On February 16 2009 13:54 d.arkive wrote:
Don't be so hard on Blizzard -_-. It's a lot easier to do art when the concept is already in place for you...

This.

Ozarugold

2716 Posts

February 16 2009 05:13 GMT

#22

They look like they've been injected with steroids or something. Even the Drone looks like it could go toe to toe with a Mothership.

The Hydralisk is by far the baddass-est of them all~

Savio

United States1850 Posts

February 16 2009 05:20 GMT

#23

On February 16 2009 10:23 SilverskY wrote:
That is the scariest drone I've ever seen. All the pictures are fucking sick.

LoL, at first I thought that drone was a redone swarm guardian. It is pretty sick

This is some of the best concept art I have seen for the game. Mr. Jack is the man.

XDawn

Canada4040 Posts

February 16 2009 05:22 GMT

#24

That badass picture of a hydra made me think
"Holy shit. To think Terran can actually killl that mother fucking badass, tankin, acid-spitting son of a gun."

Alizee-

United States845 Posts

February 16 2009 05:27 GMT

#25

Mr. Jack's work--very impressive. No doubt, but be realistic. Samwise and co have to come up with the idea from nowhere, but their imagination and then put it onto paper. Mr. Jack has the luxury of having to worry very little about creativity and more about tweaking to make what he feels is better. Its like cars, no doubt what they do with cars are amazing, but coming up with the idea of a car in the first is the amazing thing.

Savio

United States1850 Posts

February 16 2009 05:31 GMT

#26

Actually regarding the comparisons, I think some of the "Blizzard pics" weren't designed to be compared to these pictures. I don't know exactly how they work but I do know that artists guide the graphics programmers so it could be that some of the "cartoonish" pics that were listed in this thread were done with lower detail so they could be easier to program out the CG look.

I mean does this look cartoony:

But this probably isn't designed for programmers to be able to use directly to make a unit model.

So there is art that is designed to look awesome, and then there is art that is for the purposes of programming. It may be that this is what is causing the blizz pics that were chosen in this thread to look so cartoony.

I mean compare that DT pic to this one. Obviously Blizz CAN do good artwork but don't always try to go for the highest detail...depends on the purpose of the art.

But, yes. Mr. Jack is good enough that I think Blizz should try to hire him. He would be a very good addition.

HyoSang

United States194 Posts

February 16 2009 05:50 GMT

#27

Now if we could only find someone as talented in game mechanics to help blizzard out..

Spawkuring

United States755 Posts

February 16 2009 06:12 GMT

#28

It's rather unfair of you guys to compare Blizzard's concept art to artwork designed to be pretty. Concept art is low detail on purpose so that it's easier for the programmers to model and animate the art. It's also rather hard to create an ultra-cool artwork from scratch when coming up with new ideas. Obviously MrJack's artwork is going to be better because his art's purpose is to look as detailed as possible, in addition to having the idea already in place.

That being said, MrJack is definitely an amazing artist, and I wouldn't mind it in the least if Blizzard hired him.

BlizzardTevez

33 Posts

February 16 2009 06:22 GMT

#29

On February 16 2009 14:08 IntoTheWow wrote:

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This.

This tripled!
Though Jack is a very good artist and I wouldn't mind seeing him getting a job at blizzard!

Archerofaiur

United States4101 Posts

February 16 2009 06:24 GMT

#30

On February 16 2009 15:12 Spawkuring wrote:
It's rather unfair of you guys to compare Blizzard's concept art to artwork designed to be pretty. Concept art is low detail on purpose so that it's easier for the programmers to model and animate the art. It's also rather hard to create an ultra-cool artwork from scratch when coming up with new ideas. Obviously MrJack's artwork is going to be better because his art's purpose is to look as detailed as possible, in addition to having the idea already in place.

That being said, MrJack is definitely an amazing artist, and I wouldn't mind it in the least if Blizzard hired him.

We are merely commenting on which version we like better. We know that concept art is not produced for the same purposes as "pretty" art. However, we are still free to voice which style of artwork we are more drawn too.

