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IEM Katowice 2024 - RO24 Group A&B Preview

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IEM Katowice 2024: Round-of-24
Group A & B Preview

by Poopi

For years we've introduced IEM Katowice as the final destination of the ESL Pro Tour, but twists and turns in the calendar have turned it into a mid-way checkpoint. Still, with over ten years of history behind it and $500,000 in total prize up for grabs, you can be sure that the players will compete with a world championship level of focus.

(Wiki)IEM Katowice 2024

With the RO36 getting trimmed out in the 2024 edition of the tournament, we begin directly in the RO24 group stages.

Group A: GuMiho, Solar, Spirit, HeroMarine, Scarlett, trigger

The Three Favorites

Looking at this group, Solar and GuMiho stand out immediately as the favorites to advance. Solar won the latest season of GSL Code S, finished top four at Gamers8, and was fantastic for ONSYDE in their back-to-back World Team League victories. As for GuMiho, he may not have won a trophy in 2023, but still rose to #2 in the EPT Korea rankings thanks to his consistently strong performances all year—the highlights being his runner-up finishes in both Code S Season 3 and EPT Summer/Jonkoping.

Those two might be the obvious favorites, in my humble opinion there's another player who deserves that distinction: HeroMarine. Indeed, Big Gabe has managed to get out of the IEM Katowice RO24 every year since 2021, despite being put into difficult groups (not that there's ever an easy Katowice group). He even reached the semifinals in 2022, and that kind of experience is an advantage over the players who haven't achieved as much on the Katowice stage.

In the mix

Spirit is the player who has the best chance to ruin my top three prediction, and some fans probably even have him as a favorite over HeroMarine. Spirit is actually just slightly ahead of HeroMarine in terms of EPT points, with both of them having put up solid results over the course of the 2023/24 EPT season. However, Spirit's single best run was more impressive, as he achieved a fantastic top four finish in EPT Summer Europe with big wins over Reynor and HeroMarine himself (eventually losing 1-3 to MaxPax in the semis). He almost made a similar splash in EPT Winter Europe, but barely lost 2-3 to Clem and settled for a top eight finish (HeroMarine did get his revenge here, winning 3-2 in the losers bracket). Going by EPT 2023/24 results alone, Spirit would probably be the pick to advance over HeroMarine, but the success factor at Katowice leads me to give Big Gabe the edge. Of course, Spirit will also be playing in front of a friendly home crowd, which has to be at least a minor advantage.

Scarlett may be a perennial fan-favorite, but she's surely a long-shot candidate to advance. She's never made it past the RO24 ever at Katowice, and in most tournaments she was stopped in the RO36. However, she's been fortunate to draw her best match-up of ZvT (by Aligulac rating) three times, which makes this her best opportunity yet. Win a ZvT, beat Trigger, and coin-flip the ZvZ could be her formula to advance, but that could be tricky considering how upset-resistant Solar has been in the mirror.

Fellow Canadian trigger comes into Katowice as the clear underdog in the group. He climbed through the ranks of his region last year, going from a top 8 finish in EPT Americas Summer (featuring a close 2-3 loss to Astrea) to top 3 in the Winter season. However, he's yet to make an impact in a global competition like this, and this really feels like the kind of tournament where he will take his lumps and get the big-match experience needed to achieve greater heights going forward. Like Scarlett, his vs Terran is his best match-up by Aligulac rating, so maybe he'll be able to score an upset and throw a wrench in someone else's plans.

Predictions

Solar is a strong favorite to take first place, with stats site Aligulac.com projecting him as the comfortable favorite against every single group opponent. HeroMarine, the player with the best estimated chance against him, only has a 36% chance of winning, while poor trigger is deemed to have less than a 7% chance of scoring the upset. Those are very stark numbers for competition at this level.

