On September 17 2020 17:02 Poopi wrote: Group C is group of death for me, group D should be easy for Rogue and Dark so nothing to see there I think. Group A is free for TY
Rogue will roflstomp the group yes. But both Dark and Innovation are disappointing lately. I think any of the remaining 3 could advance here, especially if Trap steps up in his PvZ once.
On September 17 2020 17:26 kajtarp wrote: Rogue will roflstomp the group yes. But both Dark and Innovation are disappointing lately. I think any of the remaining 3 could advance here, especially if Trap steps up in his PvZ once.
It depends on which Rogue shows up. He has a normal post-championship slump, so he might not be practicing as hard as normal. Hell, he even said in his winner's interview that he wants to take this season easy since he was so stressed practicing last season.
If worldbeater Rogue shows up though, he's a safe favorite to make it out. He usually does well against Dark, I'm assuming he's confident against InNoVation since he picked him first, and Trap would have to win 2 PvZs to get out first, which I just don't see happening. Either way, the 1 week Thanksgiving break between the 2 sets of groups is going to be so painful! At least every group gets progressively more interesting.
Holy shit at groups C and D!!!! How do you even prepare for that? Given how differently Parting plays, group C basically counts as having 4 different races!
I dunno if I share the excitement for group C. It kinda has 2 clear favorites, no? Maru and Stats will advance I think. Parting is not the player he was a couple months ago and Byun surprised me by advancing first but honestly he wasnt that impressive.
The other groups though...they are impossible to predict. Group D is very dependent on which Rogue shows up. If the championship Rogue he will destroy this group. Trap while I respect him and think he is the best protoss and probably has the best PvZ, I dont believe he has a chance here (0 chance beating Rogue and he isnt that hot against Dark or Inno usually either)
TY picked Dream saying that Dream labeled him as a 4th best Terran, but in his interview with Gyuri he says the tierlist is: TY > Inno > Cure > Maru. Any idea why this discrepancy?
Oof my boy Trap, that’s rough. Well ok not my boy, Gemini’s, although I’m a big fan.
With his 2 finals and him tying TY’s run of consecutive Ro8s, he’s probably the second most deserving player of a GSL who hasn’t got one yet. Ironically soO doesn’t come second in that particular competition.
On the other hand, his PvZ is better these days and big picture if the cards fall right and him and Inno take out both Rogue and Dark, his chances shoot up in playoffs.
Zergs, even the best around are way more doable in Bo3s where the Protoss needs fewer good builds and Zergs have to prepare for multiple matchups than the horrors of facing them at final boss level in a bo7.
Group C is disgusting as well, as much negativity as there is swirling around this dead, lifeless game there’s some bloody talent on show.
Looking a little further ahead what matchups would you fine folks potentially like to see come the playoffs?
TY facing off against Trap has been one I’ve been hoping will happen for a while. Parting has had some great results with his particular style of PvT, until he ran into TY countering them and I’d love to see what the latter would prep against Trap, who I think is the strongest orthodox PvTer around.
ByuN or Zoun vs anyone would be hype, and I’d love to see DRG continue his return to the top.
On September 17 2020 22:36 nerdchill wrote: This might be one of the best GSL RO16s in a long time. Group A is a bit soft. But the rest of the groups are stacked. Damn! :D :D :D
that being said, group a is also hard to call. ty sure, but after that?? how many liquibets have i wasted on dream...
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote: Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote: Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while
I think Group A is about the same every season this year tbh. Like it's Dark-Dear-TaeJa-Scarlett, TY-DRG-Scarlett-SpeCial and now TY-Dream-Armani-Zoun. Don't think that's that different. Probably one of the consequences of cutting Code S from 32 to 28 is that even the group of life isn't always a total meme.
Also even though Armani and Zoun won their groups TY called them the 15th and 16th best player in the Ro16. So their best chance is probably being underestimated rather than their actual skill level.
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote: Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while
I think Group A is about the same every season this year tbh. Like it's Dark-Dear-TaeJa-Scarlett, TY-DRG-Scarlett-SpeCial and now TY-Dream-Armani-Zoun. Don't think that's that different. Probably one of the consequences of cutting Code S from 32 to 28 is that even the group of life isn't always a total meme.
Also even though Armani and Zoun won their groups TY called them the 15th and 16th best player in the Ro16. So their best chance is probably being underestimated rather than their actual skill level.
While I mostly agree with you, I must add to that that Zoun actually has displayed great preperation skills in GTC, wich makes him a little bit more dangerous than your average 16th best player in terms of raw skill.
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote: Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while
I think Group A is about the same every season this year tbh. Like it's Dark-Dear-TaeJa-Scarlett, TY-DRG-Scarlett-SpeCial and now TY-Dream-Armani-Zoun. Don't think that's that different. Probably one of the consequences of cutting Code S from 32 to 28 is that even the group of life isn't always a total meme.
Also even though Armani and Zoun won their groups TY called them the 15th and 16th best player in the Ro16. So their best chance is probably being underestimated rather than their actual skill level.
While I mostly agree with you, I must add to that that Zoun actually has displayed great preperation skills in GTC, wich makes him a little bit more dangerous than your average 16th best player in terms of raw skill.
Well I think in general the 16th best player in the Ro16 is there because they're good at prep and maybe play a bit weird and not necessarily because they're the 16th best player in Korea.