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WCS Disciplinary Rulings - Jan 15 2019 - Cyan, JieShi, Rou…

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 16 2019 00:14 GMT
#1
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The StarCraft II World Championship Series (WCS) operates via official rulesets, which were established to set expectations around the rules of tournament play and structure, player eligibility, points, prizes, sponsorships, and player conduct. All players accept these rules in order to participate in our tournaments and are expected to abide by them at all times.

All administrative decisions related to tournaments governed by Blizzard's official StarCraft II WCS ruleset can be found here.

WCS Winter 2019 - January 2019

Cyan, JieShi, Route, and Nice have been disqualified from WCS Winter 2019 and banned from Blizzard Esports competition until May 31, 2019.

During the ladder race of WCS Winter—Americas, Route played several suspicious matches with cyan, JieShi, and Nice. Upon review of these matches and accounts in question, it was found that several of the matches were intentionally lost by Route to the other three players involved. Nice, cyan, and JieShi were found to be colluding to intentionally trade wins with the Route account. Finally, it was discovered that both cyan and JieShi were logging into the Route account during the competition as part of this effort. This behavior is prohibited in our tournament rules under section 6.2.a. Specifically, players are prohibited from “collusion, match fixing or any other action to intentionally alter, or attempt to alter [any game], including losing a game or match with another player in order to advance one or the other’s rank,” as well as “allowing an individual who is not the registered owner of a Battle.net account to play on that Battle.net account in StarCraft II or any other Blizzard game.”

Based on this disqualification, Max "Astrea" Angel, Maru "MaSa" Kim, and Erik “Erik” Braga Bermelho will qualify for WCS Winter from their ladder rankings at the conclusion of the ladder race.
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
January 16 2019 00:20 GMT
#2
Yikes. Well hopefully this sends another message to cheaters. Reddit police WILL catch you and the Blizz Ban Hammer will come down.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
January 16 2019 00:23 GMT
#3
It's awful that this has happened, and with so many players at that. Well done, however, to the community (Jjangbi and Hjax in particular) for its work in detecting this and to Blizzard for the quick response.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 16 2019 00:29 GMT
#4
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 16 2019 00:29 GMT
#5
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
January 16 2019 00:35 GMT
#6
Great job Blizzard and congratulations to Astrea, MaSa and Erik.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
January 16 2019 00:56 GMT
#7
On January 16 2019 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

https://twitter.com/Sc2Rex/status/1085327466070036480


If that's the case, Nice needs to appeal and we need to do some more investigation.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16695 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 01:20:55
January 16 2019 01:19 GMT
#8
On January 16 2019 09:23 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
It's awful that this has happened,

you know the old NASCAR saying? : " if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin' "

cheating and fraud are an ever present possibility in all forms of sport and competition.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
January 16 2019 01:20 GMT
#9
On January 16 2019 09:56 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

https://twitter.com/Sc2Rex/status/1085327466070036480


If that's the case, Nice needs to appeal and we need to do some more investigation.


NICE apologised on facebook.
According to his apology, he did not know the true identity of Route but noticed that he gave free wins to Chinese speakung accounts.
However, in the last few minutes he intentionaly messaged Route to give him a free win when he found Astrea and Puck were doing a suspicious game.
However, the official end time is 11.59 min exact but Astrea and Puck left at 11.59.58 so that game DID NOT COUNT. But HIS last game against Route was INTENTIONAL and the game ended at 11.58 and thus was effective.

busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
January 16 2019 01:22 GMT
#10
On January 16 2019 10:20 busyghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 09:56 phodacbiet wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

https://twitter.com/Sc2Rex/status/1085327466070036480


If that's the case, Nice needs to appeal and we need to do some more investigation.


NICE apologised on facebook.
According to his apology, he did not know the true identity of Route but noticed that he gave free wins to Chinese speakung accounts.
However, in the last few minutes he intentionaly messaged Route to give him a free win when he found Astrea and Puck were doing a suspicious game.
However, the official end time is 11.59 min exact but Astrea and Puck left at 11.59.58 so that game DID NOT COUNT. But HIS last game against Route was INTENTIONAL and the game ended at 11.58 and thus was effective.



Gee, this double however looks awful, but you should get what i mean hopefully
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 16 2019 01:25 GMT
#11
On January 16 2019 10:20 busyghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 09:56 phodacbiet wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

https://twitter.com/Sc2Rex/status/1085327466070036480


If that's the case, Nice needs to appeal and we need to do some more investigation.


NICE apologised on facebook.
According to his apology, he did not know the true identity of Route but noticed that he gave free wins to Chinese speakung accounts.
However, in the last few minutes he intentionaly messaged Route to give him a free win when he found Astrea and Puck were doing a suspicious game.
However, the official end time is 11.59 min exact but Astrea and Puck left at 11.59.58 so that game DID NOT COUNT. But HIS last game against Route was INTENTIONAL and the game ended at 11.58 and thus was effective.



I mean if Astrea and Puck were colluding they should also get banned regardless of whether they made the deadline or not. However, if they were merely rushing each other because they were trying to finish the game before 11.59 then that's not against the rules I think.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 16 2019 01:27 GMT
#12
Yeah, I don't have the information Blizzard does, but if Astrea knowingly had a thrown game, he should be banned. Zero tolerance.
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
January 16 2019 01:31 GMT
#13
Good decisions, but i feel like Cyan and Jieshi should get a harder punishment than nice since they were actively wintrading.
Also even so the Astrea vs Puck game did not count it looks like they were attempting to cheat as well which isnt really sportsmanlike either.
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busyghost
Profile Joined August 2017
82 Posts
January 16 2019 01:37 GMT
#14
On January 16 2019 10:25 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 10:20 busyghost wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:56 phodacbiet wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

https://twitter.com/Sc2Rex/status/1085327466070036480


If that's the case, Nice needs to appeal and we need to do some more investigation.