That said, I feel like the numbers also underplay how dangerous GuMiho can be (does he really only have a 27% probability of beating Solar?), especially in a big tournament he's had ample time to prepare for. He may not boost his Aligulac rating by dominating online cups, but he's come through consistently with high finishes in big tournaments throughout the 2023/24 season. Even if he only limps through the group in 2nd or 3rd place, GuMiho could very well make another deep run when he hits the playoffs.

Could the three-way TvT carousel between GuMiho, Spirit, and HeroMarine throw the final standings into disarray? Remember, last year's Group A featured the Terran trio of Oliveira, Clem, and Cure, but only underdog Oliveira advanced thanks to his 2-0 result in the 'internal' round-robin. Aligulac ratings show a firm TvT hierarchy of GuMiho (3033) > HeroMarine (2887) > Spirit (2536), but that's not big enough of a gap to preclude some chaotic results.

In particular, I see the match of Spirit vs HeroMarine being one of crucial importance in the group. HeroMarine is a heavy favorite with a 72%+ chance of winning, and recently beat Spirit 3-0 in the EU qualifier for IEM Katowice. However, the head-to-head match record actually favors Spirit by 13 to 8 (36-29 map record) in matches since 2023. So don't let that scary number of 72% fool you—this match definitely could go either way and possibly swing 3rd/4th place in this group.

The final Aligulac.com prediction aligns with mine, saying Solar, HeroMarine, and GuMiho will go through. That third place spot is hardly locked in, but I will favor the players who have the superior track record at Katowice.

1st. Solar
2nd. GuMiho
3rd. HeroMarine -- Advance


4th. Spirit
5th. Scarlett
6th. Trigger -- Eliminated

Group B: Clem, Cure, Oliveira, Bunny, SHIN, Stats

The Terrifying Terran Tetrad

If Group D hadn't been so ridiculously stacked, Group B would definitely be worthy of group-of-death of designation.

We have to start with Oliveira, the defending IEM Katowice champion. If he can channel even a fraction of the magic from that miracle run, then he'll be a threat to any player in the tournament.

Then, there's Clem, who finally translated his great European online results into an offline championship at EPT Winter/Atlanta. While he cooled down slightly in Master's Coliseum 7, his scintillating Atlanta run and rampage through the WTL playoffs mark him as one of the top championship contenders.

If that wasn't enough, Cure comes in as the third elite Terran. Like GuMiho in Group A, he had a fantastic 2023 despite not winning any trophies, placing runner-up at Gamers8 and Code S Season 1, and top four in Code S Season 2 and EPT Winter. International tournaments used to be Cure's weakness, but now he seems prepared to advance from the IEM Katowice group stages for the first time.

Finally, there's Bunny to add even more Terran power. While he's come down slightly from his amazing 2022/23 campaign, he proved himself in Code S with a top four result in Season 1. Even a weakened version of Bunny can be dangerous due to his aggressive and wild style, and he may even have been one of the favorites to advance in Group A or C.

Chasing Past Glory

Two-time Katowice finalist Stats has been back from the military for over a year now, and unfortunately for Protoss fans, his recovery has been on the slower side. He needed a lot of bracket luck to qualify, drawing his best match-up of PvP several times while ducking stronger players due to big upsets elsewhere in the bracket. Ultimately, he only needed to beat NightMare (3-1), Coffee (2-0), and sOs (3-1) in the qualifier, which is rather unconvincing ahead of this kind of event. Still, it's not like he's totally out of place—his Aligulac rating of 2747 puts him in the range of other Katowice participants like Astrea, Spirit, and Scarlett. Given how great Stats was in his prime, you can't count out the chance that his pre-Katowice practice will pay off big in the main event.

Meanwhile, SHIN is chasing highs from the not-so-distant past. He had a fantastic 2023/23 season, achieving runner-up in Code S and top four at IEM Katowice 2023 (where he took a huge upset against Serral in the quarterfinals). Unfortunately, the 2023/24 campaign has been more in line with what we expect from the Zerg formerly known as RagnaroK. He remained in the top 20-16 zone in Code S and EPT events, and his best result was a top four in AfreecaTV Champions Cup #2.

