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On August 06 2009 08:17 Spawkuring wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 07:31 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 07:21 Spawkuring wrote:On August 06 2009 07:17 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 06:47 MasterFischer wrote:
Besides... all the hate towards the game development taking so long is not justified. The game ITSELF is finished.. beta state.. and has been for quite some time now.. it is only BNET 2.0 that is givign trouuuuble. So you think taking seven years to develop a game that's not a new IP is reasonable? The life cycle of most operating systems is even less than that... oh and "it's only BNET 2.0 that is giving trouble" misses the point....it has still taken 6 years for them to get to the point where they are working on B.NET 2.0......here's a genius idea: Come up with a new revolutionizing way of paying the game that will be INTEGRAL to it's success, call it battle.net 2.0 and then wait until the rest of the game is done before even starting work on it...GENIUS! I honestly don't consider six years to be a valid number for SC2's dev cycle. As stated by Blizzard, they had to halt SC2 development because WoW turned out to be so big. The actual game itself is more or less being made at the same cycle as any other Blizzard game. Regardless whether they stopped for WoW or not is irrelevant...WoW took just over 4 years to develop, and that was a massive game and a totally new genre for Blizzard....this is a sequel to a known franchise in what is supposed to be Blizzard's bread and butter genre (RTS). Even if you take away that year of lost development you are still looking at a 6 year development time. I have no doubt that the game will be successful, but Blizzard really needs to get its act together....a company known for long game delays is somehow getting WORSE not better. How is it not relevant? Having to put your entire development on hold because an MMO grew to unexpected proportions is definitely relevant. NOBODY expected WoW to grow as big as it did, so in my eyes it's excusable that it's been taking this long.
Umm it's not relevant in the sense that even if you remove the delay caused by WoW you are still looking at a 6 year development time; which as I pointed out, is 50% longer to develop than WoW was. That's how it isn't relevant; because it's still inexcusable either way.
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On August 06 2009 08:38 zx82 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 08:17 Spawkuring wrote:On August 06 2009 07:31 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 07:21 Spawkuring wrote:On August 06 2009 07:17 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 06:47 MasterFischer wrote:
Besides... all the hate towards the game development taking so long is not justified. The game ITSELF is finished.. beta state.. and has been for quite some time now.. it is only BNET 2.0 that is givign trouuuuble. So you think taking seven years to develop a game that's not a new IP is reasonable? The life cycle of most operating systems is even less than that... oh and "it's only BNET 2.0 that is giving trouble" misses the point....it has still taken 6 years for them to get to the point where they are working on B.NET 2.0......here's a genius idea: Come up with a new revolutionizing way of paying the game that will be INTEGRAL to it's success, call it battle.net 2.0 and then wait until the rest of the game is done before even starting work on it...GENIUS! I honestly don't consider six years to be a valid number for SC2's dev cycle. As stated by Blizzard, they had to halt SC2 development because WoW turned out to be so big. The actual game itself is more or less being made at the same cycle as any other Blizzard game. Regardless whether they stopped for WoW or not is irrelevant...WoW took just over 4 years to develop, and that was a massive game and a totally new genre for Blizzard....this is a sequel to a known franchise in what is supposed to be Blizzard's bread and butter genre (RTS). Even if you take away that year of lost development you are still looking at a 6 year development time. I have no doubt that the game will be successful, but Blizzard really needs to get its act together....a company known for long game delays is somehow getting WORSE not better. How is it not relevant? Having to put your entire development on hold because an MMO grew to unexpected proportions is definitely relevant. NOBODY expected WoW to grow as big as it did, so in my eyes it's excusable that it's been taking this long. Umm it's not relevant in the sense that even if you remove the delay caused by WoW you are still looking at a 6 year development time; which as I pointed out, is 50% longer to develop than WoW was. That's how it isn't relevant.
If you remove the delay caused by WoW, then the game would probably be out by now. That's the point I'm making. It's taken 6 years BECAUSE they got side-tracked by other games. If they were full on the game 100% of the time, it'd probably be out.
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aha...
ahahaha!
oh you guys, you got me good! early april fools!
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This is TERRIBLE TERRIBLE news.
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On August 06 2009 08:44 mmgoose wrote:
aha...
ahahaha!
oh you guys, you got me good! early april fools!
I actually googled to see if there was an "april fools"-ish holiday in August.
There isn't.
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someone should make new angry hitler subtitles about this!
