• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:17
CEST 18:17
KST 01:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue
Brood War
General
Every Matchup's Top 5 Winrates (all ASLs & KSLs) Pros React To: ASL S21 Finals BW General Discussion Very long shot - StarCraft x A7X video Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development streaming software
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2549 users

Code S: ByuN & Parting advance, RO16 groups determined - P…

Forum Index > SC2 General
77 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 17 2020 08:40 GMT
#21
On September 17 2020 17:26 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 17:02 Poopi wrote:
Group C is group of death for me, group D should be easy for Rogue and Dark so nothing to see there I think. Group A is free for TY


Rogue will roflstomp the group yes. But both Dark and Innovation are disappointing lately. I think any of the remaining 3 could advance here, especially if Trap steps up in his PvZ once.

Traps PvZ has improved a lot since Katowice
MaxPax
Niravroh
Profile Joined August 2020
165 Posts
September 17 2020 08:41 GMT
#22
On September 17 2020 17:26 kajtarp wrote:
Rogue will roflstomp the group yes. But both Dark and Innovation are disappointing lately. I think any of the remaining 3 could advance here, especially if Trap steps up in his PvZ once.



It depends on which Rogue shows up. He has a normal post-championship slump, so he might not be practicing as hard as normal. Hell, he even said in his winner's interview that he wants to take this season easy since he was so stressed practicing last season.


If worldbeater Rogue shows up though, he's a safe favorite to make it out. He usually does well against Dark, I'm assuming he's confident against InNoVation since he picked him first, and Trap would have to win 2 PvZs to get out first, which I just don't see happening. Either way, the 1 week Thanksgiving break between the 2 sets of groups is going to be so painful! At least every group gets progressively more interesting.
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
September 17 2020 09:20 GMT
#23
Holy moly C & D are stacked.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 17 2020 09:24 GMT
#24
Its just so disappointing we barely lost patience...
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Poaktree
Profile Joined January 2017
165 Posts
September 17 2020 09:45 GMT
#25
Holy shit at groups C and D!!!! How do you even prepare for that? Given how differently Parting plays, group C basically counts as having 4 different races!
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
September 17 2020 09:59 GMT
#26
I dunno if I share the excitement for group C. It kinda has 2 clear favorites, no? Maru and Stats will advance I think. Parting is not the player he was a couple months ago and Byun surprised me by advancing first but honestly he wasnt that impressive.

The other groups though...they are impossible to predict. Group D is very dependent on which Rogue shows up. If the championship Rogue he will destroy this group. Trap while I respect him and think he is the best protoss and probably has the best PvZ, I dont believe he has a chance here (0 chance beating Rogue and he isnt that hot against Dark or Inno usually either)

Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
395 Posts
September 17 2020 10:01 GMT
#27
TY picked Dream saying that Dream labeled him as a 4th best Terran, but in his interview with Gyuri he says the tierlist is: TY > Inno > Cure > Maru. Any idea why this discrepancy?


royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 17 2020 10:19 GMT
#28
Group A is so much weaker that the other groups
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 10:36:42
September 17 2020 10:35 GMT
#29
group d OUCH
edit: and group c.

this will be fun to watch
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 17 2020 10:59 GMT
#30
On September 17 2020 19:19 royalroadweed wrote:
Group A is so much weaker that the other groups

Yes it is. But it allways is and its actually still going to be a realy interesting one with GTC heavy carries Zoun and Dream
MaxPax
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26881 Posts
September 17 2020 11:44 GMT
#31
Oof my boy Trap, that’s rough. Well ok not my boy, Gemini’s, although I’m a big fan.

With his 2 finals and him tying TY’s run of consecutive Ro8s, he’s probably the second most deserving player of a GSL who hasn’t got one yet. Ironically soO doesn’t come second in that particular competition.

On the other hand, his PvZ is better these days and big picture if the cards fall right and him and Inno take out both Rogue and Dark, his chances shoot up in playoffs.

Zergs, even the best around are way more doable in Bo3s where the Protoss needs fewer good builds and Zergs have to prepare for multiple matchups than the horrors of facing them at final boss level in a bo7.

Group C is disgusting as well, as much negativity as there is swirling around this dead, lifeless game there’s some bloody talent on show.

Looking a little further ahead what matchups would you fine folks potentially like to see come the playoffs?

TY facing off against Trap has been one I’ve been hoping will happen for a while. Parting has had some great results with his particular style of PvT, until he ran into TY countering them and I’d love to see what the latter would prep against Trap, who I think is the strongest orthodox PvTer around.

