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This thread is related to the harassment/abuse thread that was posted earlier last month.

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/560609-harassment-abuse-in-starcraft-2

Spreading misinformation will absolutely not be tolerated. Expect harsh mod actions if you try to incite victim blaming. Be very wary of what you post.
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States710 Posts
July 23 2020 16:03 GMT
#181
Boy goes after girl. Girl rejects.
Boy goes after girl. Girl rejects.
Boy goes after girl. Girl rejects.
...
Boy goes after girl. Girl rejects.

Eventually, boy needs to re-evaluate and just find someone else already.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
July 23 2020 16:05 GMT
#182
I think you people waste too much time in this drama and Avilo loves it, ban is done. Cool, move on pls
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 23 2020 16:20 GMT
#183
On July 23 2020 06:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2020 19:43 supressionofinfo wrote:
Looks like this entire thread and many other places are suppressing the information for people to make a valid opinion. avilo released a statement that for some reason is not being discussed here, and a few users were banned for.



User was banned for this post.

TL is not nuking stuff that clearly sides with Avilo. They are leaving it visible. If people want to sink all kinds of time into this issue.. this TL thread is a solid resource. i do not know if the TL thread provides an exhaustive, comprehensive resource though. I'm too lazy to spend the 100+ hours it would take to determine if this thread "covers everything".

On GR.Org Avilo used lots of Alts. What ended up happening was people created Alts of their own to make it look like it was an Avilo Alt. This makes it very difficult to determine exactly what is going on with Avilo during his time playing C&C.

Avilo attracts people who like to take advantage of those with checkered track records.


sorry if this is a bit random, but what is GR.org?
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
July 23 2020 18:07 GMT
#184
After reading Avilo's manifesto, it corroborates Atira's side of the story to me. His consensual "proofs" are nothing more than him being creepy while she's either giving him a one-word response or trying to change the subject. Most of the images are just avilo spamming about his horniness while she responded "yes" to all his question and sending an emoji in others. The text send to receive ratio is heavily skewed towards avilo's side. Take this image for example, imgur.com. This to me isn't proof, this reads like someone who is over it and is just agreeing with Avilo so that he would drop the topic because they are so mentally done. Atira to me reads like someone who got stuck in a situation and doesn't know how to get out so she just went along with it.
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
July 23 2020 18:29 GMT
#185
On July 24 2020 03:07 phodacbiet wrote:
After reading Avilo's manifesto, it corroborates Atira's side of the story to me. His consensual "proofs" are nothing more than him being creepy while she's either giving him a one-word response or trying to change the subject. Most of the images are just avilo spamming about his horniness while she responded "yes" to all his question and sending an emoji in others. The text send to receive ratio is heavily skewed towards avilo's side. Take this image for example, imgur.com. This to me isn't proof, this reads like someone who is over it and is just agreeing with Avilo so that he would drop the topic because they are so mentally done. Atira to me reads like someone who got stuck in a situation and doesn't know how to get out so she just went along with it.

I agree. He also proves that he's been recording and screenshotting seemingly every single conversation with both Atira and Maria, even back when there were no problems yet.
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WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-23 18:57:50
July 23 2020 18:52 GMT
#186
On July 24 2020 03:29 AlgeriaT wrote:
I agree. He also proves that he's been recording and screenshotting seemingly every single conversation with both Atira and Maria, even back when there were no problems yet.


Or maybe he scrolled up in the logs. I don't know where they chat, but I can go back for years in all instant messaging services I use.

The biggest problem with his logs are how easily they are edited, and that they could even be outright fabrications. It's not enough for him to prove she's been in on it all along or from the start, because they also don't provide context. If they're real, there's a possibility he nagged her to write those things all day and she just caved in and did so to get rid of him.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23441 Posts
July 23 2020 18:55 GMT
#187
On July 24 2020 03:52 WaesumNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2020 03:29 AlgeriaT wrote:
I agree. He also proves that he's been recording and screenshotting seemingly every single conversation with both Atira and Maria, even back when there were no problems yet.


Or maybe he scrolled up in the logs. I don't know where they chat, but I can go back for years in all instant messaging services I use.

Most of the screenshots say "today" or "yesterday" indicating they were taken shortly after they were sent/received.
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway745 Posts
July 23 2020 18:59 GMT
#188
Wasn't some of them snapchats photos photographed by another phone?
I can understand some of the logs are being kept, but not snapchats.
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 23 2020 20:50 GMT
#189
On July 24 2020 03:59 Timebon3s wrote:
Wasn't some of them snapchats photos photographed by another phone?
I can understand some of the logs are being kept, but not snapchats.



Yeah he held up his cellphone to the computer and another cell phone screen to record.

He held it up to his stream camera on one of his final twitch streams before he was banned.

