The thing I love about the starcraft community is that even if we don't have Starcraft.com updates we just make our own. I think everyone should get more involved in community wide projects. The macro contest was a good start but there is tons of others stuff we can do. Let us know if you have any good ideas!
Maybe Blizzard should take after this guy and graduate kindergarten before trying to make artwork, I mean what the fuck is this Cartoon Network shit? (Referring to the comparison above.)
Other than the zergling I'm with everyone else in saying this is some really badass art he's doing. If I were working at Blizzard I would seriously fire the art department and set this guy in place of it.
On February 16 2009 10:20 keit wrote: Maybe Blizzard should take after this guy and graduate kindergarten before trying to make artwork, I mean what the fuck is this Cartoon Network shit? (Referring to the comparison above.)
Have you ever been up in the morning to watch Cartoon Network. That transformers cartoon makes me cringe.
i think their artist Samwise or w/e should be ashamed of themselves for drawing cartoons all day while non-professional fan talent just ate them alive.
i mean that infestor vs infestor pick says it all. i actually like the wings on the zergling in that picture as oppose to blizzard's
I think Samwise is a really good artist but Blizzard should just hire Mr. Jack for his Zerg concepts. It just has the perfect disgusting and scary look.
Well, I gotta admit, the concept art for SC2 has been overly cartoonish, I fear samwise has spent so much time drawing for wc that he cant do any non cartonish art anymore
On February 16 2009 13:54 d.arkive wrote: Don't be so hard on Blizzard -_-. It's a lot easier to do art when the concept is already in place for you...
That badass picture of a hydra made me think "Holy shit. To think Terran can actually killl that mother fucking badass, tankin, acid-spitting son of a gun."
Mr. Jack's work--very impressive. No doubt, but be realistic. Samwise and co have to come up with the idea from nowhere, but their imagination and then put it onto paper. Mr. Jack has the luxury of having to worry very little about creativity and more about tweaking to make what he feels is better. Its like cars, no doubt what they do with cars are amazing, but coming up with the idea of a car in the first is the amazing thing.
Actually regarding the comparisons, I think some of the "Blizzard pics" weren't designed to be compared to these pictures. I don't know exactly how they work but I do know that artists guide the graphics programmers so it could be that some of the "cartoonish" pics that were listed in this thread were done with lower detail so they could be easier to program out the CG look.
I mean does this look cartoony:
But this probably isn't designed for programmers to be able to use directly to make a unit model.
So there is art that is designed to look awesome, and then there is art that is for the purposes of programming. It may be that this is what is causing the blizz pics that were chosen in this thread to look so cartoony.
I mean compare that DT pic to this one. Obviously Blizz CAN do good artwork but don't always try to go for the highest detail...depends on the purpose of the art.
But, yes. Mr. Jack is good enough that I think Blizz should try to hire him. He would be a very good addition.
It's rather unfair of you guys to compare Blizzard's concept art to artwork designed to be pretty. Concept art is low detail on purpose so that it's easier for the programmers to model and animate the art. It's also rather hard to create an ultra-cool artwork from scratch when coming up with new ideas. Obviously MrJack's artwork is going to be better because his art's purpose is to look as detailed as possible, in addition to having the idea already in place.
That being said, MrJack is definitely an amazing artist, and I wouldn't mind it in the least if Blizzard hired him.
On February 16 2009 13:54 d.arkive wrote: Don't be so hard on Blizzard -_-. It's a lot easier to do art when the concept is already in place for you...
This.
This tripled! Though Jack is a very good artist and I wouldn't mind seeing him getting a job at blizzard!
On February 16 2009 15:12 Spawkuring wrote: It's rather unfair of you guys to compare Blizzard's concept art to artwork designed to be pretty. Concept art is low detail on purpose so that it's easier for the programmers to model and animate the art. It's also rather hard to create an ultra-cool artwork from scratch when coming up with new ideas. Obviously MrJack's artwork is going to be better because his art's purpose is to look as detailed as possible, in addition to having the idea already in place.
That being said, MrJack is definitely an amazing artist, and I wouldn't mind it in the least if Blizzard hired him.
We are merely commenting on which version we like better. We know that concept art is not produced for the same purposes as "pretty" art. However, we are still free to voice which style of artwork we are more drawn too.
The pictures are super awesome and all, but in his effort of trying to inject awesomeness into the zerg I feel Mr Jack has lost track of what the zerg is. They are an alien, insectoid race. What he has drawn are hellspawned helldemons of hellfire, From Hell. They look like they could goddamn kill you, and goddamn kill you well, but they they don't really come off as hive mind insects anymore imo.
It's like someone injected tordenkakkerlakk or whatever that thing was from spiderman into the starcraft universe. Lemme see if I can find a picture... OK here we go
That's one of it's last mutations. Super awesome, but the zerg aren't evil, they are just insects.
Edit: and yes, the current Infestor model has the same problem. Stay good Blizzard, don't lose your way!
Depending on the need of the art it may be of higher quality or lower. And also some of those artworks are very old, maybe even 3 years, so I'm pretty sure the art quality has significantly improved these days, after the cartoony outcry at the SC2 unveiling in Korea!
On February 16 2009 15:12 Spawkuring wrote: It's rather unfair of you guys to compare Blizzard's concept art to artwork designed to be pretty. Concept art is low detail on purpose so that it's easier for the programmers to model and animate the art. It's also rather hard to create an ultra-cool artwork from scratch when coming up with new ideas. Obviously MrJack's artwork is going to be better because his art's purpose is to look as detailed as possible, in addition to having the idea already in place.
That being said, MrJack is definitely an amazing artist, and I wouldn't mind it in the least if Blizzard hired him.
We are merely commenting on which version we like better. We know that concept art is not produced for the same purposes as "pretty" art. However, we are still free to voice which style of artwork we are more drawn too.
No you aren't free to voice your opinion when you don't understand that pictures have different purpose. And you clearly don't understand that, otherwise you wouldn't bring up these comparisons with such negative tone.
On February 16 2009 09:58 Archerofaiur wrote: LOL no contest
On February 16 2009 10:20 keit wrote: Maybe Blizzard should take after this guy and graduate kindergarten before trying to make artwork, I mean what the fuck is this Cartoon Network shit? (Referring to the comparison above.)
These quotes above are not "merely commenting". That's unwarranted hatred.
Everything else is superawesome and whatnot but Samwise's zergling is easily better. The one Jack made is to me way too complicated (in an un-aerodynamic way) and heavy-built to be this fast as fuck little scurrying motherfucker who will tear your face off if you let it get close enough.
