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hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany229 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-10 19:07:26
December 10 2020 07:41 GMT
#61
UPDATE

The following can also be found on Liquipedia at (Wiki)User:CynicalDeath/sandbox/2. (The display varies a bit, but the information is the same as of 2020-12-10, we will update that page though!)

Mathematically qualified to the Ro24

KR
  • TY
  • Rogue
  • Maru
  • Stats (possibly military???)
  • INnoVation
  • Trap
  • Zest (possibly military???)
  • Cure (Cure can theoretically still not qualify via the KR Standings, but in that case he is mathematically safe to qualify to the Ro24 via the Combined Standings.)
EU
  • Reynor
  • Serral
  • Clem
LatAm
  • SpeCial
CN
  • TIME


Mathematically qualified to the Ro36, but can still qualify to the Ro24

KR
  • PartinG
  • Dark
  • Solar
  • DongRaeGu
  • Armani
EU
  • Big Gabe
  • ShoWTimE
NA
  • Astrea
  • Neeb


Qualified to the Ro36

Asia
  • Nice
  • Has


At the moment in a Ro36 seed and can still qualify to Ro24

KR
  • sOs
EU
  • Elazer
NA
  • Scarlett


At the moment in Ro36 seeds

KR
  • Dream
  • Hurricane
  • Bunny
  • RagnaroK
EU
  • uThermal
LatAm
  • Kelazhur
OC
  • Probe


Can (theoretically) still qualify

KR (only Koreans listed)
ByuN*, Zoun, Patience, TaeJa, Creator, Bomber, Prince, Spear, NaTuRal, Super, kiwian

EU
Lambo*, MaNa*, MarineLorD, PtitDrogo, SKillous, Gerald, Vanya, Denver, souL, Bly, Hellraiser, Harstem, Stephano

NA
Future

LatAm, CN and OC
Everyone from these regions can theoretically still qualify for the Ro36. But one is safe to assume that none of these players will achieve many points from the DHM Last Chance event nor win many ESL Open Cups, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

*: has a somewhat realistic chance

Combined Standings Shenanigans
Apart from several Koreans theoretically the following 3 players could also still qualify to the Ro24 via the Combined Standing Shenanigans:
  • HeRoMaRinE
  • ShoWTimE
  • Elazer
For more information take a look at our Combined Standings page: (Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Standings/Combined

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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4087 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-10 13:28:50
December 10 2020 13:28 GMT
#62
Since there is no LR thread yet

+ Show Spoiler +
Protoss OP confirmed:
Parting 3:0 TY
Stats 3:2 Inno
Trap 3:0 Maru

Don't take it too serious
TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down.
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
December 10 2020 14:18 GMT
#63
Damn, Bunny qualifying after wins over Byun and Maru, thats big
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary323 Posts
December 10 2020 18:32 GMT
#64
Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4087 Posts
December 11 2020 08:52 GMT
#65
On December 11 2020 03:32 Shathe wrote:
Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points.


Might have gotten Dark and Solar that Ro24 seed secured but other than that, I don't see any real changes?
TheDougler is the master of signature bets, he is the two-time Blizzcon SigBet Champ. Also, Serral let me down.
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany229 Posts
December 11 2020 16:21 GMT
#66
On December 11 2020 17:52 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2020 03:32 Shathe wrote:
Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points.


Might have gotten Dark and Solar that Ro24 seed secured but other than that, I don't see any real changes?


The orig rules had it so that everyone that played in ST1 would have gotten points, EXCEPT the top4, they were supposed to only get the invite to GSL S1

So for Dark and Solar it would have had a negative effect, not a positive one.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany1787 Posts
December 11 2020 18:01 GMT
#67
On December 12 2020 01:21 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2020 17:52 Harris1st wrote:
On December 11 2020 03:32 Shathe wrote:
Still disgusted by the fact that ST1 didnt yield points.


