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Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
195 Posts
April 19 2022 03:10 GMT
#161
What on earth are you guys on about? Neither Zerg nor Terran have had lack of wins or presence in any tournament in SC2 for years. The only race that ever truly struggled has been Protoss now close this stupid thread its a waste of time
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
April 19 2022 03:50 GMT
#162
On April 19 2022 12:10 Drahkn wrote:
What on earth are you guys on about? Neither Zerg nor Terran have had lack of wins or presence in any tournament in SC2 for years. The only race that ever truly struggled has been Protoss now close this stupid thread its a waste of time


Protoss still needs more nerfs.
THERIDDLER
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada126 Posts
April 19 2022 06:24 GMT
#163
On April 19 2022 12:10 Drahkn wrote:
What on earth are you guys on about? Neither Zerg nor Terran have had lack of wins or presence in any tournament in SC2 for years. The only race that ever truly struggled has been Protoss now close this stupid thread its a waste of time


Protoss players who are unable to count unironically believes this.
Please don't fricken hack, its just a game.
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
April 19 2022 09:11 GMT
#164
Issue is with neither Terran nor Protoss its always been the Zerg design and the maps and how the 2 work hand in hand. And newsflash - neither is getting solved because its too late to adjust game design and everyone wants standard maps (standard = most of the time good for Zerg).

Also its not possible to blame the DEVs or anything like that. No-one could have known what the skill caps for the races will be due to base design, the players needed to get super good first. So its really only the last 5 years or so we see the huge disparity. Maybe LOTV economy change contributed to that as well, thats again biggest advantage to Zerg.

Think its time to stop taking the game and the competitive scene as seriously. It has not been a completely fair competition for quite some time now so we could have gone used to it already. Just enjoy the games while we still have a competitive scene
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xelnaga_empire
Profile Joined March 2012
627 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-04-19 10:34:47
April 19 2022 10:34 GMT
#165
On April 19 2022 12:10 Drahkn wrote:
What on earth are you guys on about? Neither Zerg nor Terran have had lack of wins or presence in any tournament in SC2 for years. The only race that ever truly struggled has been Protoss now close this stupid thread its a waste of time


This is not true though. Look at the very first post of this thread. Protoss had better results in 2021 to 2022 Premier tournaments than Terran did.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3531 Posts
April 19 2022 12:57 GMT
#166
On April 19 2022 19:34 xelnaga_empire wrote:
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On April 19 2022 12:10 Drahkn wrote:
What on earth are you guys on about? Neither Zerg nor Terran have had lack of wins or presence in any tournament in SC2 for years. The only race that ever truly struggled has been Protoss now close this stupid thread its a waste of time


This is not true though. Look at the very first post of this thread. Protoss had better results in 2021 to 2022 Premier tournaments than Terran did.

And if you follow the thread you can see that this fact is only a fact as it counts NA as premier and not e.g. the last 2 King of battle tournaments (and other reasons to why arguing this is stupid + zerg is the problem in the end)
dph114
Profile Joined May 2022
30 Posts
May 02 2022 09:07 GMT
#167
as a longtime sc2 terran player, i have retired from sc2 long time ago (bunch of times actually) i keep coming back and coping that zerg is op (and protoss is as well), but the truth to be told i picked terran because i though it was most op race, thats basically the reason i picked it in WoL. Is it still Op? Who knows, but i sure as hell will never admit that terran is op. Zerg and Toss is OP.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3481 Posts
May 02 2022 11:43 GMT
#168
Is it rly fair to count america tourneys, I wouldn't say Neeb, Astrea and Scarlett are dominating. If you discount these then the tallies become:
Z: 20
P: 12
T: 10
On the nose this might seem broken, but lets look at unique victories: this shows us how many players have shown that they are capable of achieving victory with each race.
Z: 5
P: 3
T: 3
Now it doesn't look as bad. Then what if we look at only victories, counting all tournament wins:
Z: 10
P: 6
T: 5
Again counting only victories Terran is slighty on the lowest end. Now lets do only victories and unique players:
Z: 5
P: 2
T: 3
Well now Protoss is the worst performer. This isn't to say that this is the most important stat of the aforementioned. But if we count how many Protoss have actually showed that they are capable of achieving victories, then the stat for Protoss is absolutely abbysmal.

The thing is depending on which stats you chose to look at, you can get different results, we could also tinker with the time frame.
How about this stat: the last time Protoss won vs a Terran in a finals was Classic defeating GuMiho in 2019!
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
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