From what I see here MrJack got the Blizzard pictures and just made more details. He also has added more color layers and strengthened the spines/teeth/pinnacles. Yes, his pics look more scary than Samwise's. But if someone's seriously thinking that Samwise can't tweak the pictures he drew in a similar to MrJack's way... Well, he's just ignorant ot stupid ot whatever.
Yet MrJack's pictures cannot be rendered with such detail in the game. So they are purely for... I don't know. To hipe the crowd I guess. While from the simpler Samwise drawings the designers can make 3D objects and animate their movements, attack and everything.
I've made some drawings myself and it's far easier just to look at something and then draw it on the sheet than it is to "create" the image in your mind and then draw it. And it's even easier to just take a drawing or a shape of a zergling and then expand a pinnacle here, add color there, add some bigger teeth, change the eyes a bit and there you go - you got a ling that scares the people.
Samwise is much more admirable here IMO.
By all that I don't mean to say that MrJack lacks drawing talent and would be a bad addition to the Blizzard art team. But people are just giving him too much credit which I think is wrong,
On February 16 2009 15:30 Osmoses wrote: The pictures are super awesome and all, but in his effort of trying to inject awesomeness into the zerg I feel Mr Jack has lost track of what the zerg is. They are an alien, insectoid race. What he has drawn are hellspawned helldemons of hellfire, From Hell. They look like they could goddamn kill you, and goddamn kill you well, but they they don't really come off as hive mind insects anymore imo.
It's like someone injected tordenkakkerlakk or whatever that thing was from spiderman into the starcraft universe. Lemme see if I can find a picture... OK here we go
That's one of it's last mutations. Super awesome, but the zerg aren't evil, they are just insects.
Edit: and yes, the current Infestor model has the same problem. Stay good Blizzard, don't lose your way!
On February 16 2009 13:54 d.arkive wrote: Don't be so hard on Blizzard -_-. It's a lot easier to do art when the concept is already in place for you...
Quoted for truth.
I don't get why do people always pick a side and go with it.
MrJack's pictures are FREAKIN AWESOME, I agree, but people who think that Samwise couldn't do the same are a bit naive. Yes, Samwise's pictures are cartoony, but they are made for the game, not for the purpose of being cool.
It's a lot easier to just tweak the concept by adding sharper objects, more layers, deeper colors and stuff.
They are overcomplicated and not really believable. Too many teeth, fangs, spikes and thorns in random places.
Also, as someone noted, they are too heavy-built to be fast and agile. The drone also doesn't look like a weak, almost defenseless worker unit like it should.
On February 16 2009 13:54 d.arkive wrote: Don't be so hard on Blizzard -_-. It's a lot easier to do art when the concept is already in place for you...
This.. also I think SamWise Zergling is way better.. at least for me. But really freaking awesome artwork by Mr Jack. Larvas looking naaaasty!
No you aren't free to voice your opinion when you don't understand that pictures have different purpose. And you clearly don't understand that, otherwise you wouldn't bring up these comparisons with such negative tone.
What negative tone? I said I perfer Mr Jacks zergling to samwise's. I am fascinated by biology and Mrjack's attention to anatomic detail is outstanding. You may not feel the same way and thats fine. See thats the funny thing about art. Its all in the eye of the beholder. You also don't need to defend Blizzards art style. They have numourous blockbuster games to back up there prowess. Most posters in this thread think that blizzard's art is great, myself included. And almost everyone here agrees that MrJack has incredible talent.
Well according to SCLegacy, Blizzard actually did like his work but were unable to hire him due a lack of available positions in the art department. A shame considering he's very talented.
seriously, Samwise is at least 100 times better than this guy. After watching those guy's stuff for more than 5 min my eyes are starting to bleed. Not that he is not talented in some way but I miss the esthetic and the hole idea of art behind it. its too cartoony and too messy for me. but thats just me ofc
as for the "drone" picture, i couldn't tell what it was supposed to be but figured it was an alternate replacement of the defiler.
as for the very first picture, it looks freaking pathetic. look at those claw arms they're like twig sized man! supposed to be antennae? is he a ground type overlord or something? more like an underlord, eh?
that said, pretty much ALL of sam's pictures look MUCH MUCH BETTER.
the only pictures this mr. jack did that even look good are the little "larva" pictures and the "defiler alternate" picture...it would make a terrible drone, it looks absolutely nothing like a drone...but it does look interesting. and the larva don't look much like larva either, but that's cool, like he made completely different units. i guess he was going for that with the very first picture but that picture is pathetic, like i said.
the hydralisk is interesting but comparing it to sam's picture, it's nothing special. and gorgeous? you mean you want to kiss that hydralisk? you're such a freak. that hydralisk is really disgusting, honestly. and i agree with others who said that sam's zergling picture is much better. this mr. jack guy is an amateur and you can tell it by certain areas of some of the drawings where he drew things at the wrong angles...most notably hydralisk and zergling claws.
about the things that look lke larva or whatever, they're cool except for the part where they don't look like larva because they don't look like they have a lot of armor like the larva does. but they're cool besides that. and they don't really need to look like larva they could be some new imaginary unit just like the unit that looks even less like a drone and looks more like an alternate replacement for the defiler. i don't want to sound too picky but the larva looks good and so does that droney/defilery unit but other than that, good effort but they look like crap pictures except for the first picture which is megacrap.
the pictures are great. I would not like to compare them with ones by bliz's cauze they were done a long time ago and it's always hard to do smthing first (read: much easier to improve smth than create it from scratch).
On February 17 2009 04:19 dcttr66 wrote: as for the "drone" picture, i couldn't tell what it was supposed to be but figured it was an alternate replacement of the defiler.
On February 16 2009 19:36 Bash wrote: Everything else is superawesome and whatnot but Samwise's zergling is easily better. The one Jack made is to me way too complicated (in an un-aerodynamic way) and heavy-built to be this fast as fuck little scurrying motherfucker who will tear your face off if you let it get close enough.
On February 16 2009 21:35 CharlieMurphy wrote: The best one in there is the larva imo. He fucking made larva look cool.
Are you serious? The one on the right is actually turning into and egg too, so fucking sick.
QFT. I hope Blizz makes the larva kind of slimy like in Jack's picture. Who would have thought that a larva could look awesome?
EDIT: One thing that hasn't been emphasized enough yet, is that even though most of Mr. Jack's artwork is just adding detail to units already fleshed out, that is NOT true for his version of the infestor. He took the idea of the infestor and did MAJOR revisions to it and in my opinion took an ugly unit (not because of detail but because of design), and made it awesome.
What do you all think of his infestor? If Blizz used that model, would you all be happy?
