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New EPT prize pool announced for 2021 and 2022

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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 01 2021 14:55 GMT
#1
When it was announced that the EPT World Championship at IEM Katowice 2021 would be held online due to the covid-19 pandemic, ESL also announced that the prize pool would be cut in half, from $500,000 to $250,000, and that the money saved would instead be allocated to other EPT tournaments. ESL has now announced how those funds will be divided.

The three instalments of the DH Masters tour (Summer, Fall, Winter) will each see its prize pool increased by $41,000 both this year and next year. This added prize money will be allocated to the regional qualification tournaments (Europe, NA, etc) and thus not to the main Season Finals tournaments.

The DH Masters Last Chance tournaments will also see a minor increase in prize pool: the first place finisher will receive an additional $2,000, taking the first prize to a total of $10,000.

The prize money taken from the global tournament IEM Katowice will thus not be added to other global tournaments, meaning players' opportunity to compete for this prize pool will be determined by which region they belong to, and Korean players will not be able to compete for any, save the relatively tiny amount added to the DH Masters Last Chance first prize.

ESL also confirmed that the tournaments at IEM Katowice in 2022 as well as 2023 will each have a total prize pool of $500,000.

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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3445 Posts
April 01 2021 15:27 GMT
#2
On April 01 2021 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:


The three instalments of the DH Masters tour (Summer, Fall, Winter) will each see its prize pool increased by $41,000 both this year and next year. This added prize money will be allocated to the regional qualification tournaments (Europe, NA, etc) and thus not to the main Season Finals tournaments.


source


Could someone confirm this? I thought the additional prize is added into the Global Season Final, not the Regional.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-01 16:45:24
April 01 2021 16:43 GMT
#3
On April 02 2021 00:27 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2021 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:


The three instalments of the DH Masters tour (Summer, Fall, Winter) will each see its prize pool increased by $41,000 both this year and next year. This added prize money will be allocated to the regional qualification tournaments (Europe, NA, etc) and thus not to the main Season Finals tournaments.


source


Could someone confirm this? I thought the additional prize is added into the Global Season Final, not the Regional.

Dude, you literally quoted it with the source link, can you check yourself?

Considering I don't know what the previous prizes were for the regional finals, but it appears so.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 01 2021 16:54 GMT
#4
On April 02 2021 00:27 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2021 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:


The three instalments of the DH Masters tour (Summer, Fall, Winter) will each see its prize pool increased by $41,000 both this year and next year. This added prize money will be allocated to the regional qualification tournaments (Europe, NA, etc) and thus not to the main Season Finals tournaments.


source


Could someone confirm this? I thought the additional prize is added into the Global Season Final, not the Regional.


I compared the updated prize pools with the ones from a couple of months ago, using archive.org. There were no changes for season finals, only for regional tournaments.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
April 01 2021 17:25 GMT
#5
It's pretty messed up for Koreans that it is going to the regional finals only especially considering that where it was pulled from a sizable portion if not the majority would have gone to Korean players.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
April 01 2021 17:31 GMT
#6
On April 02 2021 02:25 JJH777 wrote:
It's pretty messed up for Koreans that it is going to the regional finals only especially considering that where it was pulled from a sizable portion if not the majority would have gone to Korean players.


Yah this is insanely unfair
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 01 2021 17:37 GMT
#7
ESL - guys, we will solve the map pool
Community - yay for ESL
ESL - guys, do you remember how removed 250k USD from the international Katowice? Now we moved the money internationally everywhere EXCEPT Korea!
Community - this can't be true, say again?

Well played, ESL, well played.
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
April 01 2021 17:48 GMT
#8
Doesn't look like an April Fools' joke to me. Hurray! I'd like to see Rogue, Serral or Maru finally eclipse that $1 million mark earned in prize money. Wonder who will get there first and when, maybe early or late 2022.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3445 Posts
April 01 2021 17:54 GMT
#9
On April 02 2021 01:43 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2021 00:27 tigera6 wrote:
On April 01 2021 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:


The three instalments of the DH Masters tour (Summer, Fall, Winter) will each see its prize pool increased by $41,000 both this year and next year. This added prize money will be allocated to the regional qualification tournaments (Europe, NA, etc) and thus not to the main Season Finals tournaments.


source


Could someone confirm this? I thought the additional prize is added into the Global Season Final, not the Regional.

Dude, you literally quoted it with the source link, can you check yourself?

Considering I don't know what the previous prizes were for the regional finals, but it appears so.


Sorry for not elaborating, but I already checked and find that the prize pool showed in the link is about the same with the prize pool of the DH Tournament in 2020, both for Global and Regional tournament. That means the additional 41k hasnt been added into those prize pool yet. Thats why I said if someone can confirm this because it seems the information is still lacking
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
April 01 2021 17:56 GMT
#10
On April 02 2021 02:54 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2021 01:43 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 02 2021 00:27 tigera6 wrote:
On April 01 2021 23:55 sneakyfox wrote:


The three instalments of the DH Masters tour (Summer, Fall, Winter) will each see its prize pool increased by $41,000 both this year and next year. This added prize money will be allocated to the regional qualification tournaments (Europe, NA, etc) and thus not to the main Season Finals tournaments.


source


Could someone confirm this? I thought the additional prize is added into the Global Season Final, not the Regional.

Dude, you literally quoted it with the source link, can you check yourself?

Considering I don't know what the previous prizes were for the regional finals, but it appears so.


