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Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
April 06 2020 17:09 GMT
#52
All the best players we have are more or less evenly spread out across the groups, this might make for a very good RO16
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 06 2020 17:11 GMT
#53
Hurricane T1

Dafuq
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Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
April 06 2020 17:13 GMT
#54
On April 06 2020 16:58 Durnuu wrote:
Group of death is definitely B

Isnt it pretty clear who will go through here? Come we gotta be honest man.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-06 17:17:52
April 06 2020 17:17 GMT
#55
On April 07 2020 02:11 KalWarkov wrote:
Hurricane T1

Dafuq

He reached a GSL semi last year. Even with their system having a point decay, that result is just barely enough to carry him to a higher tier.
On April 07 2020 00:07 MarianoSC2 wrote:
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On April 06 2020 23:35 Elentos wrote:
On April 06 2020 23:31 NinjaNight wrote:
On April 06 2020 16:35 Elentos wrote:
If there is a group of death it's definitely not B.


? Rogue and Innovation are probably the 2 strongest players in the tournament in the same group

And Scarlett and TOP are two of the weakest (TOP easily the weakest player in Code S in years), if Inno and Rogue do their homework the threat to them is non-existent. Hence it's not a group of death.

Not in the way I understand the term anyway.


Yeah... I mean for me the Group of death is the one with the strongest players. And the strongest player in this round is Rogue hands down. And he has Inno in his group who is in the next category of top players of this round with likes of Zest, Cure, sOs maybe. So that alone might indicate that this group is the strongest.

But you are right in a regard that it has 2 clear favorites, so it can be a group of death only to those who value Scarlett extremely high and give her a realistic chance of progressing to the next stage.

I actually wouldn't necessarily be surprised if Rogue struggles. He's taken it easy after big wins in the past (he has no pressure to perform in any tournament until next year after winning Katowice). But at the end of the day the group is primarily a matter of the favorites doing their homework. And so I can't ever consider that a group of death.
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seanranklin
Profile Joined February 2020
9 Posts
April 06 2020 17:17 GMT
#56
On April 07 2020 00:09 dysenterymd wrote:
Why do people view TOP as a uniquely weak player? Does anyone have more info on his current form? Feels like he's done about as little as, say, DRG recently, not that I expect either to achieve anything.

I also think Scarlett has some upset potential. ZvZ is ZvZ and if Rogue is still in his post championship malaise, she could maybe eke out a win there, and despite having alright results Inno has looked vulnerable in TvZ. I still think she'll lose, but she is a famously high variance player and could disrupt things.



7months ago TOP woke up blind and in pain. He had a corneal disease or infection. I forgot the name of the condition he said on his stream.

So for 7 months he was unable to play starcraft and watch. He returned 2-3weeks ago when his symptoms and pain lessened after treatment. TOP only competed in the gsl qualifier because of fan support. It's stunning he qualified given all that has happened to him in the past 7 months.

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Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
April 06 2020 17:36 GMT
#57
TOP Rogue Scarlett and INnoVation wow! Fun group.
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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-06 18:25:41
April 06 2020 18:23 GMT
#58
I think we do kind of have the definition for death group, liquipedia.net
In this case, it'll be a death group when four tier1&2 players are in the same group, but not group B, definitely not.
And if you wanna define group of death by the hardness to prodict, it's group D
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Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
April 06 2020 20:10 GMT
#59
On April 07 2020 03:23 Howard_Kao wrote:
I think we do kind of have the definition for death group, liquipedia.net
In this case, it'll be a death group when four tier1&2 players are in the same group, but not group B, definitely not.
And if you wanna define group of death by the hardness to prodict, it's group D

I did not know about that page. Glad to become informed.

The group of death for GSL is, by design, not possible under normal circumstances before the group nominations for round of 16.
Using GSL's internal point system to determine group distribution and levelling the field is a good thing IMO.
Example of unusual circumstances are if a player gets way better fast (Patience for a brief period playing evenly vs Maru et al in top form), a new player enters the field (Reynor being allowed to play in WCS) or an early exit in previous GSL (Maru got knocked out by Zest in Code A single elimination bo5).