WTF guys, stop comparing Jack vs Samwise this is stupid. They're not competing. Jack just took Samwise's concept and drew more details into it just to please the eye. They're both great and saying one is better than the other based on these is ridiculous and anyone doing that should be banned for being stupid IMO.
EDIT: One thing that hasn't been emphasized enough yet, is that even though most of Mr. Jack's artwork is just adding detail to units already fleshed out, that is NOT true for his version of the infestor. He took the idea of the infestor and did MAJOR revisions to it and in my opinion took an ugly unit (not because of detail but because of design), and made it awesome.
What do you all think of his infestor? If Blizz used that model, would you all be happy?
MrJacks version is hideous. I love it.
Edit: Although the Roaches are pretty simmlar MrJacks colors are much more inline with the zerg pallette I really appreciate the "tounge-like" fleshy claws on Jacks, unlike Blizzards versions whos claws are so sharp the look like they belong to Protoss..
Also, as someone noted, they are too heavy-built to be fast and agile. The drone also doesn't look like a weak, almost defenseless worker unit like it should.
This actually depends completely on the biology of the creature in question. Big heavily built creatures can be surprisingly quick and agile depending on their muscular structure. Even some as large as a Gorilla can be surprisingly quick, far faster than you would expect from a creature of that size and heavy body set. Don't be lulled by something looking "heavy" equating to it being slow.
That Hydralisk's weight is almost guaranteed to be entirely due to muscle. It seriously looks like it could scurry along the ground extremely fast, I severely doubt that it would be suffering from lack of agility. It also looks GROTESQUE, something I would expect from a zerg creature designed to kill things.
Edit: Although the Roaches are pretty simmlar MrJacks colors are much more inline with the zerg pallette I really appreciate the "tounge-like" fleshy claws on Jacks, unlike Blizzards versions whos claws are so sharp the look like they belong to Protoss..
True, it is creative additions like this that show that Mr. Jack is not just "copying" from the concept art. He is reimagining it in a more grotesque and anatomically realistic style. His roach is disgusting. Its something that has been pincusioned by guass fire and regenerated countless times. The pockmarked shell and extensive scar tissue of the underside do a great job at portraying this.
I also really love his baneling. It looks cancerous and unstable. Exactly how I would imagine a biological ticking time bomb would look. No eyes or unnessisary features, just a scuttling package of volatile growth.
Finally the extensive sinews that he adds to the zergling, roach and hydralisk show that these creaturese are purely muscle mashines. No need for external organs, fatty layers or dermal coverings over a creature that is just meant to move and kill fast.
For those who don't know Mr Jack currently does illustrations for biology books. It is clearly evident in these pieces that Mr Jack understands the importance of science in science fiction.
MrJack apply as a concept artist for blizzard. You have qualifications for that, just show them a portfolio silimar to what you have shown us and you are insta-hired. its not as hard as you think, i have respect for Samwise but he isnt anything special, he got hired by blizzard when they were tiny and working on simply 2d games.
-_-. Yes, his work is good, but concept art is not merely making things look as pretty as possible. Think about how hard it would be to translate this artist's work into a top-down, zoomed out game while maintaining the same feeling. The first picture would most likely look like quite a bad blob, as it has no feature that would distinguish itself in a silhouette, which is a major caveat for design. Concept art is to give the unit animators a unique and strong overall picture of a subject, sometimes simplified and exaggerated, not to embellish detail upon detail to make it stand out as a product all in its own. His designs are good, but they are more suited for illustration, not concept work.
Also, I have no idea how these pictures incorporates science into the physiology of these animals more than the average fantasy illustrator.
On February 17 2009 09:24 ShaperofDreams wrote: MrJack apply as a concept artist for blizzard. You have qualifications for that, just show them a portfolio silimar to what you have shown us and you are insta-hired. its not as hard as you think, i have respect for Samwise but he isnt anything special, he got hired by blizzard when they were tiny and working on simply 2d games.
On February 16 2009 21:35 CharlieMurphy wrote: The best one in there is the larva imo. He fucking made larva look cool.
Are you serious? The one on the right is actually turning into and egg too, so fucking sick.
QFT. I hope Blizz makes the larva kind of slimy like in Jack's picture. Who would have thought that a larva could look awesome?
EDIT: One thing that hasn't been emphasized enough yet, is that even though most of Mr. Jack's artwork is just adding detail to units already fleshed out, that is NOT true for his version of the infestor. He took the idea of the infestor and did MAJOR revisions to it and in my opinion took an ugly unit (not because of detail but because of design), and made it awesome.
What do you all think of his infestor? If Blizz used that model, would you all be happy?
My father is a senior concept artist for Radical Ent., sister company of blizzard, MrJack's stuff is fine, he may have to get a little familiar with Maya so he can communicate with them, as long as he is creative and he can create skillfully (which he has proven) he'll be fine.
hymn's comment shares exactly my sentiments. I'm not so much bashing mr jack as I am just against people downplaying samwise. He's a huge contributor to what has made blizzard -- blizzard. To just downplay that all is wrong, he's come up with so many ideas visually and most of what I'm seeing is along the lines of "mrjack is better". Kinda sad people are showing such ignorance, but if mrjack does apply for blizzard I do wish him the best of luck.
As already mentioned, samwise, working for a video game company must produce art that is applicable to the game he's working on. That's not to say that he can't fully illustrated and detailed works like MR.Jack.
Someone mentioned MR.Jack's occupation as an illustrator for biology books, and these kind of works he has made here are what would fit in the for example a game manual(you often see these kinds of illustrations) aswell in maybe some ingame info cards on creatures you have seen(think Tome of Knowledge in WH online)
These are great. They are raw, powerful, natural and disgusting, just how Zerg should be, not the current happy elfland wc3-ripoff artwork that the Metzens have slothed into, because it sells. I hope the people responsible for the current Zerg design (the cartoony feel did good for the Protoss, while the T is meh, ok) will have some nightmares of angry critiques with "Orcs in Space 2" signs.
There's still time. Don't sell out, Blizzard:-p
Ok, I might have steered offtopic, but these were my two cents
On February 17 2009 05:24 Savio wrote: lol, Archerofair just ripped dcttr66 a new hole without even saying anything.
try to be better mannered, actually archer was supporting my point. the drone looks a lot like a defiler. i haven't seen any blizzard pictures of the drone from sc2 until after i posted...
ok you can add the lurker to the list of mr. jack zerg pictures that i like...so that's the drone, the larva and the lurker. idk what's up with you guys liking his infestor. i LOVE the blizzard infestor, it's so awesome! and that mr. jack infestor looks pathetic. i mean, compare the feet for crying out loud, blizzard's feet look like metal feet! haha...it's a tough monster...and the jack infestor looks like it's just gonna die. i suppose if you are terran fan and you want an easy target spell caster you like jack's infestor just because you don't want to deal with the real infestor because it's much more deadly looking and scary. it might be fine for graphics for the little zerg guys that make creep that queens make that are burrowed but i'm not sure if they scrapped that idea or not...but infestor? no way, man. no way.
