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Oliveira unable to attend ESL Summer + ESL response - Page 3

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Update: ESL's Alex007 has given an official response: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/612805-oliveira-unable-to-attend-esl-summer?page=5#93
huckfinne1
Profile Joined June 2023
Australia3 Posts
June 13 2023 23:45 GMT
#41
Game starts before gaming.
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
June 13 2023 23:59 GMT
#42
This is horrible to read. Fuck that stuff.
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1615 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-14 01:08:02
June 14 2023 00:45 GMT
#43
why does he need a visa? just go as a tourist for vacation and dont disclose that you will be making money. ez.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Gottingen
Profile Joined February 2018
United States27 Posts
June 14 2023 00:49 GMT
#44
On June 14 2023 09:45 CicadaSC wrote:
why does he need a visit? just go as a tourist for vacation and dont disclose that you will be making money. ez.

its actually not proper to do but i get ur point...

ESL F it up btw
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
June 14 2023 00:55 GMT
#45
On June 14 2023 02:46 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 02:24 geokilla wrote:
ESL has always been a shit show. People say having Apollo at ESL is going to do great things for the scene but I beg to differ. CS:GO scene is pretty bad as well.


this, ESL has always been a mess, it s kinda sad they dont seem to learn from it and improve but I can't say I m surprised. It sucks for the players involved though

The sad part is they don't need to as they have a monopoly in the SC2 scene and a duopoly in CS:GO. They're big and established enough that they just need to buy out the competition with the Saudi money.
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States277 Posts
June 14 2023 00:58 GMT
#46
On June 14 2023 09:45 CicadaSC wrote:
why does he need a visit? just go as a tourist for vacation and dont disclose that you will be making money. ez.


If he does that, it means he will never able to travel to that country again.
Evilmj
Profile Joined December 2021
China103 Posts
June 14 2023 01:13 GMT
#47
On June 14 2023 09:45 CicadaSC wrote:
why does he need a visa? just go as a tourist for vacation and dont disclose that you will be making money. ez.

You should know what happens when you cheat your way into the country with a visa for the wrong reasons.
ChevalierHu
Profile Joined May 2019
9 Posts
June 14 2023 01:48 GMT
#48
This is completely an issue with the ESL staff
loginnow
Profile Joined June 2023
4 Posts
June 14 2023 02:20 GMT
#49
Big mistake by esl. They should do something.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1140 Posts
June 14 2023 02:21 GMT
#50
If this truely is on ESL, it is a pretty big blunder that definetly not only warrants a public apology, but also some sort of statement how they will prevent such things in the future.
However, it should be very clear that there will be no online play. Never try to clean up a mess with another mess. It should also be somewhat clear that IF they decide to replace players, it will be with EU players - who else to get on such short notice to Sweden? Though it would probably be better to just leave the slots open and fill them through the Open Bracket.

And while reading the comments: Never forget, you don't have to watch ESL events. Just watch any other big offline tournament organised and paid for by someone else. Like...oh.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
June 14 2023 02:21 GMT
#51
Honestly disgraceful, imagine having the reigning world champion forfeit because your staff hadn’t bothered to help make sure he got the visa in time.
FKESL
Profile Joined June 2023
1 Post
June 14 2023 02:47 GMT
#52
ESL这工作能力是真的菜。。。

User was warned for this post
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3353 Posts
June 14 2023 02:53 GMT
#53
The only way ESL can salvage this is to convince MaxPax to show up in person on the stage, lol. But yeah, we all know that ESL F this one up big time, but I dont think they even care that much at this point.
loginnow
Profile Joined June 2023
4 Posts
June 14 2023 02:57 GMT
#54
My world champion can't participate in the game because of esl's stupid mistake。
esl i love your mom
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-14 03:13:31
June 14 2023 03:12 GMT
#55
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.
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Evilmj
Profile Joined December 2021
China103 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-14 03:30:17
June 14 2023 03:17 GMT
#56
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I

ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
June 14 2023 03:25 GMT
#57
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I
ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.


You have got to be kidding me...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
June 14 2023 03:27 GMT
#58
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I
ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.


Jesus freaking christ
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msga
Profile Joined June 2023
1 Post
June 14 2023 03:32 GMT
#59
It is a pity that oliveria can't go to the match.The qusetion is ESL should send the invitation at MAY 23 or 24 .Even if don't talk about should we simplify the complex process of the Swiss round competition to make players have more time to apply for the visa,ESL need to be responsible for it's delaying and admit his mistake,which apologizes to Chinese players for can't make the world champion show in the match.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4184 Posts
June 14 2023 05:55 GMT
#60
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I

ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.

no way.. is this real..? seriously?

wow....
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