In the ro16 we've had both PartinG, and later Dark trying to get tough groups on purpose. The 4 SKT group with Dark, soO, Classic and, I think, INnoVation was great. PartinG's all protoss group was amazing. Group of death gives great games, but the later parts of the tournament loses some flair.
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Wogrim
Profile Joined August 2019
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-06 20:41:59
April 06 2020 20:39 GMT
#60
I'd like to think those tier 4 players have a chance to make it out of their groups, but oh will it be tough.

They seeded it pretty well to avoid having any groups of death. I really enjoy the ones where the players pick who is in their group; hope they're still doing that in round of 16.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
April 07 2020 04:43 GMT
#61
I love the guy but if TOP wins one map in Group B the person who loses to him should just retire then and there
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-07 04:59:58
April 07 2020 04:57 GMT
#62
On April 07 2020 13:43 showstealer1829 wrote:
I love the guy but if TOP wins one map in Group B the person who loses to him should just retire then and there


It will be surprised more if Rogue loses to him, since Rogue did lost unexpectedly to Scarlett years ago. Dare to ask him to retire?
Why not think for another possibility that TOP might have improved a lot over the years?
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
April 07 2020 05:16 GMT
#63
All my 2012 zenex boys have rode off into the sunset so i'll be here on the 15th to support freaking TOP. Last oGs man standing? Or is HerO semi-active now?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 07 2020 05:30 GMT
#64
On April 07 2020 13:57 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 13:43 showstealer1829 wrote:
I love the guy but if TOP wins one map in Group B the person who loses to him should just retire then and there

Why not think for another possibility that TOP might have improved a lot over the years?

Didn't TOP literally just recently come back? He had to take a long time of because of eye problems/surgery I think
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 07 2020 06:23 GMT
#65
On April 07 2020 14:30 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 13:57 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 07 2020 13:43 showstealer1829 wrote:
I love the guy but if TOP wins one map in Group B the person who loses to him should just retire then and there

Why not think for another possibility that TOP might have improved a lot over the years?

Didn't TOP literally just recently come back? He had to take a long time of because of eye problems/surgery I think

Yeah, that was mentioned in this thread somewhere. Before that he was actually participating in most GSL / ST qualifiers and was allways elliminatet realy early. His qualifying run now was probably the best streak of upsets, we ll get all year.
And non of it was broadcasted
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MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
April 07 2020 06:35 GMT
#66
yeah a lot of talent left since last year.... herO, Classic, Fantasy, Gumiho.....
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
April 07 2020 06:44 GMT
#67
On April 07 2020 15:35 MinixTheNerd wrote:
yeah a lot of talent left since last year.... herO, Classic, Fantasy, Gumiho.....

With GuMiho in the military and Bbyong banned for match fixing, who will be the big researcher and tester of Terran builds? Is it Maru? He played a major role in changing the Terran meta 2 times in a year, but that isn't really as unorthodox as Mech vs Protoss when immortals still had the hardened shield that wouldn't allow more than 10 damage at a time.
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Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
April 07 2020 06:49 GMT
#68
On April 07 2020 05:39 Wogrim wrote:
I'd like to think those tier 4 players have a chance to make it out of their groups, but oh will it be tough.

They seeded it pretty well to avoid having any groups of death. I really enjoy the ones where the players pick who is in their group; hope they're still doing that in round of 16.

I think the internal point system is something they always have for the first round(ro32 in the past and ro28 now), and group nomination is mentioned in the post so we definitely still have that
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
April 09 2020 03:36 GMT
#69
So why GSLST have no EPT?
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33343 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-09 03:40:58
April 09 2020 03:40 GMT
#70
On April 07 2020 15:49 Howard_Kao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 05:39 Wogrim wrote:
I'd like to think those tier 4 players have a chance to make it out of their groups, but oh will it be tough.

They seeded it pretty well to avoid having any groups of death. I really enjoy the ones where the players pick who is in their group; hope they're still doing that in round of 16.

I think the internal point system is something they always have for the first round(ro32 in the past and ro28 now), and group nomination is mentioned in the post so we definitely still have that


Yes, they've always used their internal point system (which they've had since 2011) for GSL-specific seeding (which is why foreigners who participate for the first time always get tier 4 status and tossed into a tough group).
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-18 02:31:35
April 18 2020 02:30 GMT
#71
On April 07 2020 14:16 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
All my 2012 zenex boys have rode off into the sunset so i'll be here on the 15th to support freaking TOP. Last oGs man standing? Or is HerO semi-active now?


We still have a MVP guy with Super/Vampire!
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