On February 18 2009 06:53 538 wrote: These are great. They are raw, powerful, natural and disgusting, just how Zerg should be, not the current happy elfland wc3-ripoff artwork that the Metzens have slothed into, because it sells. I hope the people responsible for the current Zerg design (the cartoony feel did good for the Protoss, while the T is meh, ok)
Doesn't look cartoonish to me. Anybody?
There's still time. Don't sell out, Blizzard:-p
Time for what? Redrawing their old concept art? Not gonna happen, sorry.
AHHH RUN ITS THE FLOOD!!! I have to say I have been very impressed by the portrait art blizzard has been turning out.
On February 18 2009 07:31 dcttr66 wrote:
try to be better mannered, actually archer was supporting my point. the drone looks a lot like a defiler.
Actually, No. I don't think MrJacks drone looks anything like a defiler. But that is just what I think. You might see something differently. Thats why I posted the images so people can compare them and come to there own conclusions.
Its the same thing with the MrJack/Blizzard comparisons I put up. I am going to post them and you can decide which one you like better. I like MrJacks more realistic style. You might not. Simple as that. I am not saying blizzard is bad at making art of even that they are incapable of making realistic art. One of my favorite artworks (and my wallpaper for the longest time) is this one
All that being said I see very few other realistic zerg artwork in the Starcraft2 art gallery
On February 17 2009 05:24 Savio wrote: lol, Archerofair just ripped dcttr66 a new hole without even saying anything.
i LOVE the blizzard infestor, it's so awesome! and that mr. jack infestor looks pathetic. i mean, compare the feet for crying out loud, blizzard's feet look like metal feet! haha...it's a tough monster...and the jack infestor looks like it's just gonna die.
I don't think the infestor is supposed to be "a tough monster". That would be the Ultralisk or even the roach. The infestor is not a tank, its a caster. Casters should be more brittle than their melee counterparts.
On February 17 2009 09:56 d.arkive wrote: -_-. Yes, his work is good, but concept art is not merely making things look as pretty as possible. Think about how hard it would be to translate this artist's work into a top-down, zoomed out game while maintaining the same feeling. The first picture would most likely look like quite a bad blob, as it has no feature that would distinguish itself in a silhouette, which is a major caveat for design. Concept art is to give the unit animators a unique and strong overall picture of a subject, sometimes simplified and exaggerated, not to embellish detail upon detail to make it stand out as a product all in its own. His designs are good, but they are more suited for illustration, not concept work.
Also, I have no idea how these pictures incorporates science into the physiology of these animals more than the average fantasy illustrator.
On February 17 2009 09:56 d.arkive wrote: Also, I have no idea how these pictures incorporates science into the physiology of these animals more than the average fantasy illustrator.
Its hard to describe. Take a look at a gross anatomy book and then look at MrJacks hydralisk. You can even see the glenohumeral ligaments on its shoulder.
archerofaiur, so you were supporting both points, same difference...
and yes, savio, perhaps casters shouldn't altogether be totally non-fragile but i'm not sure starcraft 2 is headed in that direction...look at mothership and queen for example, they are buff caster units so it makes sense that infestor be a buff caster unit too.
and i really don't think that unit is capable of doing much else than spitting out creep or some weird labor-related task like that...it does not look like a fighter of any kind and no matter how you look at it...all the starcraft casters are fighters of some sort. the old queen spat out broodlings and ensnare and parasite, and could hurl parasite at a range of 14! i think later they nerfed the range a little, not sure...anyway even medics have a good armor suit about them but this pathetic infestor doesn't look like it's suited for battle at all...it almost looks like overlord droppings to be honest but on second thought, like i mentioned, if i had to give it a task i'd make it make creep while burrowed like those things that were talked about... it just seems too small and i don't know what the antennae/tentacles are for or whatever in front, it's just a really bad idea. i think maybe he should redo the picture and he could do a better job on it, it's probably one of his first zerg unit renderings of this type and in my opinion he botched it up really bad.
don't get me wrong, his drawings are quite good and everyone makes mistakes, and i'm saying this is his mistake picture. about half of them are nowhere near as good as blizzard work and half of them are good...probably blizzard quality, and this one is just a failure. but i know some of you disagree...it's probably just because from looking at another thread i noticed that a huge number of people don't like the infestor blizzard look that you guys must be looking for some kindof look to replace it and when you see that look you instantly think infestor but when i look at that picture it doesn't look anything like infestor look to me because i already accepted how infestor should look like, and that's not it. but you guys were searching for something else and that's what that is.
probably if he makes the infestor over again it'll be better. at any rate, i doubt it'll be better than the blizzard version, but it seems reasonable for you guys to agree if he does it over again it will look better than this version. i mean seriously, that thing looks like it has the hp of a scourge.
On February 17 2009 09:56 d.arkive wrote: Also, I have no idea how these pictures incorporates science into the physiology of these animals more than the average fantasy illustrator.
Its hard to describe. Take a look at a gross anatomy book and then look at MrJacks hydralisk. You can even see the glenohumeral ligaments on its shoulder.
yes but the point being when the hydra gets converted into an animated unit in SC2 i doubt you will see the glenohumeral ligaments ingame =/
if anything that would be left for the cinematics and im sure blizz has that covered...
im just saying, he's good, but he's not bringing anything new to the table, unfortunately. until i see his portfolio and other concept art for say protoss and terran where he creates totally new units that have a specific purpose and fill a specific role, he's just elaborating on someone else's hardwork. the hardwork lies in creating unique and interesting units for the computer game. the easy part is taking a unit and adding some more spikes here and there, making the teeth sharper and longer etc and spending more time in photoshop coloring and creating textures.
On February 18 2009 08:40 dcttr66 wrote: don't get me wrong, his drawings are quite good
On February 17 2009 04:19 dcttr66 wrote: good effort but they look like crap pictures except for the first picture which is megacrap.
Can you please stop insulting the images. Whether you justify it or not, I feel everything you've said on this thread so far takes away from it. Jack posted these pictures for us to enjoy - something most of us are doing. You're allowed to have your own opinions - but don't bash him or his drawings or tell him who's the better artist. Keep it to yourself.
