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On September 17 2020 22:52 Waxangel wrote:
Even though Group A is always the group of life after they gave the #1 seed two picks, it's still prolly the most difficult it's been in a while
I guess it will change. let say, if Rogue is on the top seed for the first time, picking up someone like Inno or Dark in Group A, making the group no longer a group of life.
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My boi Armani headed to Ro8!
Sucks for everybody in the other groups, though.
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Mexico2170 Posts
Guys do yourselves a favor and watch patiencie vs parting game 1.
One of the best PvPs I've ever seen.
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On September 18 2020 03:31 [Phantom] wrote:
Guys do yourselfs a favor and watch patiencie vs parting game 1.
One of the best PvPs I've ever seen.
every patience game was a special little gem
edit: but yes that one in particular.. never seen any like it or close to it
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I dont get why people still disrespect Byuns late game. Agree he didnt look great here but give him a break he just got back. He earned Ghost King nickname. He had absolutely god tier tvp late game back in the day no reason to think he wont again.
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On September 18 2020 03:36 DomeGetta wrote:
I dont get why people still disrespect Byuns late game. Agree he didnt look great here but give him a break he just got back. He earned Ghost King nickname. He had absolutely god tier tvp late game back in the day no reason to think he wont again.
he earned all the respect in the world in his first matches. maybe the lr thread was hating on his lategame? i don't get that. he saw timings, he pounced. he knows how to find his kill shots
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Broke: Focusing on Group D
Woke: Recognizing Group A is what causes shit like this to happen...
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also don't think people appreciate how tough TvP late game is on this map pool. When Inno is dropping games to Zoun and Hurricane and Maru loses a BO5 to Parting, going 4-2 vs Parting and Patience actually looks really good.
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On September 18 2020 03:36 DomeGetta wrote:
I dont get why people still disrespect Byuns late game. Agree he didnt look great here but give him a break he just got back. He earned Ghost King nickname. He had absolutely god tier tvp late game back in the day no reason to think he wont again.
Yeah he'll have god tier late game like the last resurgence he had where all he did was make reapers
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This is insane. Each group is insane.
A: The two newcomers, and TY.
B: DRG, again, with some other well-known names like Zest. Can it get better? How?
C: What ... Maru, Parting, Stats, AND Byun??? It this real?
D: Rogue and Dark in the same group. And Trap. And, to spoil the party, Innovation.
This. is. madness.
This is a group of 16 where everything aligns. New blood, the old guard, ruthless killers, multitime champions and Blizzcon winners. This might be the actual golden age of SC2.
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Northern Ireland25665 Posts
On September 18 2020 03:38 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 03:36 DomeGetta wrote:
I dont get why people still disrespect Byuns late game. Agree he didnt look great here but give him a break he just got back. He earned Ghost King nickname. He had absolutely god tier tvp late game back in the day no reason to think he wont again. he earned all the respect in the world in his first matches. maybe the lr thread was hating on his lategame? i don't get that. he saw timings, he pounced. he knows how to find his kill shots
He’s not bad per se, at all. His micro chops just don’t scale into blob vs blob situations
Even at this early stage of his comeback, already there are few players I’d want to face less than ByuN in the early game or in some 3 base sub 140 supply situation.
He’s not exactly deficient in other areas, but his strengths are in eking out those efficient trades with micro few others can match.
At a much lower level my proficiency back in WoL was microing small groups of units, WC3 background and all. So in a 4 gate war my win rate was huge, but that levelled out a lot in larger scale engagements. Only so much micro one can do in deathball vs deathball
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On September 18 2020 09:05 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 03:38 Alejandrisha wrote:On September 18 2020 03:36 DomeGetta wrote:
I dont get why people still disrespect Byuns late game. Agree he didnt look great here but give him a break he just got back. He earned Ghost King nickname. He had absolutely god tier tvp late game back in the day no reason to think he wont again. he earned all the respect in the world in his first matches. maybe the lr thread was hating on his lategame? i don't get that. he saw timings, he pounced. he knows how to find his kill shots He’s not bad per se, at all. His micro chops just don’t scale into blob vs blob situations Even at this early stage of his comeback, already there are few players I’d want to face less than ByuN in the early game or in some 3 base sub 140 supply situation. He’s not exactly deficient in other areas, but his strengths are in eking out those efficient trades with micro few others can match. At a much lower level my proficiency back in WoL was microing small groups of units, WC3 background and all. So in a 4 gate war my win rate was huge, but that levelled out a lot in larger scale engagements. Only so much micro one can do in deathball vs deathball
Pretty much sums it up perhaps .. BuyN can macro when he focuses on it obviously, but in the recent games yesterday he had a good amount of idle workers. He still won handily and you could see by the looks on Partings and Patience faces that his play got to them on a personal level.
