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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
875 Posts
March 21 2022 12:21 GMT
#141
Damned for sure this fuck*** bunker is too small
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
March 21 2022 12:27 GMT
#142
On March 21 2022 21:13 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Well, Dream got last place today in his group in the GSL. Another Terran out of the GSL.

Context: Classic and Dark advancing was the outcome predicted by Aligulac as per the GSL preview.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
totemjack
Profile Joined March 2022
5 Posts
March 25 2022 12:12 GMT
#143
On February 28 2022 07:19 Nebuchad wrote:
I know threads like these look infuriating but you have to remember, xelnaga doesn't believe what he says himself. He knows that protoss is doing worse than terran. Nobody truly believes that protoss will do better than terran in the next ten or twenty tournaments assuming no patch. This isn't a case where reality needs to be explained to him, this is just a case where reality is already known, and is being ignored.


The statistics show for Premier tournaments that Protoss did better than Terran. This is a textbook example of, "if you don't have the facts on your side, pound the table."
xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-31 11:40:08
March 31 2022 11:38 GMT
#144
Ughh, that Creator vs Gumiho late game in the GSL today. There was nothing Gumiho could do against late game Protoss as Terran. Gumiho even went BCs, but that didn't work either. Gumiho had all the tier 3 Terran units with ghosts and BCs, but late game Protoss army cannot be stopped by Terran.

User was warned for this post.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-31 12:06:47
March 31 2022 12:05 GMT
#145
On March 31 2022 20:38 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Ughh, that Creator vs Gumiho late game in the GSL today. There was nothing Gumiho could do against late game Protoss as Terran. Gumiho even went BCs, but that didn't work either. Gumiho had all the tier 3 Terran units with ghosts and BCs, but late game Protoss army cannot be stopped by Terran.

Ryung did it with just Marine Ghost



yeah I know that was because Zest fucked up, just joking


but complaining about TvP balance from the terran perspective right now is pretty ridicolous
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
totemjack
Profile Joined March 2022
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-04 14:48:43
April 04 2022 14:48 GMT
#146
On March 31 2022 21:05 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2022 20:38 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Ughh, that Creator vs Gumiho late game in the GSL today. There was nothing Gumiho could do against late game Protoss as Terran. Gumiho even went BCs, but that didn't work either. Gumiho had all the tier 3 Terran units with ghosts and BCs, but late game Protoss army cannot be stopped by Terran.

Ryung did it with just Marine Ghost



yeah I know that was because Zest fucked up, just joking


Actually, Zest did fuck up. He didn't make any disruptors. Tastosis were also questioning why Zest didn't make any disruptors.

And when Ryung turtled, Zest could have built shield batteries and cannons outsides Ryung's base, like Trap did. Go watch Trap again in the GSL vod from last week, and how Trap built shield batteries and cannons against Gumiho who was turtling.

That's two things Zest didn't do against Ryung: make disruptors, or build shield batteries/cannons outside Ryung's base.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
April 04 2022 15:02 GMT
#147
On April 04 2022 23:48 totemjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2022 21:05 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 31 2022 20:38 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Ughh, that Creator vs Gumiho late game in the GSL today. There was nothing Gumiho could do against late game Protoss as Terran. Gumiho even went BCs, but that didn't work either. Gumiho had all the tier 3 Terran units with ghosts and BCs, but late game Protoss army cannot be stopped by Terran.

Ryung did it with just Marine Ghost



yeah I know that was because Zest fucked up, just joking


Actually, Zest did fuck up. He didn't make any disruptors. Tastosis were also questioning why Zest didn't make any disruptors.

And when Ryung turtled, Zest could have built shield batteries and cannons outsides Ryung's base, like Trap did. Go watch Trap again in the GSL vod from last week, and how Trap built shield batteries and cannons against Gumiho who was turtling.

That's two things Zest didn't do against Ryung: make disruptors, or build shield batteries/cannons outside Ryung's base.

I know that, that's why I said I was joking, obviously I don't think Marine Ghost is the answer for TvP Lategame
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7154 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-05 09:55:44
April 05 2022 09:54 GMT
#148
This whole Terran is weak thing is kinda ridiculous. TY and Inno left and since then Terran wins took a huge blow. Cure just isn't up to par (yet?) in offline events. Bunny / Dream/ Gumi are not S class players. Byun still has occasional wrist problems.
Ryung does great, though. Maybe he can fill the void
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-05 10:08:54
April 05 2022 10:07 GMT
#149
On March 31 2022 20:38 xelnaga_empire wrote:
Ughh, that Creator vs Gumiho late game in the GSL today. There was nothing Gumiho could do against late game Protoss as Terran. Gumiho even went BCs, but that didn't work either. Gumiho had all the tier 3 Terran units with ghosts and BCs, but late game Protoss army cannot be stopped by Terran.

User was warned for this post.


Gumiho made a game ending mistake in the last battle: He didn't yamato immediately after jumping his BCs, which is like the whole point of jumping on top in the first place.

He only Yamato'd with like 3-4 BCs at the end of the fight, which didn't really kill anything since they weren't even target firing and the batteries were healing.

If you wait even *one* second before Yamato'ing after jumping, it can make the difference between winning the fight with several BCs alive or losing the fight with several Tempests alive.