How could you not see archerofaiur was matching the 2 drone images? They were SPITTING images and you still insist Mr. Jack's looks more like the defiler. That's reason enough for us to ignore your criticism.
I gave up on him. I wan gonna explain the fact that drones do NOT look like defilers and some other corrections, but changed my mind (I don't think he is trying to troll though).
But Mr. Jack's infestor is awesome. I really like how he took the concept (multiple mouths, etc), but then altered the whole shape of the creature to make something new that still had an infestor feel to it.
EDIT: Another note on the roach. I was just looking at it again and that thing really does look like if you stepped on it and heard it crunch, it would just get up right after and scurry away. Seriously built durable.
Current In game model (yes we know they are changing it)
MrJacks version
Original
Original Lurker Concept Art
So yes "cartoony" concept art can be turned into a cool ingame model. But that does not mean that the "cartoony" concept art is better then realistic "pretty" art. Aestetics and function are not the same thing.
Blizzard's Infestor looks like the direct descendant of WOW's Hound of Cluthas and Eye of Culuthas from Burning Crusade. Sam Wise is a good artist, but he has spent so much time doing WC3 art that it permeates his current style. Take a look at his SC1 art and compare it to his SC2 art and you will see what I mean. Mr. Jack's Infestor is better than the current, but still not right in my eyes. The Sam Wise Infestor design is too WOW and needs to be redone from scratch.
I have to agree with the poster who pointed out that the infestor by Mr. Jack was not simply more detailed but actually a new design. I also like it a great deal better than Blizzard's current infestor model.
^ I agree, I just saw that SC2 Lurker and thought wow? Thats a lurker? What the heck, doesn't look right at all. I thought it was some kind of protoss unit at first. I think it lacks the organic feel to the unit
I DO think that this zerg reaver will be used to raid mineral lines too. You drop him (or have him dig there), spit a couple of fungal infestations and if your opponent doesn't hightail his workers out fast, BOOM.
I always wanted a zerg reaver. I think kerrigan looked at the reaver hosing all her minions and said, "hmmmmMMMm".
On February 19 2009 04:49 Savio wrote: I DO think that this zerg reaver will be used to raid mineral lines too. You drop him (or have him dig there), spit a couple of fungal infestations and if your opponent doesn't hightail his workers out fast, BOOM.
I always wanted a zerg reaver. I think kerrigan looked at the reaver hosing all her minions and said, "hmmmmMMMm".
Didn't think about it that way, that is very cool indeed. Too bad it doesn't work against P
On February 18 2009 14:47 Savio wrote: Probably the 2 units in all of SC2 who need a new in game model the MOST are lurker and the infestor. Anybody agree with that statement?
Agreed indeed.
Although I am loving this new look infestor (the infested reaver) that just got posted. Is this the new design? When did it come out? Where did the poster find that? (it's not up on the SC website artwork from what I can see).
On February 18 2009 14:47 Savio wrote: Probably the 2 units in all of SC2 who need a new in game model the MOST are lurker and the infestor. Anybody agree with that statement?
Agreed indeed.
Although I am loving this new look infestor (the infested reaver) that just got posted. Is this the new design? When did it come out? Where did the poster find that? (it's not up on the SC website artwork from what I can see).
On February 19 2009 06:35 tdotkrayz wrote: Dude, Blizzard stole MrJack's idea for the drone! I'm not even kidding, the two look almost identical now!
Oh no, god forbid that they improve the graphics of their [i]own creation[i]!!!
As things move toward realism, they're going to start looking more similar. Also, keep in mind that with the drone MrJack is drawing fanart, not original creations. There is no idea to steal.
Look at his work. It's the profile of a professional and not a fan submitting tributes. He can actually work in more than one style and most of it is original - not a rework of someone else's creation, so yeah, I agree there is no contest here.
On February 19 2009 06:35 tdotkrayz wrote: Dude, Blizzard stole MrJack's idea for the drone! I'm not even kidding, the two look almost identical now!
I hope they will steal his every design (well not steal maybe, pay him something)!
That will make me like SC2 so much more, i don't want it to look elfish, warcraftish, i loathe this art direction (as far as starcraft looks concerned), it's not mmorpg or W3. I feel the same for D3.
Sons of the Storm are no doubt amazing artists, but this Mr.Jack guy has insane talent. The level of detail and the muscly sinewy spin he gives on his zerg is really something amazing. That hydra, wow, just wow.
On February 19 2009 04:04 Savio wrote: LoL, Samwise just proved his worth again in my opinion with the new look of the infestor.
We will not doubt Samwise. Blizz always comes through in the end. Everything is simply a place holder until the game actually comes out.
Old infestor < Mr. Jack's Infestor < New Blizz infestor
But Mr. Jack still gets uber respect.
Wow at the new Infestor design, it's incredible... First thing i thought of was this movie called Nausicaä from Hayao Miyazaki. There were some badass monsters very similar to this Infestor artwork.
On February 19 2009 04:04 Savio wrote: LoL, Samwise just proved his worth again in my opinion with the new look of the infestor.
We will not doubt Samwise. Blizz always comes through in the end. Everything is simply a place holder until the game actually comes out.
Old infestor < Mr. Jack's Infestor < New Blizz infestor
But Mr. Jack still gets uber respect.
Wow at the new Infestor design, it's incredible... First thing i thought of was this movie called Nausicaä from Hayao Miyazaki. There were some badass monsters very similar to this Infestor artwork.
Blizzard thanks Miyazaki in the Starcraft credit; their inspiration for the reaver ^^
On February 19 2009 04:04 Savio wrote: LoL, Samwise just proved his worth again in my opinion with the new look of the infestor.
We will not doubt Samwise. Blizz always comes through in the end. Everything is simply a place holder until the game actually comes out.
Old infestor < Mr. Jack's Infestor < New Blizz infestor
But Mr. Jack still gets uber respect.
Wow at the new Infestor design, it's incredible... First thing i thought of was this movie called Nausicaä from Hayao Miyazaki. There were some badass monsters very similar to this Infestor artwork.
Blizzard thanks Miyazaki in the Starcraft credit; their inspiration for the reaver ^^
Oohmu or something I think they were called, they were pretty hardcore alright.
God I wish I could draw as well as either samwise or mr. jack.
On February 19 2009 04:04 Savio wrote: LoL, Samwise just proved his worth again in my opinion with the new look of the infestor.
We will not doubt Samwise. Blizz always comes through in the end. Everything is simply a place holder until the game actually comes out.
Old infestor < Mr. Jack's Infestor < New Blizz infestor
But Mr. Jack still gets uber respect.