In spite of these disappointing results after the highs of the previous season, SHIN is still playing good starcraft in the smaller online tournaments and ranks just outside of top 10 on Aligulac (#13 at the time of writing). If Oliveira plays like he has during the 2023/24 season so far, SHIN might even be the favorite to take third ahead of Oliveira and Bunny.

Upset Potential?

On paper, it sure looks like Clem and Cure are locked into the top two, while SHIN and Oliveira will battle it out for the third place spot. However, there is potential for this group to go in a completely unexpected direction.

As mentioned in the Group A preview, both Clem and Cure failed to advance from the RO24 last year due to TvT, with Oliveira sneaking into the playoffs at their expense. In the cross-matches between Clem, Cure, Bunny, and Oliveira, there are only marginal favorites, and no one is immune to an upset.

Just last month we saw Ryung hold the all-powerful Clem to a 1-1 draw twice in the WTL playoffs. The very same Ryung that was eliminated by Vindicta at EPT Winter/Atlanta, and didn't even qualify for Katowice! Also, the TvT meta still doesn't seem fully set—mass Cyclones in the early game are still strong, but defense has been catching up. Anyone who is ahead of the curve strategically could have a crucial edge.

The other X factor is the intense pressure players will face at Katowice. Cure has never made it out of the Katowice group stage, while Clem only did so during the all-online version of the tournament in 2021. However, there's reason to believe they'll get over the hump this time. Clem overcame the offline wall by winning EPT Winter with a dramatic run worthy of a shonen anime, and I think it was a real turning point. As for Cure, he went all the way to the finals of another $500k-tier tournament in Gamers8, which suggests he's gotten over whatever held him back in high-stakes events.

The Normal Man

Speaking of mentality, Oliveira played the best StarCraft of his life in last year's Katowice while his opponents crumbled around him. Considering that we were calling that run a miracle as it happened, it's not exactly a surprise that he hasn't played at that level subsequently. He was stopped in the group stage of Gamers8, dropping 'expected' losses to Solar, Reynor and Clem. While he earned a respectable top eight finish at EPT Winter, he mostly beat players he could previously have defeated (Elazer, Harstem and Astrea) before losing to Serral 1-3. In the most recent tournament of Master's Coliseum 7, he missed the playoffs with losses to Dark, Clem, and Classic.

Overall, it feels like Oliveira is back to where he was before IEM Katowice 2023. He's a strong foreigner right below the top players, with an outside chance to advance but not a favorite by any means. Maybe having lowered expectations will be a good thing, with most of the pressure that came immediately after Katowice being gone. In any case, advancing will be no easy task, but perhaps Oliveira's strong TvT will give him the edge once more.

Predictions

Aligulac likes Clem, Cure, and SHIN to advance, but I think there's enough variables in the group to go for a crazier prediction. Based on nothing but Stats' past accomplishments, I'm going to say he will emerge from his hyperbolic time chamber in incredible shape and qualify for the playoffs.

That's as far as I'll go here—I can't predict Clem and Cure to drop out of the group stage for the second year in a row (but I would not be in shock if that was the case). As for Oliveira, SHIN and Bunny, they all have a realistic shot at qualifying, and the battle for the 3rd spot should be particularly fun this time around—at least for the viewers .

1st. Clem
2nd. Cure
3rd. Stats -- Advance


4th. Oliveira
5th. SHIN
6th. Bunny -- Eliminated




Writer: Poopi
Editor: Wax
Photos: Adam Lakomy (via ESL)
Statistics and records: Liquipedia and Aligulac.com


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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3457 Posts
February 07 2024 08:42 GMT
#2
Trigger might upset the order in group A, not enough for him to advance but he might cost someone a match or two. I would take Cure over Clem in a Terran-heavy group, and my wildcard pick Shin can get into 3rd place if he split the series with the Terran players.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 07 2024 09:09 GMT
#3
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10
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BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
February 07 2024 09:22 GMT
#4
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
February 07 2024 09:31 GMT
#5
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form
WriterMaru
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18210 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-07 09:49:05
February 07 2024 09:48 GMT
#6
On February 07 2024 18:31 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form

Stats having no protoss in his group hurts him. He made it through the playoffs on the back of his PvP (although that wasn't particularly great in the WTL either, so dunno).

