EPTAvilo banned from ESL and DreamHack - Page 3
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This thread is related to the harassment/abuse thread that was posted earlier last month. https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/560609-harassment-abuse-in-starcraft-2 Spreading misinformation will absolutely not be tolerated. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite victim blaming. Be very wary of what you post. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5542 Posts
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
On July 21 2020 08:06 jimminy_kriket wrote: Theres currently someone named atira signed up for the ESL NA cup. Who wants to bet that it is avilo? That's actually her: twitch.tv/atira | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27451 Posts
On July 21 2020 06:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: For the record, over the past 10+ years Avilo has on occasion flamed me on both GR.Org and on TL.Net. Avilo is a borderline case. I strongly prefer how TL dealt with him on here and I'm glad it took a while for him to get banned on here. I prefer to live in a tolerant community that gives people who misbehave in minor ways several additional chances. Avilo was given several chances.. he ran out of them... now he is gone. Fair treatment for behaviour misconduct is never perfect ... at best it can be approximately correct. I think Dreamhack, TL , and ESL dealt with Avilo as close to correct as one can hope. I do like TL’s general approach to redemption for sure. I wouldn’t consider Avilo as remotely borderline at this point though. Every time he gets a ban from one platform or another he gets actively worse. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5542 Posts
oh I didn't know she actively played. Good to know, seemed like a total avilo thing to do though. | ||
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ProtossTears
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MinixTheNerd
200 Posts
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col_jung
139 Posts
On July 21 2020 03:59 Musicus wrote: Avilo just posted a 41 page google doc eplaining his side and "clearing his name". No way I will read this, but I guess he has the right to tell his story and maybe someone is interesed. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Scs0t06_FQhf63JJDgiifXjc6EBGhlWAMaXzycPj-bc/edit Thanks for posting this. I just read Atira's post and was immediately curious if Avilo had made a reply. I believe it's important to have both sides of the story before commenting. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5542 Posts
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ProTech
United States497 Posts
I don't quite know how you would confirm the validity of the screenshots but either way, I don't really think Avilo has much to lose at this point, and as far as I know all the criminal charges were dropped in his case. I think it's about time people start looking at the other side of the story, rather than incriminating him because you simply don't like him. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27451 Posts
On July 21 2020 11:54 ProTech wrote: While I don't think Avilo is all there psychologically, that 41 page thesis about what happened does look rather compelling and makes you wonder if this was just a stunt from atira to gain followers/subs/donators. I don't quite know how you would confirm the validity of the screenshots but either way, I don't really think Avilo has much to lose at this point, and as far as I know all the criminal charges were dropped in his case. I think it's about time people start looking at the other side of the story, rather than incriminating him because you simply don't like him. Compelling how? The way he frames things, not to mention the whole 41 pages of rambling and dumping private stuff out there isn’t a defence so much as a validation of the charges. If I was some arbiter, who knew nothing of either party and Atira came in alleging harassment, I asked Avilo for his counter and he presented that document I’d just grant her the restraining order immediately. Your bar for believing accusations of harassment seems to be orders of magnitude beyond your bar for believing someone is maphacking. | ||
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
On July 21 2020 04:17 TelecoM wrote: I may grab a bag of popcorn for this 41 page Avilo explanation, this has got to be good. I wish someone would read it / summarize it in a video in a humorous way instead. =P | ||
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mikedupp
233 Posts
On July 21 2020 11:54 ProTech wrote: While I don't think Avilo is all there psychologically, that 41 page thesis about what happened does look rather compelling and makes you wonder if this was just a stunt from atira to gain followers/subs/donators. I don't quite know how you would confirm the validity of the screenshots but either way, I don't really think Avilo has much to lose at this point, and as far as I know all the criminal charges were dropped in his case. I think it's about time people start looking at the other side of the story, rather than incriminating him because you simply don't like him. she gets like 80-150 viewers before and after this madness. why don't you look up her viewer statistics before making this incredibly ignorant post. the only part of the story I care about is atira saying "no" and "stop". | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5080 Posts
Doctor avilo telling people to stop taking their medication because Doctor avilo's deviant needs are supreme. Those kinds of medicines can have seriously bad effects when not taken the way a doctor instructs you to take them, which includes just stopping out of nowhere because deeply troubled e-guy tells you to. (I don't know if atira did stop taking her PRESCRIPTION MEDICINE PRESCRIBED BY A REAL DOCTOR, I hope she didn't unless at a real doctor's direction.) | ||
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I wasbanned fromthis
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
On July 21 2020 12:13 Wombat_NI wrote: Compelling how? The way he frames things, not to mention the whole 41 pages of rambling and dumping private stuff out there isn’t a defence so much as a validation of the charges. If I was some arbiter, who knew nothing of either party and Atira came in alleging harassment, I asked Avilo for his counter and he presented that document I’d just grant her the restraining order immediately. Your bar for believing accusations of harassment seems to be orders of magnitude beyond your bar for believing someone is maphacking. Not to mention, the guy's got a track record. Like ilikeredheads was saying before Atira was Maria (though not in exactly the same way). I watched 3 hours and 40 minutes as Destiny tried to talk him down. Three hours and forty minutes that I will never get back on his 'proofs' (mostly claims that he had them, but wouldn't show) and cyclical argumentation back then. In that case, he was utilizing as evidence some reddit account that was supposed to be Maria's... she didn't even use reddit. He also had made up screenshots (or at least screenshots of things she never said- at best he was trolled by someone pretending to be Maria. At worst he faked them himself.) Point is- he's had very bad 'evidence' in the past. In that case, Maria asked many times for him to stop- the guy can't take no for an answer. Kept claiming she was being manipulated by others (that paranoid, conspiratorial mindset). As far as I can tell, incapable of admitting fault for any length of time (at best a temporary admittance, loop back into more accusations of conspiracy and his own victim hood.) He's not in a good state and writing a 40 pages is pretty good evidence that he's not in a good state. | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
But he cleary has mental problems. I hope he gets professional help. In a way he reminds me of Trump. An entertainer unable to see his own mental problems, instead always blaiming someone else. | ||
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RandomPlayer416
84 Posts
This girl saying her mental health was deteriorating?? I call BS on that. Blocking someone takes literally 1 second on any platform. The fact she couldnt find a way to get this parasite out of her life is on her 100%. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18759 Posts
On July 21 2020 14:15 RandomPlayer416 wrote: Okay I'm not sticking up for Avilo, he clearly has issues and his idea of a relationship between 2 people is pretty wacked out. But this girl is to blame as well. If you look at the screen shots Avilo posted, clearly she was playing with him or leading him on. Maybe not to a regular person but to someone as weird as Avilo, he would cling to the things she says and cherish the thought of fooling around with a woman. This girl saying her mental health was deteriorating?? I call BS on that. Blocking someone takes literally 1 second on any platform. The fact she couldnt find a way to get this parasite out of her life is on her 100%. These kinds of drama you usually find the truth in between both. Pretty sure Atira lied about things (I only looked at a few screenshots but this is far from being a total victim) but this doesn't excuse Avilo's behaviour. | ||
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h20Fanatic
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TelecoM
United States10864 Posts
On July 21 2020 14:02 MockHamill wrote: In a way he reminds me of Trump. /thread | ||
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