E-bay blocking the natural is not going to work in the next round. What ever happens it is going to be fun. Group C is completely random in my mind. As is group D which I also wouldn't even dare to predict.
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Northern Ireland25665 Posts
On September 18 2020 10:34 Spinoza wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2020 09:05 WombaT wrote:On September 18 2020 03:38 Alejandrisha wrote:On September 18 2020 03:36 DomeGetta wrote:
I dont get why people still disrespect Byuns late game. Agree he didnt look great here but give him a break he just got back. He earned Ghost King nickname. He had absolutely god tier tvp late game back in the day no reason to think he wont again. he earned all the respect in the world in his first matches. maybe the lr thread was hating on his lategame? i don't get that. he saw timings, he pounced. he knows how to find his kill shots He’s not bad per se, at all. His micro chops just don’t scale into blob vs blob situations Even at this early stage of his comeback, already there are few players I’d want to face less than ByuN in the early game or in some 3 base sub 140 supply situation. He’s not exactly deficient in other areas, but his strengths are in eking out those efficient trades with micro few others can match. At a much lower level my proficiency back in WoL was microing small groups of units, WC3 background and all. So in a 4 gate war my win rate was huge, but that levelled out a lot in larger scale engagements. Only so much micro one can do in deathball vs deathball Pretty much sums it up perhaps .. BuyN can macro when he focuses on it obviously, but in the recent games yesterday he had a good amount of idle workers. He still won handily and you could see by the looks on Partings and Patience faces that his play got to them on a personal level. E-bay blocking the natural is not going to work in the next round. What ever happens it is going to be fun. Group C is completely random in my mind. As is group D which I also wouldn't even dare to predict.
The smart play next round is to eBay block into eco cheese behind it, mind game it up to!
His macro in terms of spending his money is still pretty exemplary, he’s just not quite nailing the transitions and covering further expansions yet.
I mean still looks pretty bloody good. A combo of ByuN playing the early thru mid game and handing over to TY for late and good luck Protosses.
Not that Maru or Inno are slouches and TY doesn’t often get to the lategame unscathed but I think in a purely isolated sense he looks super strong when he does.
Of course Maru in the past has shown he can straddle both worlds in the ‘I can micro and pressure better than anyone’ combined with a brutal lategame, hasn’t shown that level for a while now sadly.
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So hyped for the next round. Fully on board the ByuN hype train with no shame!
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On September 17 2020 18:24 Argonauta wrote:
Its just so disappointing we barely lost patience...
I'd rather see PartinG advance--he's got such an entertaining play style and that's good for viewership too.
But I see your point. He got etched out by the skin of his teeth and that macro match against ByuN really showed what he's capable of.
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D probably group of death but C will have the most interesting games with parting and byun
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I think B = C almost, but D is the group of death for sure. All 4 players are title contenders.
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Oh my goodness, group d is insane. Actually all of these groups are. Hyped!
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Groups C and D are both very good. Except Innovation the other 7 players could win the tournament.
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On September 18 2020 08:37 tskarzyn wrote:
also don't think people appreciate how tough TvP late game is on this map pool. When Inno is dropping games to Zoun and Hurricane and Maru loses a BO5 to Parting, going 4-2 vs Parting and Patience actually looks really good.
I don't think map pool has anything to do with it. imo the issue with late game TvP is due to the amount of splash damage protoss can utilize and terran bio is especially vulnerable to splash dmg.
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