I am also going with 0-10 for Stats.
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1391 Posts
February 07 2024 10:56 GMT
#7
Predicting any of these Protoss players to advance is bold.

I wouldn't be surprised if every Protoss other than herO gets eliminated before the group stage is over.
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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
February 07 2024 10:58 GMT
#8
I have to say that the difference in strength between group D and the other groups (especially A) kills a bit of the hype for me.

A playoff without Reynor, Maru, Her0 or Reynor (even Showtime to a lesser extend) while also having Spirit / Heromarine and someone not Byun nor Serral from group C feels wrong.
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
February 07 2024 11:20 GMT
#9
On February 07 2024 18:48 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 18:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form

Stats having no protoss in his group hurts him. He made it through the playoffs on the back of his PvP (although that wasn't particularly great in the WTL either, so dunno).

I am also going with 0-10 for Stats.


Stats might have qualified but he doesn't have a positive enough recent match history to rely upon. The 0-10 does not sound fanciful at all.
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 07 2024 11:45 GMT
#10
Stats' recent results really don't inspire confidence. He's only played 2 matches since December though, so it's possible that he hunkered down and grinded hard. Still, I think it takes more than a month to get in world class shape.

A month is enough time for someone like Reynor to go from good to amazing, but even Reynor's floor is near world class.

Hopefully the normal man makes a bit of a run!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26237 Posts
February 07 2024 11:47 GMT
#11
It’s Stats man, I designate this post as open for sig mockery if I’m wrong but I’ll eat my left boot if Stats goes 0-10

I don’t have confidence he’ll advance, although it wouldn’t blow my mind, but he’s taking at least one series

He’s one of the all-time greats, Kato is a pretty big motivator and he’s had quite some time to just grind out PvT. Everyone else bar Ragnarok (not SHIN) has TvT mirror to focus on really heavily.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26237 Posts
February 07 2024 11:55 GMT
#12
On February 07 2024 18:31 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form

He’s just not that good and I look forward to him being eliminated so the casting talent don’t spend half a cast gushing about ‘Big Gabe’

Nah I am kidding, outside of the caster bashing part, genuinely my biggest pet hate in casting is most of the current roster doing a Heromarine game. Can definitely see him advancing for sure
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 07 2024 12:56 GMT
#13
On February 07 2024 20:55 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 18:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form

He’s just not that good and I look forward to him being eliminated so the casting talent don’t spend half a cast gushing about ‘Big Gabe’

Nah I am kidding, outside of the caster bashing part, genuinely my biggest pet hate in casting is most of the current roster doing a Heromarine game. Can definitely see him advancing for sure

The biggest troll happened when team BIG signed showtime instead of heromarine, denying the casters from saying "It's Big Big Gabe!"
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1257 Posts
February 07 2024 15:16 GMT
#14
On February 07 2024 21:56 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 20:55 WombaT wrote:
On February 07 2024 18:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form

He’s just not that good and I look forward to him being eliminated so the casting talent don’t spend half a cast gushing about ‘Big Gabe’

Nah I am kidding, outside of the caster bashing part, genuinely my biggest pet hate in casting is most of the current roster doing a Heromarine game. Can definitely see him advancing for sure

The biggest troll happened when team BIG signed showtime instead of heromarine, denying the casters from saying "It's Big Big Gabe!"


