EPTand for anyone who didnt catch that,
inreach=incapable of rational discussion
go back to practicing war3 so you can own up sc2.
BW ladder for SC2 betakEE? - Page 4
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
and for anyone who didnt catch that, inreach=incapable of rational discussion go back to practicing war3 so you can own up sc2. | ||
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
And I do remember more than one person laughing at your "If I make one too many bunkers I autolose" analysis. No one needed to discredit your quotes further because rekrul did it perfectly in the OP. Has the thought even crossed your mind once that maybe, just maybe, rekrul is almost perfectly on point with his thoughts on your conduct? Is he an idiot piece of shit too like everyone else? | ||
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ffswowsucks
Greece2291 Posts
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
On February 26 2009 18:34 ffswowsucks wrote: I dont understand why this thread is linked to F91 match Vs IdrA. This is about sc2 not about IdrA or inReacH... and inReacH what u write is obvious I dont think we need to discuss this more...30 pages! forget it already. Yes, you are right. My apologies. (not sarcasm) | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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PhorClayton
United States198 Posts
Also, considering that Starcraft II won't reach some sort of 'finality' in the first year, or second, or even third, makes a 3-month beta testing key pointless to discuss. There are many things that could be analyzed about how Blizzard is proceeding, but it's not productive whining about every little insignificunt detail. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Only a tiny fraction of users will have a beta key. It's always been like that and it always will be like that. Deal rofl. | ||
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PhorClayton
United States198 Posts
I guess the size of my penis isn't based on whether or not I beta tested SC2. | ||
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jingXD
United States283 Posts
So the problems with an open ladder are: 1) hackers/abusers 2) foreigners don't stand a chance 3) massive number of players That said, I do like the idea of some official large tournament for keys that involves the community. Perhaps Blizzard could allocate a "pot" of 1000 beta keys and organize a tournament between the different communities (Sandlot style) and award more keys to communities that do well in the tournament. This would still fuel the hype machine while involving the community and if the tournament were offline, the hacking/abuse problem would be mitigated. Also, Blizzard could restrict how many communities per country can enter so that koreans don't just win all the keys. Finally, it prevents sc2bestfriends.com from taking away precious keys from teamliquid.  Just to throw out some more ideas: Before the offline final tournament, Blizzard could have elimination style tournaments to determine which communities make it to the final tournament. These could be streamed live Liquibition/TLA/TSL style. If it were official and casted well, I think that it would introduce high-level SC play to people who haven't been following SC's evolution and find pro-gaming a bit daunting (You could be this gosu too! Just buy our game and play it a lot!). | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
By the way, the average Blizzard beta lasts roughly 4 months. Considering how much is at stake with StarCraft II, I would not be suprised if the beta would last even longer. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5363 Posts
Not saying progamers won't get the keys but you're reasoning is a bit off, imo.  (I hope you're not one of those who believe Blizzard hired (ex-)progamers as testers.)Also, I thought WC3 beta lasted 5-6 months. ;; | ||
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Puosu
6983 Posts
On February 28 2009 03:26 maybenexttime wrote: Well, they allowed random WoW addicts access the game in alpha too. T____T Not saying progamers won't get the keys but you're reasoning is a bit off, imo. (I hope you're not one of those who believe Blizzard hired (ex-)progamers as testers.)Also, I thought WC3 beta lasted 5-6 months. ;; They held a special event for progamers in Korea to test the game and give their opinions on the current build, I believe that is what he means. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5363 Posts
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omninmo
2349 Posts
of course progamers will get keys. duh. that is not this thread's focus. pros play SC they do not beta test for bugs. end of discussion. over. they will have beta keys for fun and to test. some will do serious testing. like b teamers and maybe one high profile veteran like will spend sometime delivering feedback but that is irrelevant. this idea is not about setting up the most perfect beta test possible. its about public relations, epicness, community, and giving BW a proper farewell (internationally, that is. BW will stick around korea for sometime). | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32026 Posts
On February 26 2009 16:27 inReacH wrote: Dude.. no.. You say that because you know and have many examples of that kind of thing being overcome all around you all the time. You don't have to be so critical to people for misjudging something that is so obvious to you. Have you ever heard people talking about missing the boat on poker and that's why they aren't interested? Well it's the same thing, yes it could be overcome but it's a certain degree harder and everyone's threshold is somewhere. I agree with you that it's dumb to think that way but that doesn't make them retarded or reduce the validity of their potential competitive goals. Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
On February 28 2009 02:11 MiniRoman wrote: I highly doubt inreach started playing BW when it first came out anyways and here heis arguing about the difficulty of competitive gaming. You probably got into BW 6 or 7 years too late anyways and you were able to deliciously eat up rep after rep and vods of polished gameplay. Consider yourself lucky Only a tiny fraction of users will have a beta key. It's always been like that and it always will be like that. Deal rofl. Um not only do I have a beta key, you are agreeing with me. | ||
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
On February 28 2009 04:57 Hawk wrote: Yes, because no one is getting into poker anymore because it's so difficult and there's not different limits and skill levels that separate players. How the hell do you manage to be wrong about everything that you post on this website?? God.. of course people still get into poker but what I mentioned does happen in poker, people are more hesitant because of how developed the game has become and how much more difficult it is online than it used to be. All I said was this kind of thinking will have an effect, not that it would mean no new players would be entering the competitive scene. Why are you taking one mild and obvious thing that I said and implying that I'm making this huge, broad ridiculous statement? | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On February 28 2009 03:26 maybenexttime wrote: Well, they allowed random WoW addicts access the game in alpha too. T____T Yes, but progamers were still able to test the game much longer then your average fan, who usually got half an hour. Plus, as mentioned before, they also had more ocassions to try the game. Plus, what does the fact that WoW players were allowed to try the game have to do with anything? Considering the large demographic of WoW players, it would honestly suprise me if not even one of them had some experience in RTS gaming. Besides, StarCraft, Diablo and *faked gasp* even WarCraft III players were allowed to try the game. Still, none of them except the press and progamers did not get any special treatment. Lastly, who is more fitting to test the effectiveness of new macro mechanics then *drumroll* progamers? Not saying progamers won't get the keys but you're reasoning is a bit off, imo. Nothing off about it. They got access to alpha (and more of it). No reason to believe that it will be any different in beta. (I hope you're not one of those who believe Blizzard hired (ex-)progamers as testers.) Personally, I believe they are currently just testing the game among themselves. Whether or not Blizzard employs any ex-progamers (testers or otherwise) I have no idea. But it would be nice if they hired  GARIMTO (who also dabbles in game design, if I recall correctly from his interview).Also, I thought WC3 beta lasted 5-6 months. ;; And you would be correct. The WarCraft III beta lasted 5 months. My point was that the average Blizzard beta lasts around 4 months. Obviously there have been deviations from that. For example, the longest Blizzard beta was the WoW beta which lasted for 9 months. | ||
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