much much smoother when it comes to games than 30.

50-60FPS is generally considered playable for RTS.

It's just that physics professors don't play enough video games :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Igottheil
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina21 Posts
March 13 2010 08:57 GMT
#466
k k, personal experience seems to be a better option! ill run my system on medium see how it feels.
Fear the reaper man
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
March 13 2010 17:22 GMT
#467
Hey, quick question here, probably really stupid (I'm somewhat of a newbie at this kind of thing).

I want to get a new Dell desktop at some point this year, one that will hopefully run SC2 at max or near-max settings.

All of your processor, RAM, etc benchmarks can be met easily using the cheaper Inspiron line; however, all of these come with cheap Intel integrated video cards, with optional "upgrades" that wouldn't give me any choice in picking a graphics card at all and would also require me to buy a bunch of other crap with them. The only other way to get a decent graphics card with the computer is to buy one of their so-called "gaming line," which are way more expensive and come with a bunch of crap I neither need nor want.

So, my question is, if I get, say, a Dell Inspiron 5800 with an i3 processor, 320 gigs of hard drive space, 4 gigs of RAM, and a complimentary "Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD," could I then separately buy a good ATI graphics card (say, the ATI 5770) and upgrade my computer with it? How easy/difficult would this upgrade process be (that is, would it be a simple enough task for me to perform myself without much in the way of expert knowledge)?

I realize this is probably a pretty stupid question, so thanks in advance.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
March 13 2010 17:39 GMT
#468
I don't think it would actually work. The higher end video cards require more power from their power supplies. Like the 5770 needs at least 400W of power, and most of those Dell computers probably have like 250W PSUs.

However, if the PSU was ample enough, it would be a fairly simple process. You should still consider building a computer though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
March 13 2010 17:43 GMT
#469
On March 14 2010 02:22 Captain Peabody wrote:
Hey, quick question here, probably really stupid (I'm somewhat of a newbie at this kind of thing).

I want to get a new Dell desktop at some point this year, one that will hopefully run SC2 at max or near-max settings.

All of your processor, RAM, etc benchmarks can be met easily using the cheaper Inspiron line; however, all of these come with cheap Intel integrated video cards, with optional "upgrades" that wouldn't give me any choice in picking a graphics card at all and would also require me to buy a bunch of other crap with them. The only other way to get a decent graphics card with the computer is to buy one of their so-called "gaming line," which are way more expensive and come with a bunch of crap I neither need nor want.

So, my question is, if I get, say, a Dell Inspiron 5800 with an i3 processor, 320 gigs of hard drive space, 4 gigs of RAM, and a complimentary "Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD," could I then separately buy a good ATI graphics card (say, the ATI 5770) and upgrade my computer with it? How easy/difficult would this upgrade process be (that is, would it be a simple enough task for me to perform myself without much in the way of expert knowledge)?

I realize this is probably a pretty stupid question, so thanks in advance.


The problem is that those Dell desktops come with a bare minimum power supply, so if you want to add a dedicated video card you are gonna have to change it, and that might be hard or even imposible given Dell's use of custom parts.

Plus, i think that maybe would void you warranty or something.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
March 13 2010 18:08 GMT
#470
If you really want to go through with that Dell plan, I think the only possible way to upgrade to a higher performance graphics card that could run SC2 at max settings properly would be this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131346&cm_re=5750-_-14-131-346-_-Product

However, you're going to be paying a premium for it since it doesn't require any 6 pin connectors.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3110 Posts
March 13 2010 18:20 GMT
#471
Thanks a lot for the info.

Taking my above plan off the table, then, what would you recommend as the cheapest way to buy/build a computer that could run SC2 on near-max to max settings? I realize this is asking a lot, but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
March 13 2010 18:40 GMT
#472
On March 13 2010 17:44 Igottheil wrote:
Fragkrag I've been doing some reseasrch and asking some questions to some physics professors on campus, and they say that the human eye cannot distinguish fps after 30?? Do you think its true?


get a new physics professor

eyes dont see in frames

if you cant notice a difference above 30fps you're blind

air force pilots have been recorded as being able to see things above 500 frames per second.

I used to have a link to the study for that particular piece of info but I lost it years ago
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 18:52:01
March 13 2010 18:51 GMT
#473
On March 14 2010 03:40 Tropics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2010 17:44 Igottheil wrote:
Fragkrag I've been doing some reseasrch and asking some questions to some physics professors on campus, and they say that the human eye cannot distinguish fps after 30?? Do you think its true?


get a new physics professor

eyes dont see in frames

if you cant notice a difference above 30fps you're blind

air force pilots have been recorded as being able to see things above 500 frames per second.

I used to have a link to the study for that particular piece of info but I lost it years ago


I highly doubt that you could tell 30 fps from 50 fps. Or even 50 from 500.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
March 13 2010 18:59 GMT
#474
6 GB Ram And 4.2 GHZ should run this perfectly, all highest settings
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
March 13 2010 19:01 GMT
#475
if you can't tell 30 fps from 50 fps you are blind

actually, entirely blind
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
March 13 2010 19:07 GMT
#476
On March 14 2010 03:59 TriniMasta[wD] wrote:
6 GB Ram And 4.2 GHZ should run this perfectly, all highest settings


Good job excluding the most important part of the system when it comes to running games!
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
HwiiyiG
Profile Joined March 2010
United States25 Posts
March 13 2010 21:11 GMT
#477
On March 13 2010 12:44 Prozen wrote:
Wait, could you explain to me why the Samsung Laptop probably couldn't run SC2 at Ultra but the Asus could? It seems every spec of the Samsung Laptop completely outclasses the Asus. 2.26 GHz i5 > 2.13 GHz Core 2 Duo, GTX 260M < GT 330 M, and 4GB DDR3 RAM > 4GB DDR2 RAM.
@ ReMaDe, could you provide links to those 3 laptops? I am in need of a new machine so I may be interested in buying one of those.


Asus
Samsung
Toshiba

I had some problem getting links to work in an IRC the other day so if it doesn't work, let me know. Or, search for them by model numbers:
Asus Model: G60VX-RBBX05 | SKU: 9556072
Samsung Model: G60VX-RBBX05 | SKU: 9556072
Toshiba Model: A505-S6033 | SKU: 9705203
PerQ
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden48 Posts
March 13 2010 21:44 GMT
#478
I have a 4870 and got around 35 FPS with everything on Ultra and 1920x1080 resulotion.
http://twitter.com/PerKIU
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
March 13 2010 21:56 GMT
#479
CPU: AMD Phenom 9500
GPU: Nvidia 9800GT
Resolution: 1680x1050
RAM: 3GB DDR2
Setting: Everything on UItra, except textures which are on High.

I get 40+ FPS, big battles drop it down to the low 30s.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-13 23:18:07
March 13 2010 23:16 GMT
#480
so guys I've read through the thread but still undecided
could you please recommend me what should I buy in order to run SC2 smoothly at high settings if I have $1000 budget (desktop comp)

I just need Case, Motherboard, CPU, RAM, Video Card, fast HDD and Windows 7 (64 bit or not)?

I hope this comp will be able to run Diablo III on high settings too when it will be released
Pure fan
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