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SpeCial, Nice, Probe win DH Fall Regionals

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-01 08:57:32
August 31 2020 23:29 GMT
#1
[image loading]DreamHack SC2 Masters Fall

Week 1 of DreamHack Masters Fall saw three regional tournaments conclude with some significant shake-ups in the championship picture. SpeCial triumphed yet again in Latin America, but his margin of victory was razor thin as Cham battled him to the bitter end in an all-Mexican grand final.

Unlike SpeCial, Has was unable to keep his streak of local domination going in the Taiwan/HK/Macau/Japan region, losing to Taiwan's long-time #2 player in Nice. In the Oceanic region, RiSky's brief kiwi reign came to an end as Australia's Probe reclaimed the title for the first time in several seasons, beating countryman Seither in the finals.

Week 2 of DreamHack Masters Fall will feature the North American regional beginning its group stage competition, while the Chinese regional tournament will be held in its entirety. The European regional is already underway, with the round-robin group stage being nearly halfway through. Week 2 games will be played from September 1st to September 6th.

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Latin America

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Only Latin America saw the previous season's champion reclaim the title, with SpeCial winning his 10th straight Copa America/LATAM regional in a row. However, his road was anything but easy, as he was put on the ropes when Cham stunned him by taking a 3-1 victory against him in the winners finals. The mere fact that Cham reached the grand finals constituted a major change in the LATAM scene, breaking years of Special and Kelazhur domination in the top two of the region (Cham previously had a run of 2nd place finishes back in 2017).

However, while Cham supplanted Kelazhur as LATAM's #2, he wasn't able to topple SpeCial in the end. While Cham's solid muta-ling-bane macro play allowed him to overpower SpeCial in their winners final clash, he wasn't able to repeat the feat in the grand finals. Earning a rematch through the losers bracket, SpeCial was able to overcome his 1 match disadvantage in the grand finals, with his famed mech driving home the final points in a 4-3 finals victory.

Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau, and Japan

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Unlike SpeCial, Has saw his regional winning streak end after seven seasons of success. The player to defeat him was none other than Nice, the last non-Has player to win the Taiwanese Regional back in December of 2017. The finals was not the cheese-fest some might have expected given the two names involved—at least, it wasn't any cheesier than your garden variety of PvP. The victory gave Nice his second WCS/DH Taiwan regional title of his career, and marked his first major accomplishment since being dealt a half-year suspension in 2019 for ladder abuse,

ButAlways, returning to Taiwan from a study-abroad session in Australia which saw him win two OCE regionals in 2019, re-assumed his familiar 3rd place position in the Taiwanese regional.

Oceania & Rest of Asia

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OCE's all-Australian final between Probe and Seither brought an intriguing end to a season where several of the region's players had protested the eligibility of UK/NZ dual citizen RiSky. While RiSky retained his eligibility, and was even joined by a handful of other dual citizen players, none of them managed to crack the top three.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-01 03:35:51
September 01 2020 03:12 GMT
#2
Honestly not surprised at the result, Probe was showing some promise and Special as always wins LA, real surprise was nice winning instead of Has
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 01 2020 05:47 GMT
#3
Realy great week one of DH Fall
Last season it was all stegnant water, now we had a lot of Mix ups, can t wait to see what these small regions bring in Season 3
MaxPax
Elantris
Profile Joined June 2018
66 Posts
September 01 2020 08:02 GMT
#4
Not again risky-frisky
Maybe it's time to play in real region like you supposed to do.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 01 2020 09:27 GMT
#5
On September 01 2020 17:02 Elantris wrote:
Not again risky-frisky
Maybe it's time to play in real region like you supposed to do.

He s allowed to freaking Vote in NZ, what other criteria do you want him to meet?

I personally like following the OCE/RoA EPT region (partly because I lived in Aus for a while and have some close friends living there right now), but this Risky bashing is hard to watch, because to me it doesn t make any sense to me.
MaxPax
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
September 01 2020 09:32 GMT
#6
It seems this anti-Risky sentiment is becoming pure harassment now.

ESL permits him to play in the OCE/RoA region, and so he does. If you have a problem with that, aim your guns at ESL.

People who harass any single player in the SC2 community should simply get banned.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2146 Posts
September 01 2020 09:43 GMT
#7
Good on you Probe !
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Rize_sc2
Profile Joined September 2020
3 Posts
September 01 2020 09:44 GMT
#8
On September 01 2020 18:32 sneakyfox wrote:
It seems this anti-Risky sentiment is becoming pure harassment now.

ESL permits him to play in the OCE/RoA region, and so he does. If you have a problem with that, aim your guns at ESL.