Would have won over "Grubby|Grubby", but still behind Brian "Brian Kibler" Kibler of Brian Kibler Gaming
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HaPee
Profile Joined January 2016
3 Posts
February 07 2024 15:20 GMT
#15
"Stats -- Advance" if the other players surrender the match
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
February 07 2024 15:26 GMT
#16
In Stats we trust his PvT looked good vs Oliveira, minus a few things that he could realistically fix

SHIN/Bunny/Oliveira all have around the same odds of qualifying on paper, so the 3rd seed is hard to guess either way!
WriterMaru
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16033 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-07 15:30:57
February 07 2024 15:30 GMT
#17
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

He's Stats, if he prepares hard I can see him making some plays, like TY in the GSL.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
February 07 2024 15:57 GMT
#18
SHIN has been really good lately, I think he advances instead of Stats
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Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
February 07 2024 17:55 GMT
#19
On February 07 2024 21:56 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 20:55 WombaT wrote:
On February 07 2024 18:31 Poopi wrote:
On February 07 2024 18:09 Durnuu wrote:
Stats will be lucky if he doesn’t go 0-10

It's a very bold prediction indeed, but being the sole protoss in the group and the underdog can help him get through

On February 07 2024 18:22 BjoernK wrote:
Heromarine is in a little bit of a slump... His MMR is around 6700 while it was around 7000 a year ago. Still rooting for him

He seems far less dominant in ESL weeklies, but that's mainly due to Clem and MaxPax reaching new heights there, so I am still confident about his form

He’s just not that good and I look forward to him being eliminated so the casting talent don’t spend half a cast gushing about ‘Big Gabe’

Nah I am kidding, outside of the caster bashing part, genuinely my biggest pet hate in casting is most of the current roster doing a Heromarine game. Can definitely see him advancing for sure

The biggest troll happened when team BIG signed showtime instead of heromarine, denying the casters from saying "It's Big Big Gabe!"


They wanted to sign him, but he chose to stay at mousesports since they supported him for so long already at that time. He told that on his stream some years ago iirc.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-07 18:30:11
February 07 2024 18:29 GMT
#20
Great write-up, thanks Poopi! Unbelievable games in store for us.

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Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil272 Posts
February 07 2024 20:58 GMT
#21
Stats first, Shin and Bunny are gona go through. I believe
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3472 Posts
February 07 2024 21:13 GMT
#22
Protoss is trash vs. Terran and even Ragnarok is a difficult match for Stats. I don't think he has done anything noteworthy yet, and even coming back to a live setting is something that you need to get used to. But he was always the guy to punch above his weight. I'm specifically talking how his ladder mmr would always be super low, but still he would win tournaments.
Let's hope!
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manicantfindaname
Profile Joined January 2024
2 Posts
February 07 2024 22:03 GMT
#23
Oddly enough, I can see Stats upsetting the big guys in his group but losing to Bunny and SHIN (don't ask me why, it's pure intuition)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26237 Posts
February 08 2024 04:47 GMT
#24
I foresee the most contentious topic in LRs being the ‘it’s Rag’ versus ‘its SHIN’ divide.

#Rag4ever
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Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
354 Posts
February 08 2024 05:19 GMT
#25
On February 08 2024 13:47 WombaT wrote:
I foresee the most contentious topic in LRs being the ‘it’s Rag’ versus ‘its SHIN’ divide.

#Rag4ever


At least it's not SpeciaL's levels of " I change gaming names like I change sockets " !

Makes the Vanya/Rattata/Wayne changes absolutely paling in comparison :p
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 08 2024 05:22 GMT
#26
On February 08 2024 14:19 Philippe wrote:
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On February 08 2024 13:47 WombaT wrote:
I foresee the most contentious topic in LRs being the ‘it’s Rag’ versus ‘its SHIN’ divide.

#Rag4ever


At least it's not SpeciaL's levels of " I change gaming names like I change sockets " !

Makes the Vanya/Rattata/Wayne changes absolutely paling in comparison :p


Vanya was a pretty boss nickname. Rattata was definitely among the worst we've ever had. Wayne is definitely 4/10
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
February 08 2024 05:53 GMT
#27
On February 08 2024 13:47 WombaT wrote:
I foresee the most contentious topic in LRs being the ‘it’s Rag’ versus ‘its SHIN’ divide.

