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https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/starcraft2/24009150/starcraft-ii-5-0-12-patch-notes
En Taro Adun
With the new Patch 5.0.12 released today, we've tried to the accomplish the following goals,
Make Protoss more stable on a professional level in the early game vs Raven pushes and more able to fight Terran mid-late game armies without solely relying on Disruptors.
Increase the variety in the mid game and late game army compositions by reducing the strength of massed Ghosts, Banelings, and Disruptors.
Make over specialized units (Cyclones, Mothership, and Infestors) viable throughout more stages of the game.
Bring more visual clarity to important units on the minimap, as well as relevant abilities like Widow Mine targeting, and Disruptor's cooldown indicator.
Promote more interaction in late game scenarios, by making units such as Tempest, Mothership, and Brood Lord more maneuverable.
-StarCraft II Community Balance Council
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On September 21 2023 03:24 MM-yingxiong wrote:
is it ptr first or?
"With the new Patch 5.0.12 released today, we've tried to the accomplish the following goals,"
I read it as its live, doesnt mention PTR. I dont play the game myself , only watches so cant confirm sadly.
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I have a feeling protoss will perform even worse than before with this.
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So all the negative feedback got ignored and they released it like that? Including the cyclone? It will take a quick follow-up balance patch, the next tournaments are going to be a disaster.
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On September 21 2023 03:24 MM-yingxiong wrote:
is it ptr first or?
the notes looks very much PTR to me.
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I've always struggled against Cyclones, so am I totally screwed now?
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On September 21 2023 03:53 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
I've always struggled against Cyclones, so am I totally screwed now?
Yes, you are. Get ready to fight mass cyclone spam every ladder game.
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...what? So they basically kept all the changes and then also nerfed Hellbats for some reason?
Also love to see fixing the Void Ray bug moved from bug fixes to balance change in order to make it seem like they're actually buffing Protoss.
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nine ladder maps? cant remember TLMC has those maps Alcyone LE and Radhuset Station LE. must be renamed
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On September 21 2023 03:30 Elantris wrote:
I have a feeling protoss will perform even worse than before with this.
yup. disrupter was like the only good thing they had and now... we get to use storm and have slightly cheaper upgrades O.o
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On September 21 2023 04:30 nullrd wrote:
nine ladder maps? cant remember TLMC has those maps Alcyone LE and Radhuset Station LE. must be renamed
oh yeah isn't it normally 7? wtf
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On September 21 2023 03:31 Tsubbi wrote:
So all the negative feedback got ignored and they released it like that? Including the cyclone? It will take a quick follow-up balance patch, the next tournaments are going to be a disaster.
congrats to Maru for winning another GSL.
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The impression I got from virtually every pro commenting on the PTR changes was that the cyclone rework would never go through as it is. I even recall Harstem, who actually is on the balance council, making a remark to the effect that the change was more on the experimental side and probably will not go live. But now it did?
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I think these are good changes for toss and they will do a bit better in important tournaments
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On September 21 2023 04:38 {Frozen} wrote:
I think these are good changes for toss and they will do a bit better in important tournaments
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Russian Federation54 Posts
New 2v2 maps is exciting. old ones have not changed since forever, even though they are very good and I got used to them so much
Maybe new maps will revive 2v2 a bit, in like 2021-early 2022 it used to be just 1-2 minutes to find a 2v2 game on D1-M3 game, nowadays its 3-5 minutes on EU server
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On September 21 2023 04:38 Antithesis wrote:
The impression I got from virtually every pro commenting on the PTR changes was that the cyclone rework would never go through as it is. I even recall Harstem, who actually is on the balance council, making a remark to the effect that the change was more on the experimental side and probably will not go live. But now it did?
Yeah, Lambo heavily disliked them too.
Really strange, I thought the members of the balance council had to agree on the changes
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On September 21 2023 04:54 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2023 04:38 Antithesis wrote:
The impression I got from virtually every pro commenting on the PTR changes was that the cyclone rework would never go through as it is. I even recall Harstem, who actually is on the balance council, making a remark to the effect that the change was more on the experimental side and probably will not go live. But now it did? Yeah, Lambo heavily disliked them too. Really strange, I thought the members of the balance council had to agree on the changes
Seems to be pretty opaque even for the people directly involved.
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On September 21 2023 05:08 QOGQOG wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2023 04:54 Charoisaur wrote:On September 21 2023 04:38 Antithesis wrote:
The impression I got from virtually every pro commenting on the PTR changes was that the cyclone rework would never go through as it is. I even recall Harstem, who actually is on the balance council, making a remark to the effect that the change was more on the experimental side and probably will not go live. But now it did? Yeah, Lambo heavily disliked them too. Really strange, I thought the members of the balance council had to agree on the changes Seems to be pretty opaque even for the people directly involved.
harstem likes the changes.
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