Wow at the new Infestor design, it's incredible... First thing i thought of was this movie called Nausicaä from Hayao Miyazaki. There were some badass monsters very similar to this Infestor artwork.
On February 16 2009 19:36 Bash wrote: Everything else is superawesome and whatnot but Samwise's zergling is easily better. The one Jack made is to me way too complicated (in an un-aerodynamic way) and heavy-built to be this fast as fuck little scurrying motherfucker who will tear your face off if you let it get close enough.
this this this
i like some of things hes done, but i really don't like the hydra...
People unfamilar with the development cycle need to realise alot of the blizzard pics are concept art used throughout the development stages.
For each black and white sketch you see there was over a 100 doodles to finally settle on the overall design
And for each colored pic you see there were problaly over a dozen different variations on texture and coloring.
All of which are finally passed down for the 3d modellers to implement.
A good example for this would be the DT model, even the final 3d model has 2 variations... now jsut think back to how many actual sketches and paintings and drawings and variations the dt unit alone would have had.
That and I think making the game's rating also played a factor. Imagine your 14 year old trolling through the supermarket and asking his mommy to buy a box with that hydralisk on the cover.. ehhh..
Amazingly detailed and beautiful drawings. Zergling wings should be removed at all or used as seen in alternate version IMHO. I don't see them being there at all, especially in live game sequences, there they look ridiculous. Roach and Baneling is so much more detailed and grotesque that I start to doubt Blizzard artist talents. Hydra is quite good but too bulky. And yeah... infected terran is absolutely GODLIKE. This is the best "infection" art which I've seen since Homeworld: Cataclysm.
damn man the defiler is awesome. I love the dark swarm coming out of his back, its funny how i didn't really think about how the swarm cloud has to come out of the defiler since in the game it just appears like magic. Keep up the good work man!
Nice Defiler man your style of drawing has a realism and flair to it that makes it very interesting, are you going to keep pumping out zerg units (all of which have been very nice so far) or are you going to throw in some units from other races in sc2 /scbw?
EDIT: or i guess i should say is mr jack planning on throwing in other races units and such lol forgot the poster wasnt the drawer
Sick art. I still think Samwise is more into detail. For example the wings of the zerglings are hit by gunshots etc.. O_O! Still blizzard should hire that guy!
http://www.battle.net/images/misc/09-02/InfesterArt.jpg looks like i was right. accepting apologies for getting me banned now. i have visited www.battle.net forums while banned and i have to say...most ppl on tl.net are very bad mannered compared to the guys in that forum...i didn't really mind being banned all that much.
the intolerance of people who express their opinions when it's different from yours is why i got banned, it seems. i just want to let everyone know why.
also, i did not see the newest renderings of the drone, notably the fancy crabby claws...so that's why i was confused by jack's rendering of the drone. and that's why i said the drone looked somewhat like a defiler. i didn't get a proper chance to explain myself earlier because everyone but archerofaiur was very pissed off at me and got me banned.
P.S. moderators please stop banning me for no reason
On March 07 2009 06:09 dcttr66 wrote: http://www.battle.net/images/misc/09-02/InfesterArt.jpg looks like i was right. accepting apologies for getting me banned now. i have visited www.battle.net forums while banned and i have to say...most ppl on tl.net are very bad mannered compared to the guys in that forum...i didn't really mind being banned all that much.
the intolerance of people who express their opinions when it's different from yours is why i got banned, it seems. i just want to let everyone know why.
also, i did not see the newest renderings of the drone, notably the fancy crabby claws...so that's why i was confused by jack's rendering of the drone. and that's why i said the drone looked somewhat like a defiler. i didn't get a proper chance to explain myself earlier because everyone but archerofaiur was very pissed off at me and got me banned.
P.S. moderators please stop banning me for no reason
On March 07 2009 06:09 dcttr66 wrote: http://www.battle.net/images/misc/09-02/InfesterArt.jpg looks like i was right. accepting apologies for getting me banned now. i have visited www.battle.net forums while banned and i have to say...most ppl on tl.net are very bad mannered compared to the guys in that forum...i didn't really mind being banned all that much.
the intolerance of people who express their opinions when it's different from yours is why i got banned, it seems. i just want to let everyone know why.
also, i did not see the newest renderings of the drone, notably the fancy crabby claws...so that's why i was confused by jack's rendering of the drone. and that's why i said the drone looked somewhat like a defiler. i didn't get a proper chance to explain myself earlier because everyone but archerofaiur was very pissed off at me and got me banned.
P.S. moderators please stop banning me for no reason
Just in the interest of full disclosure (which you magically forgot to mention):
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On March 07 2009 06:09 dcttr66 wrote: looks like i was right. accepting apologies for getting me banned now. i have visited www.battle.net forums while banned and i have to say...most ppl on tl.net are very bad mannered compared to the guys in that forum...i didn't really mind being banned all that much. ... P.S. moderators please stop banning me for no reason
Terrific illustrations and coloring. I have to say that Blizzard's drawings are ABSOLUTELY designed to be easily transferred into 3D polygons + 3D animation.
Mr Jack's illustrations provide a much more detailed, frightening zerg that one might expect to see were one to walk inside the Starcaft universe.
In both his ultralisk pictures, Mr. Jack is exaggerating the size of the Ultralisk (judging from the Starcraft: Ghost teaser and the zerg ending movie in BW). I mean if they were really that big they would only need one slice to kill anything, or at least send it flying, but it's still awesome.
I think the Ultralisk is the worst by now. Way too big compared to the Zealot. Furthmore there is too less recognizeable stuff like eyes and something like a head? Yes I see the head and the small yellow eyes...but that's WAY to small! And yeah, always thes massive amount of teeths - please be a little bit more creative Mr. Jack not every Zerg unit needs teeth like a shark.
I'm not sure if you guys are trolling by saying that Ultralisk is way too big, but that WAS the main idea of that picture, to exaggerate the size of Ultra to make it more 'horrifying' I suppose.
That picture is more of a cinematic nature, rather than a picture which focuses on details and reality of how should a unit look (reality in StarCraft universe that is).
The ultra is gorgeous. Every single artwork of this guy is head and shoulders above what blizzard's warc..sc2 team makes. It's like bad cheap cartoon vs real art.
I don't think Blizzard is too far behind, if behind at all. Like I've said it before and I'll say it again, nearly all of my art friends agree, that it is much easier to copy and improve on an already existing thing, than creating something new.
As far as I can tell he's really good at drawing the zerg-y look with their organic carapace, spikes and horns, and their tendons and muscles.
