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Northern Ireland24921 Posts
On July 21 2020 04:17 TelecoM wrote:
I may grab a bag of popcorn for this 41 page Avilo explanation, this has got to be good. I wish someone would read it / summarize it in a video in a humorous way instead. =P
If anyone can make it through all 41 pages (with additional hyperlink sources) they deserve a fucking medal. I’m only on page 1 and my brain is already hurting.
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whos gonna fight for last place now?
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Canada11343 Posts
A couple years ago, when we were figuring out what to do with Avilo based on other accusations, I bothered to listen to hours and hours of him 'telling his side of the story'- Destiny was trying to talk him down for some reason. Anyways, from that I concluded there is a tendency to imagine relationship where there is none, and when told no he is seemingly incapable of letting go in any sort of healthy manner with constant attempts to circumvent blocked communications, extreme accusations, cyclical patterns of thinking himself as the victim and that there is conspiracy against him. Looked like a very negative, unhealthy paranoid cycle of thinking back then. Doesn't look like things improved. I'm just glad TL was ahead of the curve in cutting him loose. I just hope he can find a path out.
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avilo clearly has some form of psychosis. I hope his family gets him help.
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He's certainly not doing himself a service sharing all those screenshots. If they're actually authentic, what they really prove is that he was recording their interactions, including very private, intimate stuff, even before there were any issues. Complete psychopath behaviour. And probably illegal too.
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On July 21 2020 04:17 TelecoM wrote:
I may grab a bag of popcorn for this 41 page Avilo explanation, this has got to be good. I wish someone would read it / summarize it in a video in a humorous way instead. =P
I wait for the movie.
Avilo should have been banned from streaming platforms for some time already. Same applies for SC2 professional.
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Better late than never. Good.
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What does it change? Don't think he's even capable of qualifying for any of them anymore lol.
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Northern Ireland24921 Posts
On July 21 2020 04:25 Falling wrote:A couple years ago, when we were figuring out what to do with Avilo based on other accusations, I bothered to listen to hours and hours of him 'telling his side of the story'- Destiny was trying to talk him down for some reason. Anyways, from that I concluded there is a tendency to imagine relationship where there is none, and when told no he is seemingly incapable of letting go in any sort of healthy manner with constant attempts to circumvent blocked communications, extreme accusations, cyclical patterns of thinking himself as the victim and that there is conspiracy against him. Looked like a very negative, unhealthy paranoid cycle of thinking back then. Doesn't look like things improved. I'm just glad TL was ahead of the curve in cutting him loose. I just hope he can find a path out.
That must have been exhausting.
I concur, hope he can. Not sure how that happens given how warped his view on reality but I think most people would rather not see a train wreck continue in perpetuity.
As an aside would be nice if ESL had given an actual reason for the ban. I’m assuming quite a lot of people who follow SC2 aren’t particularly au fait with what Avilo’s been up to, seems that way from some of the responses to the Tweet anyway.
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"Atira that told me many times that she was near suicide and suffered from depression, initially because of being stuck in her marriage which she told me “felt like a prison at home” but also from what had happened regarding her getting my stream banned and me and her.
Because I cared about her I looked up the SSRI medicine online that she told me she was prescribed called escitalopram or lexapro. I looked up the side effects
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/escitalopram-oral-tablet#important-warnings
A lot of the side effects seemed worse than what the medicine would be trying to help her with, and I told her I was worried about her taking it and that it would turn her into a zombie, or increase her thoughts of suicide since she mentioned to me about suicidal thoughts previously...so yes, I did tell her I was worried and to not take it and I had her best interests at heart when I told her this."
This just makes Avilo look so much worse. Jesus christ he is a monster.
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Avilo banned from ESL and DreamHack
Ohh noooo competitive scene lost 5k mech terran player, we will need time to recover from this I am sure. Did he ever advance higher than 2nd round in those open cups?
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If I lived in USA I would crack his arms honestly. What an imbecile... Hope this girl wont have traumas from him. He should be banned from all competitions.
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I've seen this guy Avilo play since 2011 and I quickly realize that he got serious mental problems is a shock that no one in his family or close friends have told him to seek guidance or mental help... its sad though.
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On July 21 2020 06:18 zalem95 wrote:
I've seen this guy Avilo play since 2011 and I quickly realize that he got serious mental problems is a shock that no one in his family or close friends have told him to seek guidance or mental help... its sad though.
For the record, over the past 10+ years Avilo has on occasion flamed me on both GR.Org and on TL.Net.
On July 21 2020 02:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
Took a while, rather bloody overdue
Avilo is a borderline case. I strongly prefer how TL dealt with him on here and I'm glad it took a while for him to get banned on here. I prefer to live in a tolerant community that gives people who misbehave in minor ways several additional chances.
Avilo was given several chances.. he ran out of them... now he is gone.
Fair treatment for behaviour misconduct is never perfect ... at best it can be approximately correct. I think Dreamhack, TL , and ESL dealt with Avilo as close to correct as one can hope.
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This post is proof that being toxic makes you more popular than being a good starcraft player.
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he has some serious mental problems. Not only is he an toxic personality, but he has a history of harassment and mental breakdowns. This guy has trouble taking rejection from women and seems to lash out at them. Even before Atira, there was Maria. He thought he was in a relationship with her even though he only met her online, and when given a reality check he went on a emotional rampage.
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After reading the first 11 pages I am done. He posted so much of his kinky conversations on Discord with Atira, it's honestly unsettling.
Apparently Avilo claims that he never forced Atira to do anything that was non-consensual, and judging by the discord provided, it seems he is believable.
but 11 pages is quite enough, I have a headache now
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all I remember of him was some rant about how he went for some build and his opponent had found out he was going to do it so he basically ragequit the series.
Does ESL need to give any explanation for the ban? (actual reasons are obvious just wondering if there's any potential consequences of them not giving an official reason. I know in the US with sports leagues there's all sorts of anti trust and agreements with the players that cause issues see Ray Rice for example).
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