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Poopi
France12946 Posts
On January 16 2020 09:16 Vindicare605 wrote: Who the hell is Denver?! He is the best french zerg atm, was the sub for France at Nation Wars. Apparently he went full time relatively recently so that might explain his jump from sub top EU to probably top EU soon. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On January 17 2020 01:27 tigon_ridge wrote: Players all have ups and downs. On Serral's worst days, mid-tier GSLers definitely have a decent chance. On Serral's best, they still have a small chance. You people all need to understand that everything is probabilistic. In table tennis, the #1 ranked player is rated far higher than the #2 player, yet he still sometimes struggles against players ranked #10-ish. It's no different in chess, and no different in SC2. It's very possible that Cure is having an upsurge in his ability, also. Nothing should be counted out. I do understand it perfectly and I never take things for granted. By the way, "decent chance"? According to Aligulac, Dream is the #16 best korean player and he would have a 18% to beat Serral in a bo3, not taking into consideration KR to EU ping disadvantage. Those are the hopes a "mid tier" korean has against Serral, it seems very different from what BerserkSword was suggesting. | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On January 17 2020 01:57 tigon_ridge wrote: I don't think he was necessarily implying that Serral is only slightly stronger than a mid-level GSLer. To me occasional "upsets" should be expected. I wouldn't be shocked to see Serral lose to anybody. Dark lost 1-3 to Elazer, and Maru couldn't make it out of groupstage in more tournaments than one; sooo yea nothing should surprise anyone anymore. Elazer beating Dark seemed more surprising than it should have considering Dark's ZvZ at the time and their match history; that was not a real upset. According to Berserk, "strong mid tier"(which Cure is not, online he is one of the best) koreans playing on 300 ping are to be expected to have very hard fought series against Serral. | ||
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tigon_ridge
482 Posts
If you examine the games between Serral and Cure, Serral was even-ish in the 3rd game until he uncharacteristically got overconfident attacking off creep. I think overconfidence from the 2-0 lead and the ping advantage was a factor. Roach/Rav all-in is always a dice roll, and either wins, or fails and then zerg is done for. In all the 3 games Serral won, he did it seemingly effortlessly, as he was dominating from beginning to end. From this perspective, it actually wasn't so close. | ||
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SpaceBoar
52 Posts
On January 17 2020 02:39 tigon_ridge wrote: For all we know Dark's ZvZ may still suck (relatively), and he may have had just a lucky run against Reynor. If you examine the games between Serral and Cure, Serral was even-ish in the 3rd game until he uncharacteristically got overconfident attacking off creep. I think overconfidence from the 2-0 lead and the ping advantage was a factor. Roach/Rav all-in is always a dice roll, and either wins, or fails and then zerg is done for. In all the 3 games Serral won, he did it seemingly effortlessly, as he was dominating from beginning to end. From this perspective, it actually wasn't so close. In G3 Serral was also supply blocked multiple times and floating money. Uncharacteristic by him but also not sure if it is meaningful, probably wanted to finish the series too quickly and messed up a lot of things. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27038 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7262 Posts
On January 17 2020 02:39 tigon_ridge wrote: For all we know Dark's ZvZ may still suck (relatively), and he may have had just a lucky run against Reynor. If you examine the games between Serral and Cure, Serral was even-ish in the 3rd game until he uncharacteristically got overconfident attacking off creep. I think overconfidence from the 2-0 lead and the ping advantage was a factor. Roach/Rav all-in is always a dice roll, and either wins, or fails and then zerg is done for. In all the 3 games Serral won, he did it seemingly effortlessly, as he was dominating from beginning to end. From this perspective, it actually wasn't so close. And Serral always struggles at the beginning of a year (historically proven I guess) For all we know it might be because Finnland doesn't have much daylight these days | ||
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