But there are two other races in starcraft. Can he also deliver the high technology, neon lights glowing, shiny gold armor protoss look? Can he deliver the gritty armour, dirty hard working men, exiles look?
Is he a one trick pony that can only draw the zerg? Or does he have the full capability to work with the whole starcraft universe, not just a third of it.
On March 16 2009 18:55 evanthebouncy! wrote: I think they lack dynamic to be honest, great texture, great detail, but I can't see the thing he's drawing move in a fast, convincing zerg way.
Wtf with very weird critique like that, i don't see any problem with "dynamic". Wtf with fail-linking to site where you need a reg. Freaking amazing works here, all of them.
Is that propaganda from sc2 official drawers and their friends? I think so.
Everyone should be happy someone decided to make stuff this amazing quality devoted to starcraft.
On March 16 2009 18:55 evanthebouncy! wrote: I think they lack dynamic to be honest, great texture, great detail, but I can't see the thing he's drawing move in a fast, convincing zerg way.
Wtf with very weird critique like that, i don't see any problem with "dynamic". Wtf with fail-linking to site where you need a reg. Freaking amazing works here, all of them.
Is that propaganda from sc2 official drawers and their friends? I think so.
Everyone should be happy someone decided to make stuff this amazing quality devoted to starcraft.
Oh I don't think any one is doubting the following things: MrJack's ability to draw, his dedication to SC or SC2, any of the other positive things.
But I agree with evanthebouncy here, his pictures look great as standstills, but they are living creatures, while its great the pictures contain lots of details, I have issues when imagining their movements.
Also, drones were wasps in a hostile environment, I expect them to be hardcore.
The best one is the defiler, looking at the how the plague/swarm leaks out of its body is kind of what expected.
Id like to see his rendition of the new Infestor, and I honestly cannot see how something the size of the Ultralisk could burror, and honestly...what would be the point of burrowing Ultra's that late in the game, maybe just to hide your count, but usually you want them on the field right away
On March 13 2009 03:43 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't think Blizzard is too far behind, if behind at all. Like I've said it before and I'll say it again, nearly all of my art friends agree, that it is much easier to copy and improve on an already existing thing, than creating something new.
As far as I can tell he's really good at drawing the zerg-y look with their organic carapace, spikes and horns, and their tendons and muscles.
But there are two other races in starcraft. Can he also deliver the high technology, neon lights glowing, shiny gold armor protoss look? Can he deliver the gritty armour, dirty hard working men, exiles look?
Is he a one trick pony that can only draw the zerg? Or does he have the full capability to work with the whole starcraft universe, not just a third of it.
Why does it matter if he can only draw existing Zerg? He doesn't work for Blizzard, and he draws these units for entertainment and for our viewing enjoyment, not as concept art for a potential game.
It's a ridiculous reason to call him a one trick pony just because he only puts out incredibly rendered Zerg artwork. Have you ever seen his other artwork?
Just thought I would touch on the MrJack "one trick pony" comment.
MrJack Interview from a ways back, but kind of goes through some of the things he has done. The man's sketch book is amazing. Some of his Diablo concepts are simply the best that I have ever seen.
I'll also note that he is working on another huge project. His artwork really is amazing. I'll try to swing by and post a link to his next project when it is up.
On March 13 2009 03:43 pyrogenetix wrote: I don't think Blizzard is too far behind, if behind at all. Like I've said it before and I'll say it again, nearly all of my art friends agree, that it is much easier to copy and improve on an already existing thing, than creating something new.
As far as I can tell he's really good at drawing the zerg-y look with their organic carapace, spikes and horns, and their tendons and muscles.
But there are two other races in starcraft. Can he also deliver the high technology, neon lights glowing, shiny gold armor protoss look? Can he deliver the gritty armour, dirty hard working men, exiles look?
Is he a one trick pony that can only draw the zerg? Or does he have the full capability to work with the whole starcraft universe, not just a third of it.
Why does it matter if he can only draw existing Zerg? He doesn't work for Blizzard, and he draws these units for entertainment and for our viewing enjoyment, not as concept art for a potential game.
It's a ridiculous reason to call him a one trick pony just because he only puts out incredibly rendered Zerg artwork. Have you ever seen his other artwork?
just saw his other stuff and damn. just damn. i take back what i said.
Holy shit, I was going through his deviantART gallery and I have to say that he has huge range as an artist. I saw the beautiful zergs, comic paintings etc. Good stuff!!
I'd like to see Mr.Jacks version of the two headed fire breathing flying ultralisk.
Pretty good looking art. It's weird to see an ultra-looking unit with such a long neck though. That would make a sweet upgrade for ultras for an expansion haha :p Or in the editor or somethin'
On April 16 2009 11:29 Machine[USA] wrote: i cant see all the pics on the first page now, can someone repost them all?
I will fix it when mr jack posts his next artwork. Till then you can visit the link to MrJacks thread on Starcraft-Source. Interesting site, check em out!
On April 24 2009 11:04 Kennigit wrote: Oh my god have you guys seen this yet?
What I wonder most when I watch these kinds of videos is how the hell do they know what to draw? The man must have studied the sc2 reveal vid for effing hours to know how to draw that intricate armor.
If you guys want to check out Mr. Jack's drawings, just check his deviant art account. That's where I went when I couldn't see those pics. They're so delicious.http://mr--jack.deviantart.com/gallery/
BTW that marine is the sexiest thing on earth... or should I say the Korprulu sector. I feel like I should go outside now.
very interesting looking mutalisk, but its probably my least favorite so far. The wings just look weird to me, and the jaw at the bottom is to..gooey i guess would be the best word.
Sometimes I like MrJack's artwork better than other times. Samwise definitely slipped up with the infestor, but I like his hydra and zergling better than MrJack's. Jack's ultra is pretty awesome though, I always thought that the ultras in-game were too tall and upright. It hurt their unstoppable beast-ness.
I'm not a huge fan of his artwork. It's detailed and it obviously took a lot of talent to draw, but it doesn't feel Zerg-y. It's instead looks necrotic, like rotting flesh and decaying limbs, rather than the Zerg's organic, insect-like feel.