ByuN or Zoun vs anyone would be hype, and I’d love to see DRG continue his return to the top.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
nerdchill
Profile Joined May 2019
16 Posts
September 17 2020 13:33 GMT
#32
Group C Hype! Buyn vs Maru comming up!
nerdchill
Profile Joined May 2019
16 Posts
September 17 2020 13:36 GMT
#33
This might be one of the best GSL RO16s in a long time. Group A is a bit soft. But the rest of the groups are stacked. Damn! :D :D :D
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 17 2020 13:48 GMT
#34
On September 17 2020 22:36 nerdchill wrote:
This might be one of the best GSL RO16s in a long time. Group A is a bit soft. But the rest of the groups are stacked. Damn! :D :D :D

that being said, group a is also hard to call. ty sure, but after that?? how many liquibets have i wasted on dream...
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33618 Posts
September 17 2020 13:52 GMT
#35
Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 17 2020 13:54 GMT
#36
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote:
Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while

zoun is a wild card if i ever saw one
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-17 14:06:32
September 17 2020 14:04 GMT
#37
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote:
Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while

I think Group A is about the same every season this year tbh. Like it's Dark-Dear-TaeJa-Scarlett, TY-DRG-Scarlett-SpeCial and now TY-Dream-Armani-Zoun. Don't think that's that different. Probably one of the consequences of cutting Code S from 32 to 28 is that even the group of life isn't always a total meme.

Also even though Armani and Zoun won their groups TY called them the 15th and 16th best player in the Ro16. So their best chance is probably being underestimated rather than their actual skill level.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 17 2020 14:12 GMT
#38
On September 17 2020 23:04 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote:
Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while

I think Group A is about the same every season this year tbh. Like it's Dark-Dear-TaeJa-Scarlett, TY-DRG-Scarlett-SpeCial and now TY-Dream-Armani-Zoun. Don't think that's that different. Probably one of the consequences of cutting Code S from 32 to 28 is that even the group of life isn't always a total meme.

Also even though Armani and Zoun won their groups TY called them the 15th and 16th best player in the Ro16. So their best chance is probably being underestimated rather than their actual skill level.

While I mostly agree with you, I must add to that that Zoun actually has displayed great preperation skills in GTC, wich makes him a little bit more dangerous than your average 16th best player in terms of raw skill.
MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55578 Posts
September 17 2020 14:35 GMT
#39
On September 17 2020 23:12 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2020 23:04 Elentos wrote:
On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote:
Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while

I think Group A is about the same every season this year tbh. Like it's Dark-Dear-TaeJa-Scarlett, TY-DRG-Scarlett-SpeCial and now TY-Dream-Armani-Zoun. Don't think that's that different. Probably one of the consequences of cutting Code S from 32 to 28 is that even the group of life isn't always a total meme.

Also even though Armani and Zoun won their groups TY called them the 15th and 16th best player in the Ro16. So their best chance is probably being underestimated rather than their actual skill level.

While I mostly agree with you, I must add to that that Zoun actually has displayed great preperation skills in GTC, wich makes him a little bit more dangerous than your average 16th best player in terms of raw skill.

Well I think in general the 16th best player in the Ro16 is there because they're good at prep and maybe play a bit weird and not necessarily because they're the 16th best player in Korea.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 17 2020 16:43 GMT
#40
ByuNjwaaa
Community News
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 232
ProTech93
trigger 57
UpATreeSC 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23317
EffOrt 1169
Horang2 497
Light 391
ggaemo 274
Rush 271
BeSt 260
firebathero 205
Mind 59
Sea.KH 58
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 51
Dewaltoss 44
Pusan 33
Rock 24
Movie 21
IntoTheRainbow 20
Sacsri 20
Terrorterran 16
Shine 15
GoRush 14
sorry 11
Sexy 9
Dota 2
qojqva1514
League of Legends
Reynor64
Counter-Strike
fl0m1084
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 113
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi865
hiko833
Mlord659
Dendi540
Beastyqt383
B2W.Neo356
ceh9297
DeMusliM278
Hui .239
ArmadaUGS103
Mew2King84
QueenE58
Trikslyr53
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL298
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 28
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 23
• 80smullet 6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota243
League of Legends
• Nemesis3846
• Jankos1869
• TFBlade1031
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 44m
Cham vs Percival
ShoWTimE vs Lambo
Krystianer vs sebesdes
Cure vs Babymarine
SKillous vs Arrogfire
Gerald vs MindelVK
goblin vs TBD
Jumy vs HonMonO
Replay Cast
7h 44m
Maestros of the Game
20h 44m
Big Brain Bouts
23h 44m
Shino vs Scarlett
Bly vs DnS
Serral vs ByuN
Replay Cast
1d 7h
RSL Revival
1d 14h
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
1d 18h
IPSL
1d 23h
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.