Might have gotten Dark and Solar that Ro24 seed secured but other than that, I don't see any real changes?


The orig rules had it so that everyone that played in ST1 would have gotten points, EXCEPT the top4, they were supposed to only get the invite to GSL S1

So for Dark and Solar it would have had a negative effect, not a positive one.

Yeah, but the originall rules were the dumbest thing ever seen, so I gues Harris was referring to a "normal" standart, reasonable point allocation, similar to ST 2. IMO that would have been way way WAY better than both what is in place now and what was suggested first..
MaxPax | Reynor | Clem
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany229 Posts
December 18 2020 10:15 GMT
#68
UPDATE

As you can see in the below attached Screenshot we now have mathematically secured the Ro24 seeds (all under the assumption Zest and Stats can play of course), including the extra Seed from the Combined Standings that goes (as expected) to the Koreans.

[image loading]


For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open:
  • Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
  • Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
  • In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.

[image loading]


So after the next set of ESL Open Cups uThermal, Bunny and Kelazhur will (most likely) have mathematically secured their Ro36 seed and there will only be 2 remaining open slots (CN & OC), which are (most likely) gifted to Probe and Cyan.

As always you can find more information on Liquipedia:
  • (Wiki)IEM Katowice/2021/Round of 36
  • (Wiki)IEM Katowice/2021
  • (Wiki)ESL Pro Tour/2020/21/Standings (with links to each Regions standings)

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Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1690 Posts
December 18 2020 10:43 GMT
#69
On December 18 2020 19:15 hjpalpha wrote:
For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open:
  • Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
  • Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
  • In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.


So except for the extremely unlikely scenario where Zoun wins almost all the open cups, the Last Chance tournament offers no last chances at all?
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium3718 Posts
December 18 2020 11:02 GMT
#70
On December 18 2020 19:43 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2020 19:15 hjpalpha wrote:
For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open:
  • Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
  • Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
  • In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.


So except for the extremely unlikely scenario where Zoun wins almost all the open cups, the Last Chance tournament offers no last chances at all?


thats ironic. I guess comes next Monday, when mathematical chances will no longer exist, the Last Chance will officially become the "Just play for money, bro" tournament
Drone is a way of living
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany229 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-18 14:23:41
December 18 2020 14:02 GMT
#71
On December 18 2020 20:02 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2020 19:43 Zzzapper wrote:
On December 18 2020 19:15 hjpalpha wrote:
For the Ro36 most is determined too. Only a few slots are still (theoretically) open:
  • Lambo can still (theoretically) overtake uThermal by winning all of the remaining ESL Open Cups (in all regions) that still give points.
  • Zoun can still (theoretically) overtake Bunny by accumulating at least 105 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Bunny getting eliminated in the first Round of DHM Last Chance and not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • Cham can still (theoretically) overtake Kelazhur by accumulating at least 115 points from the remaining ESL Open Cups (120 theoretically possible) and Kelazhur not earning ESL Open Cup points.
  • In the Oceania standings theoretically RiSky, EnDerr and Seither can still overtake Probe, but as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Probe most likely.
  • In the China standings theoretically Jieshi, XY, MacSed and Silky can still overtake Cyan, but again as none of these players is likely to earn any points from ESL Open Cups and none of them qualified for DHM Last Chance this seed will go to Cyan most likely.


So except for the extremely unlikely scenario where Zoun wins almost all the open cups, the Last Chance tournament offers no last chances at all?


thats ironic. I guess comes next Monday, when mathematical chances will no longer exist, the Last Chance will officially become the "Just play for money, bro" tournament


Last Chance Qualifiers were significant regarding Qualification, the event itself will not change anything (because of how the Qualifiers went) regarding this. It might shuffle the standings a bit though (as in for the seeding during IEM) but it will not change who qualified.

Also CN and OC will not be mathematically determined on Monday (OC one week later and CN with the last set of ESL Open Cups that give points toward the 2020/21 Standings)
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