In a straight up fight on equal supply, BC jump -> yamato always beats carrier/tempest.
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totemjack
Profile Joined March 2022
5 Posts
April 18 2022 13:57 GMT
#150
Terran did so bad today in the GSL. And Maru is in last place in his group. Hopefully, the balance team made up of pro gamers are watching the results and will adjust the balance if this performance for Terran continues.

On the other hand, Trap did very well in his group, coming in as #1 in his group, even beating Rogue in the process.
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
April 18 2022 14:03 GMT
#151
Terran has been quite obviously the weakest race for a very long time. When Maru hasn't been carrying the race it's obvious that the Terran pros just can't win vs Zerg in particular.
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-18 15:50:29
April 18 2022 15:48 GMT
#152
Terran just needs to l2p and git gud

Instead of whining and complaining asking for handouts.

Patch terran cure already had the best results in his career thanks to new patch a couple years ago.

Proxy boy Maru won all his GSL due to proxy patch. Before that he was a GSL gatekeeper
No proxy no win

They already have all the best tools in the game to deal with everything (I.e ghosts)

User was warned for this post.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
April 18 2022 16:23 GMT
#153
If Terrans have any problems atm I think solely the maps are to blame
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
April 18 2022 16:44 GMT
#154
Now the Toss are coming in beating their chest and call Terran OP is just hillarious.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
April 18 2022 18:33 GMT
#155
zergs listening to terran and protoss argue over the other being imba

meanwhile the best terran players in the world stand no chance vs good zergs outside of a huge fuckup or cheesing
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 18 2022 18:57 GMT
#156
On April 18 2022 22:57 totemjack wrote:
Terran did so bad today in the GSL. And Maru is in last place in his group. Hopefully, the balance team made up of pro gamers are watching the results and will adjust the balance if this performance for Terran continues.

On the other hand, Trap did very well in his group, coming in as #1 in his group, even beating Rogue in the process.


Did they? Give Byun's wrists another pair of minutes of solace and you have one Terran advancing.

Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-18 19:02:32
April 18 2022 19:01 GMT
#157
On April 19 2022 03:57 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2022 22:57 totemjack wrote:
Terran did so bad today in the GSL. And Maru is in last place in his group. Hopefully, the balance team made up of pro gamers are watching the results and will adjust the balance if this performance for Terran continues.

On the other hand, Trap did very well in his group, coming in as #1 in his group, even beating Rogue in the process.


Did they? Give Byun's wrists another pair of minutes of solace and you have one Terran advancing.


Isn’t it part of the problem though? Terran being balanced around mechanical gods which have more troubles keeping their body healthy.
For example afaik only PartinG has had publicly known huge issues and he is playing a peculiar style of Protoss that is probably more taxing than what other Protoss do
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 18 2022 19:05 GMT
#158
No, I wouldn't say that this was the issue being discussed here.
It also seems Byun's problem are psychological.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18275 Posts
April 18 2022 20:11 GMT
#159
On April 19 2022 04:01 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2022 03:57 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2022 22:57 totemjack wrote:
Terran did so bad today in the GSL. And Maru is in last place in his group. Hopefully, the balance team made up of pro gamers are watching the results and will adjust the balance if this performance for Terran continues.

On the other hand, Trap did very well in his group, coming in as #1 in his group, even beating Rogue in the process.


Did they? Give Byun's wrists another pair of minutes of solace and you have one Terran advancing.


Isn’t it part of the problem though? Terran being balanced around mechanical gods which have more troubles keeping their body healthy.
For example afaik only PartinG has had publicly known huge issues and he is playing a peculiar style of Protoss that is probably more taxing than what other Protoss do

Dark was out for a year due to wrist issues. TLO quit because of his wrists... I'm sure there's others.

Anyway, people get Carpal Tunnel from making Excel spreadsheets or programming Java. Insofar as anybody knows it has very little to do with how much you move a mouse/keyboard and a LOT with how long you sit in front of a computer and in what posture.
Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
227 Posts
April 18 2022 23:56 GMT
#160
On April 19 2022 05:11 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2022 04:01 Poopi wrote:
On April 19 2022 03:57 Xain0n wrote:
On April 18 2022 22:57 totemjack wrote:
Terran did so bad today in the GSL. And Maru is in last place in his group. Hopefully, the balance team made up of pro gamers are watching the results and will adjust the balance if this performance for Terran continues.

On the other hand, Trap did very well in his group, coming in as #1 in his group, even beating Rogue in the process.


Did they? Give Byun's wrists another pair of minutes of solace and you have one Terran advancing.


Isn’t it part of the problem though? Terran being balanced around mechanical gods which have more troubles keeping their body healthy.
For example afaik only PartinG has had publicly known huge issues and he is playing a peculiar style of Protoss that is probably more taxing than what other Protoss do

Dark was out for a year due to wrist issues. TLO quit because of his wrists... I'm sure there's others.

Anyway, people get Carpal Tunnel from making Excel spreadsheets or programming Java. Insofar as anybody knows it has very little to do with how much you move a mouse/keyboard and a LOT with how long you sit in front of a computer and in what posture.


Among the small population size of pro-gamers, Terrans are over-represented in injuries.

From my own anecdote, I experience more fatigue in the arms when playing SC2 as opposed to Diablo 2. In fact, I switch to D2 when im feeling tired for a more relaxed pace of gaming.
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