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On April 17 2009 06:50 Phrogs! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 05:26 scwizard wrote: If "terrible terrible damage" isn't a cheat in Starcraft II I'm going to be very upset. lol hahaha Normally when people say lol on the internet they're not actually laughing.. Congratulations, you however made me literally laugh out loud I can really see this happening as a cheat, they say Blizz has TL readers I had to laugh quite hard, too xD
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On April 17 2009 06:43 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:Anyone notice how banelings were not rolling? That made me sad. 
It is possible that Banelings role once they get their speed upgrade. They did something similar with Zergling wings, so it would not suprise me if that was the case.
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Holy?!
u know that space opera thing with Medrines? I had the same feeling with maurines and nighthawks
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oh and btw thank you Blizzard for having released it earlier than announced!! So stop bitching abt how they delay all the time, all of you out there (I was among them... Shht!).
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On April 17 2009 06:59 Smorrie wrote: My 2 cents:
- Watching SC2 on these speeds make the game look boring - The two players both seemed really bad.. but then again I've never played it before so I can't really say anything about it. It seemed to me that they both had really bad micro though, or at least inefficient unit usage - That hunter seeker seems too hardcore, but there probably are good counters against it(?) - Commentary was too exaggerating for sure >.< Especially on this slow speed... But a lot of moves didn't seem THAT great, while the commentators were busting their nuts!
well watching a game on sc1 on fastest speeds will seem boring as well when noobs are playing...
the speed looks fine really, esp when better plyers are playing, i dont think the obs will even catch everything since
80% of acitions can go into micro now since macro is ez...
so there will be nydus worms/dropships/warpins/reper/stalker raids everywere on the map happeneing on the same time in a batl of multitasking, while in thes BR, it was a very linear game without much multitasking, which is what we usually see in low level games. e.g.
the tvz 1 vessel 3 tank push the tvp push
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Great BattleReport. I like the overall state of the game. Gameplay and graphics looks great to me with few exceptions. Nonetheless, I'd like to say what I didn't like that much.
Gameplay: - I don't like the infestor's spawn cheap marines ability. It seems boring to me. - Nighthawks have only 2 abilities right now. I hope it will get a third (probably get its spider mines back). - Banshees moved rather slow. IMHO they should move faster.
Graphics: - Zerglings run animation looks like bunnies hopping. - Overall too much pew pew / flashy effects. Less is more IMHO. Some death animations are too.. spectacular (Reaper, SCV, ..)
Btw anyone noticed that reapers are tier 1.5 now? That's a great change .
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Since most things have been mentioned before I'd just like to quote one of the commentators:
It looks terrible, terrible...
I'm way more hyped for D3 now than SC2
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yea the zerglings look like they lazily hop around when they are moving slowly, in my opinion the running animation when they aren't fast (not sure if there is an upgrade for ling speed, but creep makes them fast) should be more of a four legged run and then change to the hopping when they pass a certain threshold.
I still hate seeing circular clumps of units engaging....that sucks... but I don't really know enough about the pathing in this game or the feel of unit control in SC2 so I cant really offer a solution or idea. Micro seems to be hurting.
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the zerg player would have won if he would have actually microed his roaches when those reaper mines were underneath them.
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I'm kinda disappointed considering the time we had to wait for the report Awaited at least an epic 35+ minute game. Nevertheless fun to watch :D
By the way, at http://www.starcraft-2-mecca.de you can stream the battlereport in HD and download it without the blizzard downloader.
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On April 17 2009 05:27 Hammy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2009 04:58 Daniri wrote:On April 17 2009 04:12 Klive5ive wrote:On April 17 2009 04:07 AdunToridas wrote: I thought they would include the new infestor model... Oh it does make a brief appearance. It looks pretty hilarious. For a start it's MASSIVE compared to other Zerg units and it has this huge shiny ass. That wasn't the new model. Well it wasn't the old one : )
It was actually.
The new one will look like this: http://sc2pod.com/w/images/6/6f/InfestorArt2.jpg
The old one, and the one in this battle report, looks like: http://sc2pod.com/w/images/1/1b/Infestor.jpg
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The zerg 2nd Expo got cancelled. There is no way 2 unit can kill a hatch so fast... Even the commentator had to rephrase himself, coz the zerg player cancelled it a little too soon than it was expected.
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also, blue hydras look very weird -_-;;
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I don't understand why they don't get Koreans to do these battle reports. Watching Yellow play SCII was much more interesting. He actually got a large army, microed his shit etc.
The attempted collosus harasses was painful to watch though, because it was obvious how incredibly weak the units were. I'd like to see what they can do now that they don't suck.
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On April 17 2009 06:30 FrozenArbiter wrote:Banelings are soooooooooooooooooo cute omg :D God, so hard to decide which race to play  So much abuse potential with all races! EDIT: The ling movement animation neeeeeeeeeeeds to be changed, jesus ;p EDIT2: I wish they'd select buildings/units being attacked, makes it easier to follow. Also, did those banshees KILL the hatchery that fast?? Or did he cancel? If you watch very closely, I think you can see the hatchery cancel and then the drone attempts to burrow.
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I was a little disheartened when i found out that zerg anti air was lacking in this build, and then see banshees and nighthawks turn the tide of battle. I'm very optimistic though about banling use and after seeing roaches in action I'm looking forward to them more. I like the new queen as well. very zergish. And the new creep isn't distracting at all.
would also have liked a better understanding of how the watchtowers provide sight, the short amount of time they were there didn't really give a good feel as to how much range we could see.
Also, maybe the next BR should be TvT so we can see a terran lose(i kid... i kid...)
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On April 17 2009 07:54 scwizard wrote: I don't understand why they don't get Koreans to do these battle reports. Watching Yellow play SCII was much more interesting. He actually got a large army, microed his shit etc.
The attempted collosus harasses was painful to watch though, because it was obvious how incredibly weak the units were. I'd like to see what they can do now that they don't suck. I had to quote this, it's so true. That Yellow's game was 87489673x better to watch than this battle reports. So much more exciting and fun. If only it had the technical analysis from blizz devs like the battle reports do, it would be perfect.
These Blizzard guys play are absolutely horrible don't know if you guys noticed but they barely build enough workers + have mbs + automine and they STILL managed to save 2k minerals (the terran) and 2.5k gas (the zerg). I didn't think it was possible for someone to be worse on a RTS then me, but those blizz guys succeeded lol
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Well, the way banelings were micro'd here makes me suspect that the Zerg player doesn't use hotkeys. But it's still fine.
Yeah, I wish they would use Yellow, but he can't take time out of his busy practice schedule. : )
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That was pretty entertaining to watch. There was a lot of action throughout the game.
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those guys are such noobs, not that i would do better but come on, they MUST have better players in blizzard.
all in all zerg had such TERRIBLE macro it was appalling. I cringed when i heard ling speed being upgraded at 14 minutes.
a 22 minute TvZ without siege tanks or lurkers is just wrong..
the commentators completely missed the scouting of the expansion that led to the banshees forcing a cancel on hatch. they actually tried to play it off as a lucky break...
all in all the game looks great, techs are interesting, and I can see everything pretty clearly.
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