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16892 Posts
July 23 2020 22:06 GMT
#190
On July 24 2020 01:20 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2020 06:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On July 22 2020 19:43 supressionofinfo wrote:
Looks like this entire thread and many other places are suppressing the information for people to make a valid opinion. avilo released a statement that for some reason is not being discussed here, and a few users were banned for.

https://twitter.com/avilosc2/status/1285283192782675971

User was banned for this post.

TL is not nuking stuff that clearly sides with Avilo. They are leaving it visible. If people want to sink all kinds of time into this issue.. this TL thread is a solid resource. i do not know if the TL thread provides an exhaustive, comprehensive resource though. I'm too lazy to spend the 100+ hours it would take to determine if this thread "covers everything".

On GR.Org Avilo used lots of Alts. What ended up happening was people created Alts of their own to make it look like it was an Avilo Alt. This makes it very difficult to determine exactly what is going on with Avilo during his time playing C&C.

Avilo attracts people who like to take advantage of those with checkered track records.


sorry if this is a bit random, but what is GR.org?

GameReplays.org

loosely speaking ... its sorta the TL.net of the C&C franchise.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
July 23 2020 22:28 GMT
#191
On July 24 2020 07:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2020 01:20 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On July 23 2020 06:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On July 22 2020 19:43 supressionofinfo wrote:
Looks like this entire thread and many other places are suppressing the information for people to make a valid opinion. avilo released a statement that for some reason is not being discussed here, and a few users were banned for.

https://twitter.com/avilosc2/status/1285283192782675971

User was banned for this post.

TL is not nuking stuff that clearly sides with Avilo. They are leaving it visible. If people want to sink all kinds of time into this issue.. this TL thread is a solid resource. i do not know if the TL thread provides an exhaustive, comprehensive resource though. I'm too lazy to spend the 100+ hours it would take to determine if this thread "covers everything".

On GR.Org Avilo used lots of Alts. What ended up happening was people created Alts of their own to make it look like it was an Avilo Alt. This makes it very difficult to determine exactly what is going on with Avilo during his time playing C&C.

Avilo attracts people who like to take advantage of those with checkered track records.


sorry if this is a bit random, but what is GR.org?

GameReplays.org

loosely speaking ... its sorta the TL.net of the C&C franchise.

C&C?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 23 2020 22:31 GMT
#192
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16892 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-23 23:04:53
July 23 2020 23:02 GMT
#193
Gina Carano is prolly half the reason i bought Red Alert 3.

" ...while sitting on my yacht surrounded by beautiful women.. sometimes i think about what it might be like to actually play video games... "
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
mikedupp
Profile Joined May 2020
233 Posts
July 24 2020 00:02 GMT
#194
Avilo spamming esl and apollo on twitter right now
i wonder if his family is oblivious to his behavior
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1250 Posts
July 24 2020 00:05 GMT
#195
On July 24 2020 07:31 JimmiC wrote:
I'm guessing Command and Conquer. The TS (Tiberian Sun) online is where I met Ret long long ago and we played on the top two competitive clans. Way way back in the day. After that he went onto Broodwar and I went onto restaurant work and too much booze!

Off topic, but what were the top two competitive clans back in the day?
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 24 2020 00:23 GMT
#196
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway745 Posts
July 24 2020 05:19 GMT
#197
On July 24 2020 08:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Gina Carano is prolly half the reason i bought Red Alert 3.

" ...while sitting on my yacht surrounded by beautiful women.. sometimes i think about what it might be like to actually play video games... "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIoTBi9ydkw

Hahaha that is the best trailer I have ever seen :D
Based on a true story lol
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
July 24 2020 06:28 GMT
#198
On July 24 2020 07:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2020 01:20 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On July 23 2020 06:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On July 22 2020 19:43 supressionofinfo wrote:
Looks like this entire thread and many other places are suppressing the information for people to make a valid opinion. avilo released a statement that for some reason is not being discussed here, and a few users were banned for.

https://twitter.com/avilosc2/status/1285283192782675971

User was banned for this post.

TL is not nuking stuff that clearly sides with Avilo. They are leaving it visible. If people want to sink all kinds of time into this issue.. this TL thread is a solid resource. i do not know if the TL thread provides an exhaustive, comprehensive resource though. I'm too lazy to spend the 100+ hours it would take to determine if this thread "covers everything".

On GR.Org Avilo used lots of Alts. What ended up happening was people created Alts of their own to make it look like it was an Avilo Alt. This makes it very difficult to determine exactly what is going on with Avilo during his time playing C&C.

Avilo attracts people who like to take advantage of those with checkered track records.


sorry if this is a bit random, but what is GR.org?

GameReplays.org

loosely speaking ... its sorta the TL.net of the C&C franchise.


Also for the much less popular yet much more fun LOTR Battle for Middle Earth franchise. A lot of good times on that game and GR.org.
sypsyp
Profile Joined July 2020
6 Posts
July 24 2020 08:36 GMT
#199
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Stetkaer
Profile Joined June 2013
Denmark23 Posts
July 27 2020 12:45 GMT
#200
Please bear with and understand Avilo.

There are far worth things going on in the world.
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