NICE apologised on facebook.
According to his apology, he did not know the true identity of Route but noticed that he gave free wins to Chinese speakung accounts.
However, in the last few minutes he intentionaly messaged Route to give him a free win when he found Astrea and Puck were doing a suspicious game.
However, the official end time is 11.59 min exact but Astrea and Puck left at 11.59.58 so that game DID NOT COUNT. But HIS last game against Route was INTENTIONAL and the game ended at 11.58 and thus was effective.



I mean if Astrea and Puck were colluding they should also get banned regardless of whether they made the deadline or not. However, if they were merely rushing each other because they were trying to finish the game before 11.59 then that's not against the rules I think.


There is no strong evidence for their collusion, and if they did they made a mistake of about the deadline time.

For the case of Cyan, Jieshi and NICE, Jieshi and Cyan have used Route's account directly during the three-day, and NICE intentionally messaged Route in-game for a free win. These were backed by evidence and a witness.

So it makes good sense in the end. If Astrea and Puck's game ended at exact 11.58.50 then it gets more suspicious but there is still need of hard evidence.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2718 Posts
January 16 2019 01:52 GMT
#15
Where's the NA qualifier thread?
very illegal and very uncool
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
January 16 2019 01:55 GMT
#16
Nice admitted this in his Facebook.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 16 2019 01:58 GMT
#17
On January 16 2019 09:56 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 16 2019 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm glad this was resolved quickly and painlessly

Maybe not so painless

https://twitter.com/Sc2Rex/status/1085327466070036480


If that's the case, Nice needs to appeal and we need to do some more investigation.

sometimes it's just the case that the person being caught cheating is lying about it. cheating and lying tend to go together if you hadn't heard
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16695 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 02:07:06
January 16 2019 02:06 GMT
#18
On January 16 2019 10:55 FBTsingLoong wrote:
Nice admitted this in his Facebook.

source please?
it is a step in the right direction. i'm glad to see that.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
FAkeJinAirMaru
Profile Joined February 2017
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 02:10:21
January 16 2019 02:07 GMT
#19
Both Cyan and Nice had mentioned about the traded wins between Astrea and Puck, did you guy look into that?
https://www.weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404329008866153804#_0 from cyan's weibo

NIce's facebook
https://www.facebook.com/NiceAFTW/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARBSBO3pQeaBGXf8TldWOB9ML_j-IUhhalas0O9TTULeWLo3nkCokjieiN6C7acLq0mRKB2alW4rK1bw&hc_ref=ARTzvgZFDzjfYUIUHT8DYegHhY3sH2fpEUlfjUrPbT89ekML2i4nuFHxOFMuWQpeTTI&__xts__[0]=68.ARCgDioRtmrbaFOzZlqKgmt_641s_WOo3CLsEGaeIdAPp8J6En-XI6HOChYLnSVdWeg_iCvNE7gqHt5BM83rJo4gdFxu7Ve-18sFz-OthROBp1glmiH05S8JSvPD3tsF9SLj3eIuUaCqX_RBRqYIMSc-B4n3yV_Nl-zFVbFf4OM_Vj1JkqgxqFumoxCKil90mAAGOpRuFTsPMCBr8zGfcUw7s6fhsu0k88gGaQzyA7n1IFTrMJerNmZXvIwsJ1v42Nofh6fzHaZiCzHpLstEplBmse6STGHTHFOOrIEqKQ2NI2pKAGRD1aCwFFyhxynDMv6FhgkmOxcqJOuoUAh7uv30L7F21CYni1V_eI8PamTFaA5mN10bAuPVV69rZYnL5tx92Of6YOMgWLubSCxXDn1fixcbNn7sKG8JVUv92hfEr41QBZ4l8uqcsd-bR4ELn0E_Rg7BGa8LtVYY2nI-2EpOsu6fT1zytwSPta1xkmYmLdc7DLb_PSsxsg
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-16 02:52:04
January 16 2019 02:37 GMT
#20
On January 16 2019 11:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2019 10:55 FBTsingLoong wrote:
Nice admitted this in his Facebook.

source please?
it is a step in the right direction. i'm glad to see that.



https://www.facebook.com/NiceAFTW/posts/2261227317454390?__xts__[0]=68.ARDTVrQnfaMaKkosTUPODIFhR2oCAKga9MSxhVwtJWO4DecfLVf7jCgGGnnN-UP8tuAeEeCkyoZ9rfk43ffsbvjGwphdOyVSUIYW2HOQyV9zJ2rCotg49a4Bnfg2ReXREAanp3HsmQRvnhgUhji2pUcWgfm7JUMDcueu5K6arQjs-7jGkUiyEcEkizK8diTo1Iium35Q7jzxC5xNTfYxhneM2QDUJF-dXCMllN52fLxpUPXmxZNOlkQX04uY-2w9099yBk6qJLqSuAnmfnZ8MoxSLrmzrjm5mA_xg-hjCZ9wzWTUYLv-qOQFrct9tIDVAGMVvbt3tU21iQIb3sZjlHZeuW65&__tn__=-R
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