People who harass any single player in the SC2 community should simply get banned.


ah yes, by this logic risky should be banned for engaging in harassment in twitch chat after his games the other day
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 01 2020 09:46 GMT
#9
On September 01 2020 18:32 sneakyfox wrote:
It seems this anti-Risky sentiment is becoming pure harassment now.

ESL permits him to play in the OCE/RoA region, and so he does. If you have a problem with that, aim your guns at ESL.

People who harass any single player in the SC2 community should simply get banned.

Yeah, it s completly different thing, if you say:
"Get the f out Risky" or "ESL, change the rules, so Risky [and others] can t playin OCE"

Most of the players in OCE region are actually phrasing it more in the 2nd way. You can agree or diagree with that, but that is fine.

Pretty much everything I ve seen from fans is actually phrased like the first way, wich is just absolutly wrong .
MaxPax
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
September 01 2020 10:27 GMT
#10
On September 01 2020 17:02 Elantris wrote:
Not again risky-frisky
Maybe it's time to play in real region like you supposed to do.

I agree, OCE isn't a real region.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 01 2020 10:32 GMT
#11
On September 01 2020 19:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2020 17:02 Elantris wrote:
Not again risky-frisky
Maybe it's time to play in real region like you supposed to do.

I agree, OCE isn't a real region.

Well there could an argument beeing made, to merge OCE and Taiwan, as those are the 2 smallest regions and together would actually be comparable to LA and China.
I personally like to gice those small regions some time in the spotlight though and realy enjoy the storylines of Has v Nice and Risky vs Probe. These top dogs are arguably quite a bit worse than the top dogs of the other regions, but nevertheless bring exciting games.
MaxPax
Rob-Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany460 Posts
September 01 2020 14:43 GMT
#12
I like Special and all, but I think getting 350 EPT Points every season, basically for beating Kelazhur and Cham, is too much.
It lacks in comparison to EU especially, but in my eyes also to China and Taiwan, which I think are regions that are not that much weaker (but the winner gets "only" 220 EPT Points). Would like to see ESL rethinking this.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-01 17:28:46
September 01 2020 17:23 GMT
#13
On September 01 2020 23:43 Rob-Zero wrote:
I like Special and all, but I think getting 350 EPT Points every season, basically for beating Kelazhur and Cham, is too much.
It lacks in comparison to EU especially, but in my eyes also to China and Taiwan, which I think are regions that are not that much weaker (but the winner gets "only" 220 EPT Points). Would like to see ESL rethinking this.

Beyond "not much weaker" I'd say they're significantly stronger. Far more depth to their rosters, at least. Seems very strange.
elluel
Profile Joined October 2019
62 Posts
September 01 2020 18:15 GMT
#14
no offence but why isn't there a DH korea? isn't this kind of racist? not having a regional for korea
InvictusRage
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
September 01 2020 20:20 GMT
#15
GSL Code S is explicitly the regional for Korea. Why isn't that enough?
Elantris
Profile Joined June 2018
66 Posts
September 01 2020 20:32 GMT
#16
On September 02 2020 05:20 InvictusRage wrote:
GSL Code S is explicitly the regional for Korea.


Since when foreigners banned from competing in GSL??????
ilax30
Profile Joined November 2019
720 Posts
September 02 2020 00:30 GMT
#17
On September 02 2020 05:32 Elantris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2020 05:20 InvictusRage wrote:
GSL Code S is explicitly the regional for Korea.


Since when foreigners banned from competing in GSL??????


Not banned but considering they have to live in said country just to participate. Koreans are doing just fine
AusProbe
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia235 Posts
September 02 2020 01:03 GMT
#18
The prize pool of GSL is also $140k, while EU is $84k.
There are 6 Koreans in the season finals, and 4 Europeans. So no, I wouldn't really call that racist...

Also in terms of latam getting more points, correct me if I am wrong, but it doesn't overly matter right? For IEM katowice qualification, it's all region based, so the points are just compared within regions.

I guess it's only impact is they get seeded a bit higher in open tournaments?
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
September 02 2020 01:19 GMT
#19
On September 02 2020 09:30 ilax30 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2020 05:32 Elantris wrote:
On September 02 2020 05:20 InvictusRage wrote:
GSL Code S is explicitly the regional for Korea.


Since when foreigners banned from competing in GSL??????


Not banned but considering they have to live in said country just to participate. Koreans are doing just fine

Yeah, the Korean scene seems super healthy...
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
September 02 2020 07:25 GMT
#20
On September 02 2020 10:19 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2020 09:30 ilax30 wrote:
On September 02 2020 05:32 Elantris wrote:
On September 02 2020 05:20 InvictusRage wrote:
GSL Code S is explicitly the regional for Korea.


Since when foreigners banned from competing in GSL??????


Not banned but considering they have to live in said country just to participate. Koreans are doing just fine

Yeah, the Korean scene seems super healthy...

it is! glad you agree
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