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UPDATE
The following can also be found on Liquipedia at User:CynicalDeath/sandbox/2. (The display varies a bit, but the information is the same as of 2020-12-10, we will update that page though!)
Mathematically qualified to the Ro24
KR- TY
- Rogue
- Maru
- Stats (possibly military???)
- INnoVation
- Trap
- Zest (possibly military???)
- Cure (Cure can theoretically still not qualify via the KR Standings, but in that case he is mathematically safe to qualify to the Ro24 via the Combined Standings.)
EULatAmCN
Mathematically qualified to the Ro36, but can still qualify to the Ro24
KR- PartinG
- Dark
- Solar
- DongRaeGu
- Armani
EUNA
Qualified to the Ro36
Asia
At the moment in a Ro36 seed and can still qualify to Ro24
KREUNA
At the moment in Ro36 seeds
KR- Dream
- Hurricane
- Bunny
- RagnaroK
EULatAmOC
Can (theoretically) still qualify
KR (only Koreans listed) ByuN*, Zoun, Patience, TaeJa, Creator, Bomber, Prince, Spear, NaTuRal, Super, kiwian
EU Lambo*, MaNa*, MarineLorD, PtitDrogo, SKillous, Gerald, Vanya, Denver, souL, Bly, Hellraiser, Harstem, Stephano
NA Future
LatAm, CN and OC Everyone from these regions can theoretically still qualify for the Ro36. But one is safe to assume that none of these players will achieve many points from the DHM Last Chance event nor win many ESL Open Cups, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*: has a somewhat realistic chance
Combined Standings Shenanigans Apart from several Koreans theoretically the following 3 players could also still qualify to the Ro24 via the Combined Standing Shenanigans:For more information take a look at our Combined Standings page: ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Standings/Combined
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Since there is no LR thread yet
+ Show Spoiler +Protoss OP confirmed: Parting 3:0 TY Stats 3:2 Inno Trap 3:0 Maru Don't take it too serious ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
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Damn, Bunny qualifying after wins over Byun and Maru, thats big
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Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points.
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On December 11 2020 03:32 Shathe wrote: Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points.
Might have gotten Dark and Solar that Ro24 seed secured but other than that, I don't see any real changes?
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On December 11 2020 17:52 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2020 03:32 Shathe wrote: Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points. Might have gotten Dark and Solar that Ro24 seed secured but other than that, I don't see any real changes?
The orig rules had it so that everyone that played in ST1 would have gotten points, EXCEPT the top4, they were supposed to only get the invite to GSL S1
So for Dark and Solar it would have had a negative effect, not a positive one.
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On December 12 2020 01:21 hjpalpha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2020 17:52 Harris1st wrote:On December 11 2020 03:32 Shathe wrote: Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points. Might have gotten Dark and Solar that Ro24 seed secured but other than that, I don't see any real changes? The orig rules had it so that everyone that played in ST1 would have gotten points, EXCEPT the top4, they were supposed to only get the invite to GSL S1 So for Dark and Solar it would have had a negative effect, not a positive one. Yeah, but the originall rules were the dumbest thing ever seen, so I gues Harris was referring to a "normal" standart, reasonable point allocation, similar to ST 2. IMO that would have been way way WAY better than both what is in place now and what was suggested first..
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On December 18 2020 19:15 hjpalpha wrote:For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open: - Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
- Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
- Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
- In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
- In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.
So except for the extremely unlikely scenario where Zoun wins almost all the open cups, the Last Chance tournament offers no last chances at all?
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On December 18 2020 19:43 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2020 19:15 hjpalpha wrote:For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open: - Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
- Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
- Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
- In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
- In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.
So except for the extremely unlikely scenario where Zoun wins almost all the open cups, the Last Chance tournament offers no last chances at all?
thats ironic. I guess comes next Monday, when mathematical chances will no longer exist, the Last Chance will officially become the "Just play for money, bro" tournament
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On December 18 2020 20:02 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2020 19:43 Zzzapper wrote:On December 18 2020 19:15 hjpalpha wrote:For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open: - Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
- Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
- Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
- In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
- In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.
So except for the extremely unlikely scenario where Zoun wins almost all the open cups, the Last Chance tournament offers no last chances at all? thats ironic. I guess comes next Monday, when mathematical chances will no longer exist, the Last Chance will officially become the "Just play for money, bro" tournament
Last Chance Qualifiers were significant regarding Qualification, the event itself will not change anything (because of how the Qualifiers went) regarding this. It might shuffle the standings a bit though (as in for the seeding during IEM) but it will not change who qualified.
Also CN and OC will not be mathematically determined on Monday (OC one week later and CN with the last set of ESL Open Cups that give points toward the 2020/21 Standings)
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