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On February 28 2009 06:20 inReacH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2009 04:57 Hawk wrote:On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote:On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? God.. of course people still get into poker but what I mentioned does happen in poker, people are more hesitant because of how developed the game has become and how much more difficult it is online than it used to be. All I said was this kind of thinking will have an effect, not that it would mean no new players would be entering the competitive scene. Why are you taking one mild and obvious thing that I said and implying that I'm making this huge, broad ridiculous statement?
Because it's wrong? Because you're an idiot? Because the concept that you're pushing from the start is stupid as shit?
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On February 28 2009 06:20 inReacH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2009 04:57 Hawk wrote:On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote:On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? God.. of course people still get into poker but what I mentioned does happen in poker, people are more hesitant because of how developed the game has become and how much more difficult it is online than it used to be. All I said was this kind of thinking will have an effect, not that it would mean no new players would be entering the competitive scene. Why are you taking one mild and obvious thing that I said and implying that I'm making this huge, broad ridiculous statement? The poker example is not bad I don't think, although there's a key difference here: Poker was MORE profitable in the past (or perhaps I should say, it was easier to make a good bit of money, the absolute top money might have been less) where as for SC (and SC2) the opposite is probably gonna hold true.. The more the scene develops, the better for anyone looking to play competitively..
Making money in Poker in 2001 as compared to now: Easier Making money in SC in 2001 as compared to now: Harder.
I belong in the camp that thinks as many of the top SC and WC3 players should be given keys, I don't think the deterrent would be that big - you wouldn't even have to come out and say anything about it, just do it.
On February 28 2009 06:52 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2009 06:20 inReacH wrote:On February 28 2009 04:57 Hawk wrote:On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote:On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? God.. of course people still get into poker but what I mentioned does happen in poker, people are more hesitant because of how developed the game has become and how much more difficult it is online than it used to be. All I said was this kind of thinking will have an effect, not that it would mean no new players would be entering the competitive scene. Why are you taking one mild and obvious thing that I said and implying that I'm making this huge, broad ridiculous statement? Because it's wrong? Because you're an idiot? Because the concept that you're pushing from the start is stupid as shit? -_- Sigh. This can lead only one place, refrain from the whole "you're an idiot" routine if you want to argue.
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On February 28 2009 06:57 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2009 06:20 inReacH wrote:On February 28 2009 04:57 Hawk wrote:On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote:On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? God.. of course people still get into poker but what I mentioned does happen in poker, people are more hesitant because of how developed the game has become and how much more difficult it is online than it used to be. All I said was this kind of thinking will have an effect, not that it would mean no new players would be entering the competitive scene. Why are you taking one mild and obvious thing that I said and implying that I'm making this huge, broad ridiculous statement? The poker example is not bad I don't think, although there's a key difference here: Poker was MORE profitable in the past (or perhaps I should say, it was easier to make a good bit of money, the absolute top money might have been less) where as for SC (and SC2) the opposite is probably gonna hold true.. The more the scene develops, the better for anyone looking to play competitively.. Making money in Poker in 2001 as compared to now: Easier Making money in SC in 2001 as compared to now: Harder. I belong in the camp that thinks as many of the top SC and WC3 players should be given keys, I don't think the deterrent would be that big - you wouldn't even have to come out and say anything about it, just do it. Show nested quote +On February 28 2009 06:52 Hawk wrote:On February 28 2009 06:20 inReacH wrote:On February 28 2009 04:57 Hawk wrote:On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote:On February 26 2009 16:18 IdrA wrote: no its not that theyre sandy vaginas anyone who thinks theyre too far behind cuz of 3 months of beta testing is fucking retarded, and fucking retarded people dont tend to be very valuable for anything. Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? God.. of course people still get into poker but what I mentioned does happen in poker, people are more hesitant because of how developed the game has become and how much more difficult it is online than it used to be. All I said was this kind of thinking will have an effect, not that it would mean no new players would be entering the competitive scene. Why are you taking one mild and obvious thing that I said and implying that I'm making this huge, broad ridiculous statement? Because it's wrong? Because you're an idiot? Because the concept that you're pushing from the start is stupid as shit? -_- Sigh. This can lead only one place, refrain from the whole "you're an idiot" routine if you want to argue.
Like I said in a previous post, I may be overestimating how large an impact it could have.. I guess I just don't feel it's that necessary to have that aspect of the game pushed so hard before release especially when it may have several negative implications. SC2 has a long future in front of it and I just want the community to be as big as possible. The things that have happened with BW in the last 10 years are really exciting and I'm looking forward to the compounding effect SC2 is going to bring.
Btw FA, really nice to talk to you lol <3
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how did þoker come into this>?
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"Still, none of them except the press and progamers did not get any special treatment."
"Nothing off about it. They got access to alpha (and more of it). No reason to believe that it will be any different in beta. "
Where have I ever said Blizzard policies regarding progamers will change in beta?!
All I said was that they did not really get any special treatment. They were among a pretty large group of people which had an "unlimited" access to alpha: progamers, commentators (and some people otherwise associated with esports in Korea), press, some/many fansite staff members, people at DreamHack and even probably those ESL events...
All I'm saying is that progamers weren't actually singled out if you take into account that plenty of other people were treated the same way - not that they won't get into beta...
I was also worried that you might've been one of those people who believe Blizzard had hired progamers to test the game from the early stages, based on their badly worded statements (Pillars and David Kim are hardly progamers in the moder meaning of the word). But apparently it's not the case, so whatever.
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