Sorry for not elaborating, but I already checked and find that the prize pool showed in the link is about the same with the prize pool of the DH Tournament in 2020, both for Global and Regional tournament. That means the additional 41k hasnt been added into those prize pool yet. Thats why I said if someone can confirm this because it seems the information is still lacking


you can find the old prize distros in the "history" section of any of the relevant liquipedia pages: (Wiki)index.php?title=ESL Pro Tour/2021/22/Masters/Summer/EU&oldid=1876747
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 01 2021 19:21 GMT
#11
On April 02 2021 02:31 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2021 02:25 JJH777 wrote:
It's pretty messed up for Koreans that it is going to the regional finals only especially considering that where it was pulled from a sizable portion if not the majority would have gone to Korean players.


Yah this is insanely unfair


And since it would have been very easy to just add (at least part of) the prize money to the Season Finals tournaments, this has to be completely intentional by ESL. Why do they want it this way??
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-01 19:56:58
April 01 2021 19:54 GMT
#12
On April 02 2021 04:21 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2021 02:31 Waxangel wrote:
On April 02 2021 02:25 JJH777 wrote:
It's pretty messed up for Koreans that it is going to the regional finals only especially considering that where it was pulled from a sizable portion if not the majority would have gone to Korean players.


Yah this is insanely unfair


And since it would have been very easy to just add (at least part of) the prize money to the Season Finals tournaments, this has to be completely intentional by ESL. Why do they want it this way??

1) Koreans are silent on social media. (e.g. region lock)
2) Korean support is frormed by a small but dedicated group
3) Most of their followers support foreigners

In combination of these points they just simply bet that the uproar will be small and plenty of people will defend them, because foreigner fan base on the social media appears to be bigger.

Simple math, really.

I would love to be wrong though.

Edit> Also why invest into the Korean scene when there are good players, but the scene is on a life support and will implode once Blizz takes away the money. Foreign audience is bigger. So they simply decided to take away the Korean money and support foreigners.

So, what new title we have for Apollo now?
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vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
April 01 2021 20:08 GMT
#13
Doesn't this mean that at least some Koreans will benefit from this:

GSL & EPT INTEGRATION
Starting from the 2021/2022 season, players competing within the GSL will also be able to compete within the ESL Pro Tour. The best performing 6 players from the GSL will earn qualification to compete at the subsequent DreamHack SC2 Masters competition & upon the return of DreamHack festivals will also be able to travel & compete within the respective tournament open brackets.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-01 20:15:32
April 01 2021 20:14 GMT
#14
On April 02 2021 05:08 vyzion wrote:
Doesn't this mean that at least some Koreans will benefit from this:

GSL & EPT INTEGRATION
Starting from the 2021/2022 season, players competing within the GSL will also be able to compete within the ESL Pro Tour. The best performing 6 players from the GSL will earn qualification to compete at the subsequent DreamHack SC2 Masters competition & upon the return of DreamHack festivals will also be able to travel & compete within the respective tournament open brackets.

No, the events mentioned in that paragraph receive 0 % of what was cut from Katowice and are basically the DH Masters we already had. So they were already open to Koreans to begin with.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 01 2021 21:28 GMT
#15
On April 02 2021 05:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2021 05:08 vyzion wrote:
Doesn't this mean that at least some Koreans will benefit from this:

GSL & EPT INTEGRATION
Starting from the 2021/2022 season, players competing within the GSL will also be able to compete within the ESL Pro Tour. The best performing 6 players from the GSL will earn qualification to compete at the subsequent DreamHack SC2 Masters competition & upon the return of DreamHack festivals will also be able to travel & compete within the respective tournament open brackets.

No, the events mentioned in that paragraph receive 0 % of what was cut from Katowice and are basically the DH Masters we already had. So they were already open to Koreans to begin with.

Didn't the OP write they increased the prize pool of some of the international tourneys by 2k? That's 0,8 % going there!
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
April 02 2021 00:46 GMT
#16
Koreans shafted once again...
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 02 2021 00:59 GMT
#17
Apollo knows there's no need to help Korea cus their scene is healthy as fuck.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
April 02 2021 01:41 GMT
#18
Oh come the fuck on, give the Korean scene a hand here?

I mean can Blizzard’s intern not manage a war chest for the GSL? I’d be happy to directly support those tournaments which are really low-paying for the calibre of player there, screw getting a skin or anything.

Just some mechanism where we could put our collective money where our mouths are, I’d happily chip in.

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buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-02 01:49:36
April 02 2021 01:49 GMT
#19
That's insanely unfair to the Koreans if this is true. They are shafted again and again. Everything is stacked against them. We need to speak up more for them and against this terrible arrangement. This isn't the first time, and I don't think it'll be the last either.
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland524 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-02 04:03:58
April 02 2021 03:59 GMT
#20
Isn't this kind of natural reaction to people wanting flatter price distribution? Putting money on the regional events is better in that regard, than putting it to seasonal finals.They of course could increase GSL price pool too, but GSL is mostly run by AfreecaTV making it bit odd to ESL to increase prestige of event not mainly run by them. Also I could see possible issues how the contracts work between all parties. On another note how much is there to gain from pumping money in Korean scene while knowing its current state. Remember that GSL had to move from 32 players to 24 players this year. Increased price pool would most likely not fix issue of Koreans having low interest in SC2 or increase amount of new competitors.
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