JESUS CHRIST MAN SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE NET IN THE RIGHT TIME YOU MISS THREADS LIKE THIS YOU FUCKING MISS THREADS LIKE THIS I SAW IT LIKE JUST NOW
but I know mods hate caps so I spoilered my shit... and I remembered tonight how funny and zergy was thinking Mutta Thal name on the Arc de Triomphe in Paris had to belong to zerg and it makes me better z user thinking like that... AND THEN I SAW THESE THEEEESSSEEEEE
Someone tell Mr Jack there is deviantart.com ^.^?
edit: He should send some comic to beta contest like just make THIS AWESOME INFESTED TERRAN say to anything "You are so fucked, for the Overmind" and the other thing say "Yes" Instawin
I was SO WRONG when I wrote THIS AWESOME INFESTED TERRAN should speak to "something". By "something" I meant something terran or protoss. There just should be 2 INFESTED TERRANS and maybe some other z units speaking "wrrreekooo" "oowwglhhlhhl?" "bzzzzz"
If there is something in His gallery He hasn't uploaded on imageshack, I will do this for him, I swear
Uploading them right now, I checked his gallery for more ^^
I actually downloaded them from his gallery, made account on photobucket and uploaded them there... and thought you meant the sc-source thread now O.o naahhh I couldn't miss them there MR JACK OFFRACED
Beetle thanks for posting all those. Im alittle hesitant to add it to the OP since the thread is about his zerg art (cant wait to make a protoss version) and it might make the loading of the first page take too long. But if people think I should put it up maybe I will.
On July 13 2009 13:51 Archerofaiur wrote: Beetle thanks for posting all those. Im alittle hesitant to add it to the OP since the thread is about his zerg art (cant wait to make a protoss version) and it might make the loading of the first page take too long. But if people think I should put it up maybe I will.
On May 08 2009 16:30 G.s)NarutO wrote: If you ask me this beats Mr Jacks mutalisk by far:
Its fucking insane dude, INSANE.
that looks like a vampire bat. not really zergish enough imo.
I love mr jack's art but IMO the mutalisk lacks a bit, especially compared to this. I think this version of the mutalisk is the most badass concept art blizzard's ever released, though.
On July 14 2009 06:29 ActualSteve wrote: Just looked at the entire spread a second time. Still I question how you do what you do.
Just to clarify, its not me. Its MrJack's work. You can find him on Starcraft-Source and tell him how great he is over there. I dont know if he has a TL account.
On July 14 2009 06:29 ActualSteve wrote: Just looked at the entire spread a second time. Still I question how you do what you do.
Just to clarify, its not me. Its MrJack's work. You can find him on Starcraft-Source and tell him how great he is over there. I dont know if he has a TL account.
...or make deviantart account and pm him on it / write comment on his page x) http://mr--jack.deviantart.com/ shit I should do this since I uploaded all of his Zerg Art on photobucket xP
edit: mailing done maybe he will post something here?
OK so MrJack mailed me back! Archerofaiur you have to update OP
Ahoy!
Yep, I've gotta say it's been fun to watch that thread grow (he linked me to it when he started it a while back now) along the way, feels a bit weird sometimes to have so many people talking about my stuff (feeling as I do like I'm just some guy from Melbourne) but hey, it's all good.
As to the question yeah, that's cool to keep that stuff up there as long as you're not going around making claims to copyright or anything like that, which is highly unlikely. So yes, I'm fine with that. (oh, I had a check and I don't know if this was linked in the thread - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3o_KBAOxN0)
No I don't have a TL account at the moment... I probably should get one at some point, but right now I don't think I need any more forums to join and not have time to spend time on. I check out the news there sometimes though, a cool place.
Cheers, and thanks for the support, Luke.
(and I'm already on the way on the next couple, so I've gotten over that little break in images I went through; I might even get to some OTHER RACES at some point at this rate. Still, no need to get ahead of oneself)
Amazing as always! Let's see some Terran vs Protoss action shots! Go go!
Also, reading through the blizforums thread, I discovered that there have been THREE Starcraft graphic novels released? I had nooooo freaking idea! WTF. Buying asap.
On August 11 2009 22:49 Haemonculus wrote: Amazing as always! Let's see some Terran vs Protoss action shots! Go go!
Also, reading through the blizforums thread, I discovered that there have been THREE Starcraft graphic novels released? I had nooooo freaking idea! WTF. Buying asap.
Wow I've been using all of these as wallpapers for the past year thinking it was Blizzard concept art. My versions don't have the MrJack signature on them for some reason =.=
These are frikin AMAZING. MrJack I salute you sir.
On February 16 2009 22:45 Random() wrote: I, for one, don't like them.
They are overcomplicated and not really believable. Too many teeth, fangs, spikes and thorns in random places.
Also, as someone noted, they are too heavy-built to be fast and agile. The drone also doesn't look like a weak, almost defenseless worker unit like it should.
If you think in terms of game-play it makes perfect sense. A drone can take 5-6 hits from a 3 meter(?), muscular built zealot, with massive PSYONIC BLADES on his fists. Why should it be depicted as a weak flimsy unit? That is even less believable.
On March 03 2013 17:35 neoghaleon55 wrote: what unit is this? I can't figure it out
The URL says infestor, I think it looks a bit like a broodling.
It is his alternative Infestor model.
Since the old Infestor looked like this he didn't like it, and created new model. Shortly after, Blizzard changed the model of the Infestor to what we have today.
On March 03 2013 19:06 WetSocks wrote: that unit below Mutalisk reminds me to Khezu from Monster Hunter games! and That Infested Terran looks really really good
That's Scourge, in BW you get them in pairs like zerglings for 25mins and 75gas. Each one is a missile you can control that hits for 110 damage, can overkill. Renown for being stupid like Reaver's Scarabs.
On March 03 2013 17:35 neoghaleon55 wrote: what unit is this? I can't figure it out
The URL says infestor, I think it looks a bit like a broodling.
It is his alternative Infestor model.
Since the old Infestor looked like this he didn't like it, and created new model. Shortly after, Blizzard changed the model of the Infestor to what we have today.
Old Infestor is butt ugly, holy shit. Like, not the Zerg flavor of "ugly", but just really unappealing and doesn't represent the Swarm.
Anyway, do Drones have legs? Or do they hover over ground? Do they slide? What's their deal
On March 03 2013 17:35 neoghaleon55 wrote: what unit is this? I can't figure it out
The URL says infestor, I think it looks a bit like a broodling.
It is his alternative Infestor model.
Since the old Infestor looked like this he didn't like it, and created new model. Shortly after, Blizzard changed the model of the Infestor to what we have today.
Old Infestor is butt ugly, holy shit. Like, not the Zerg flavor of "ugly", but just really unappealing and doesn't represent the Swarm.
Anyway, do Drones have legs? Or do they hover over ground? Do they slide? What's their deal
Yes, it is ugly, that is why they have changed it. It looked a lot more like some Demon with multiple heads than the Zerg unit.
Drones have legs, but they do hover over the ground, like all other workers. But their legs aren't like legs from other Zerg units, they are more like turned into little wings, as you see on that picture.