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I feel I just got facepalmed.......now I have a chance at B 
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Oh well I least I think I found one positive thing about this situation... Since I'm waiting for SC2 to build my new desktop, the new generation of video cards will be out by then, and not at launch price.
...yay..
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Shit.
I wake up early in the morning and the first thing I saw is this news.
Seriously, 2010? I,m already too old for games by the time SC2 : Wing Of Liberty is out.
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Good news. Now I can take my time to upgrade my PC and playing other games/getting to D+ or C-.
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yeah maybe i'll get a girlfriend before sc2 comes out, right on.
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2010... that gives me a lot more time to build the perfect SC2 rig... thanks Blizz..
everyone should have seen this coming. blizzard's been delaying games to make them perfect, and i hope SC2 doesnt become an exception to that point.
quite frankly, the long dev time's made me lose a bit of interest towards the game, and hopefully all the news from here on out become only good news.
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wait wings of liberty is the first campaign in sc2? what are they all called? This is fuckin stupid. It means that beta wont be ready for like 2-3 more months at least. FUCK YUOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Things Blizzard should do in the meantime:
- Release a single player demo
- Release NaDa vs Moon
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On August 06 2009 08:42 Spawkuring wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 08:38 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 08:17 Spawkuring wrote:On August 06 2009 07:31 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 07:21 Spawkuring wrote:On August 06 2009 07:17 zx82 wrote:On August 06 2009 06:47 MasterFischer wrote:
Besides... all the hate towards the game development taking so long is not justified. The game ITSELF is finished.. beta state.. and has been for quite some time now.. it is only BNET 2.0 that is givign trouuuuble. So you think taking seven years to develop a game that's not a new IP is reasonable? The life cycle of most operating systems is even less than that... oh and "it's only BNET 2.0 that is giving trouble" misses the point....it has still taken 6 years for them to get to the point where they are working on B.NET 2.0......here's a genius idea: Come up with a new revolutionizing way of paying the game that will be INTEGRAL to it's success, call it battle.net 2.0 and then wait until the rest of the game is done before even starting work on it...GENIUS! I honestly don't consider six years to be a valid number for SC2's dev cycle. As stated by Blizzard, they had to halt SC2 development because WoW turned out to be so big. The actual game itself is more or less being made at the same cycle as any other Blizzard game. Regardless whether they stopped for WoW or not is irrelevant...WoW took just over 4 years to develop, and that was a massive game and a totally new genre for Blizzard....this is a sequel to a known franchise in what is supposed to be Blizzard's bread and butter genre (RTS). Even if you take away that year of lost development you are still looking at a 6 year development time. I have no doubt that the game will be successful, but Blizzard really needs to get its act together....a company known for long game delays is somehow getting WORSE not better. How is it not relevant? Having to put your entire development on hold because an MMO grew to unexpected proportions is definitely relevant. NOBODY expected WoW to grow as big as it did, so in my eyes it's excusable that it's been taking this long. Umm it's not relevant in the sense that even if you remove the delay caused by WoW you are still looking at a 6 year development time; which as I pointed out, is 50% longer to develop than WoW was. That's how it isn't relevant. If you remove the delay caused by WoW, then the game would probably be out by now. That's the point I'm making. It's taken 6 years BECAUSE they got side-tracked by other games. If they were full on the game 100% of the time, it'd probably be out.
Allow me to teach you some simple math. The game will be in its SEVENTH game of development when it is released next year. Blizzard admits that it was delayed by 1 year because of WoW; so if only 1 year of the delay is related to WoW, the other SIX are completely unrelated to it. 7-1 = 6. And SIX years of development is still long; longer than WoW or any other game they have developed thus far.
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This means progaming bw will live a little bit longer. yeah
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That news post just did terrible, terrible damage to me.
SAD.
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On August 06 2009 08:31 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 07:42 theron[wdt] wrote:
goddamn horseshit, this shit always happens. and in the meantime, a shitload of WoW stuff will be released. WoW is their money maker now... not that I really understand why anymore. The entire game collapsed after Wrath came out, I no longer understand the draw it has to the masses.
That's a hardcore raider's perspective only. I understand where you're coming from as I was/am exactly the same (top 30 world guild, played from release up until about 2 months into Wrath and quit), however it has appeal to the masses because that is clearly where they now focus.
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Expected I guess...
Now I won't be in Korea when SC2 is released.... FMLLLLL
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