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

February 16 2009 06:30 GMT

#31

The pictures are super awesome and all, but in his effort of trying to inject awesomeness into the zerg I feel Mr Jack has lost track of what the zerg is. They are an alien, insectoid race. What he has drawn are hellspawned helldemons of hellfire, From Hell. They look like they could goddamn kill you, and goddamn kill you well, but they they don't really come off as hive mind insects anymore imo.

It's like someone injected tordenkakkerlakk or whatever that thing was from spiderman into the starcraft universe. Lemme see if I can find a picture... OK here we go

That's one of it's last mutations. Super awesome, but the zerg aren't evil, they are just insects.

Edit: and yes, the current Infestor model has the same problem. Stay good Blizzard, don't lose your way!

BlizzardTevez

33 Posts

February 16 2009 06:32 GMT

#32

and

So its not like black and white

Depending on the need of the art it may be of higher quality or lower.
And also some of those artworks are very old, maybe even 3 years, so I'm pretty sure the art quality has significantly improved these days, after the cartoony outcry at the SC2 unveiling in Korea!

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

February 16 2009 06:43 GMT

#33

Excellent art! I'm really impressed.

Carnivorous Sheep

Baa?21248 Posts

February 16 2009 06:57 GMT

#34

On February 16 2009 11:17 CommanderFluffy wrote:
dude that drone looks so buff, it probably has 60 hp

This.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

February 16 2009 07:01 GMT

#35

DAYUM those are amazing dude!

That hydralisk is gorgeous.

-orb-

United States5770 Posts

February 16 2009 07:04 GMT

#36

On February 16 2009 13:31 Archerofaiur wrote:
Some more comparisons

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Versus

Now don't get me wrong. I think Samwise is a talented artist. But from now on when I think zergling it is going to be Mr. Jacks version.

Wowwwwwww this says it all. Mr.Jack needs to be hired by blizzard asap

InRaged

1047 Posts

February 16 2009 08:50 GMT

#37

On February 16 2009 15:24 Archerofaiur wrote:

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No you aren't free to voice your opinion when you don't understand that pictures have different purpose. And you clearly don't understand that, otherwise you wouldn't bring up these comparisons with such negative tone.

On February 16 2009 09:58 Archerofaiur wrote:
LOL no contest

On February 16 2009 10:20 keit wrote:
Maybe Blizzard should take after this guy and graduate kindergarten before trying to make artwork, I mean what the fuck is this Cartoon Network shit? (Referring to the comparison above.)

These quotes above are not "merely commenting". That's unwarranted hatred.

pindleskin

New Zealand199 Posts

February 16 2009 10:28 GMT

#38

actually ermmm samwise is the man

but mr jack's look nice too

Bash

Finland1533 Posts

February 16 2009 10:36 GMT

#39

Everything else is superawesome and whatnot but Samwise's zergling is easily better. The one Jack made is to me way too complicated (in an un-aerodynamic way) and heavy-built to be this fast as fuck little scurrying motherfucker who will tear your face off if you let it get close enough.

hymn

Bulgaria832 Posts

February 16 2009 10:44 GMT

#40

From what I see here MrJack got the Blizzard pictures and just made more details. He also has added more color layers and strengthened the spines/teeth/pinnacles. Yes, his pics look more scary than Samwise's. But if someone's seriously thinking that Samwise can't tweak the pictures he drew in a similar to MrJack's way... Well, he's just ignorant ot stupid ot whatever.

Yet MrJack's pictures cannot be rendered with such detail in the game. So they are purely for... I don't know. To hipe the crowd I guess. While from the simpler Samwise drawings the designers can make 3D objects and animate their movements, attack and everything.

I've made some drawings myself and it's far easier just to look at something and then draw it on the sheet than it is to "create" the image in your mind and then draw it. And it's even easier to just take a drawing or a shape of a zergling and then expand a pinnacle here, add color there, add some bigger teeth, change the eyes a bit and there you go - you got a ling that scares the people.

Samwise is much more admirable here IMO.

By all that I don't mean to say that MrJack lacks drawing talent and would be a bad addition to the Blizzard art team. But people are just giving him too much credit which I think is wrong,