#Rag4ever

It's Heebeom
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26237 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-08 07:15:25
February 08 2024 07:08 GMT
#28
On February 08 2024 14:22 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2024 14:19 Philippe wrote:
On February 08 2024 13:47 WombaT wrote:
I foresee the most contentious topic in LRs being the ‘it’s Rag’ versus ‘its SHIN’ divide.

#Rag4ever


At least it's not SpeciaL's levels of " I change gaming names like I change sockets " !

Makes the Vanya/Rattata/Wayne changes absolutely paling in comparison :p


Vanya was a pretty boss nickname. Rattata was definitely among the worst we've ever had. Wayne is definitely 4/10

Rattata is just lame, I’m giving Wayne a solid 8, bordering a 9/10

It would be a 4 if he was called Wayne, or even from a culture where that’s a name, but it’s just so bizarre as a choice of nick.

In the same way the thought of someone naming their dog something like Nigel amuses me. It’s the kind of name that only 50 year old estate agents who enjoy collecting stamps have, it fits that guy but resolutely is not something a dog should be called.

In other nickname related chat, for me Major was probably his best nick, and I preferred TIME to Oliveira, but at least in terms of inspiring him to new heights that.

Zoun absolutely wins the award for most confusing nickname, although it was for me a fucking cool one. Nobody seemed able to decide on how it was actually pronounced, indeed I may be misremembering but apparently the correct manner is something Koreans actually struggle to say? Perhaps someone can fill me in on that!

Rag - SHIN is definitely the worst change of handle we’ve seen, going from a solid A, maybe S tier nick to one of the worst. I mean I imagine it means something in Korean or another language in mitigation, but to an English native it is absolutely ridiculous
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4960 Posts
February 08 2024 07:42 GMT
#29
I belive in Stats. Old is the new gold
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 08 2024 07:43 GMT
#30
On February 08 2024 16:08 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2024 14:22 Pandain wrote:
On February 08 2024 14:19 Philippe wrote:
On February 08 2024 13:47 WombaT wrote:
I foresee the most contentious topic in LRs being the ‘it’s Rag’ versus ‘its SHIN’ divide.

#Rag4ever


At least it's not SpeciaL's levels of " I change gaming names like I change sockets " !

Makes the Vanya/Rattata/Wayne changes absolutely paling in comparison :p


Vanya was a pretty boss nickname. Rattata was definitely among the worst we've ever had. Wayne is definitely 4/10

Rattata is just lame, I’m giving Wayne a solid 8, bordering a 9/10

It would be a 4 if he was called Wayne, or even from a culture where that’s a name, but it’s just so bizarre as a choice of nick.

In the same way the thought of someone naming their dog something like Nigel amuses me. It’s the kind of name that only 50 year old estate agents who enjoy collecting stamps have, it fits that guy but resolutely is not something a dog should be called.

In other nickname related chat, for me Major was probably his best nick, and I preferred TIME to Oliveira, but at least in terms of inspiring him to new heights that.

Zoun absolutely wins the award for most confusing nickname, although it was for me a fucking cool one. Nobody seemed able to decide on how it was actually pronounced, indeed I may be misremembering but apparently the correct manner is something Koreans actually struggle to say? Perhaps someone can fill me in on that!

Rag - SHIN is definitely the worst change of handle we’ve seen, going from a solid A, maybe S tier nick to one of the worst. I mean I imagine it means something in Korean or another language in mitigation, but to an English native it is absolutely ridiculous


Actually I thought he picked Wayne to be like Bruce Wayne - but if he really just picked it as a cool name I agree it then becomes pretty boss.

Time is definitely better than Oliveira.

I agree Zoun was one of the best.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
February 08 2024 08:37 GMT
#31
Stats isn’t getting through he plays Protoss.

Hoping the world champ can do the double.
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